Tokah
2 pm Dusk
2:40 pm Dawn


If the game gets going before Cassy comes back, we'll play it to the end. If it hasn't yet, we'll quietly get back to our Harry Pottering and whatnot in peace.

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Standard no-reveal 9er Rules

Good Roles:

Seer - Each night receives a vision of a target player as 'wolf' or 'not wolf.' The seer receives a vision on Night 0 of one randomly chosen player that is 'not wolf.' Thereafter, the seer chooses which player to view.

Priest - Each night receives a vision of a target deceased player. The vision tells the priest that deceased player's exact role. The priest does not receive any vision on Night 0. Thereafter, the priest chooses one deceased player to view.

Hunter - If only two players remain in the game and the hunter is one of those players, then the good team wins even if the other player is a werewolf.

3 Villagers - Ordinary villagers with no special powers.


Evil Roles:

2 Werewolves - The werewolves know each other's identity, and may private message/chat without restriction. Each night the wolves choose one target player to kill. There is no kill on Night 0.

Sorcerer - Each night receives a vision of a target player as 'seer' or 'not seer.' The sorcerer receives a vision on Night 0 of one randomly chosen player that is 'not seer.' Thereafter, the sorcerer chooses which player to view. The sorcerer wins if the wolves win, but does not count as a werewolf for parity purposes (see below).
L Squared
In?

I may back out.
I'm feeling it as well. In.
Zed TwoEggs
What's the murphy's law part mean? I'm under the impression it's a standard 9'er and if so I'll play.
Zed TwoEggs

ljtrigirl wrote:

In?

I may back out.
I thought this said "black" out and was like.. okie seems legit.
Tokah

zd00 wrote:

What's the murphy's law part mean? I'm under the impression it's a standard 9'er and if so I'll play.


Ah, that part means that just about the time the game fills and really gets interesting, Cassy will come back up.
Tokah
Roster

1. LJ
2. SerWave
3. Zd00 - killed n1
4. Murph - killed n2
5. Silver - killed D2
6. Smug - killed D3
7. Felice - killed n3
8. Van - killed D1
9. Dake
I suppose I should play, huh?

"A WW game gives a wise person a place to think and a fool something to stick into their time"
Silver
count me in
Dave ??arski-Riley
Yeah.
Felice AKA Maria
Some of my favourite people are here..... kiss I may still be a bit distracted with life but I'd like to play.

How about Bobtally or Modkiwi?
Felice AKA Maria
Has anyone informed Dake that there's a 9er happening? whistle

Felice Si wrote:

Has anyone informed Dake that there's a 9er happening? whistle


Friends come and go, but enemies accumulate.
Felice AKA Maria

dbmurph22 wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

Has anyone informed Dake that there's a 9er happening? whistle


Friends come and go, but enemies accumulate.


I definitely put Dake on the 'friend' side of that equation.
Tokah

Felice Si wrote:

Some of my favourite people are here..... kiss I may still be a bit distracted with life but I'd like to play.

How about Bobtally or Modkiwi?


Bobtally might make an appearance.
mfl134
Youtube Video

(possible out of context spoilers if you haven't seen the movie)
Karafruit Villager-Thrower

TFang wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

Some of my favourite people are here..... kiss I may still be a bit distracted with life but I'd like to play.

How about Bobtally or Modkiwi?


Bobtally might make an appearance.

Let me know if you want modkiwi
Tokah
Thanks, Kara. =)
Alabaster
Ye
Dake Jimson
okay. i will do it.
Felice AKA Maria

Dake wrote:

okay. i will do it.


We were saving that #9 spot for you.
Dake Jimson
oh cassy crashed again? maybe we need to put her down...
Tokah
We are full. I've bugged a tally person, and I'm GMing roles now. So don't talk anymore.

As per my usual habit, I want placeholder orders early from roles like wolves, sorcs, seers, etc - anyone who should be using their power every night. They are part of my "are you actively playing" calculation, so GM me those when you can.

For the wolves, I'll send a a confirmation of receipt back to both of you so you'll both know who the nightkill is set to at any given time. When it comes down to it, though, I'm using the last legitimately timestamped order in my GM box.

I figured we'd use ModKiwi and let Bob focus on his backup Cassy experimentation. The only thing you should need to remember is that she doesn't take to mispellings the way Bob/Cassy tallies do. I'll look out for end-of-day mistakes to fix before posting dusk results, but it would be even better if you didn't make them. I'm going to be assuming that you checked to make sure your vote took earlier in the day, so anything before LC is on you to make sure it is correct.
Kiwi's ModBot
Seating Order (nicknames):
1. zd00 (zd)
2. dbmurph22 (dbmurph, murph)
3. Dake
4. SerWave (ser)
5. Smugvid (smug)
6. Felice Si (felice)
7. Vanderscamp (van, vand, vanders)
8. silverbonds (silver)
9. ljtrigirl (lj)
Felice AKA Maria
signup
Tokah
{ljtrigirl} signup
{SerWave} signup
{zd00} signup
{dbmurph22} signup
{silverbonds} signup
{Smugvid} signup
{Felice Si} signup
{Vanderscamp} signup
{Dake} signup
Karafruit Villager-Thrower
[nickname ljtrigirl as lj][nickname zd00 as zd][nickname dbmurph22 as dbmurph][nickname dbmurph as db][nickname silverbonds as silver][nickname Smugvid as smug][nickname Felice Si as Felice][nickname Vanderscamp as Vanders]

someday I'll make nicknames persist modkiwi-wide. And match misspellings and such.

That day has not yet happened.
Karafruit Villager-Thrower
start
Tokah

Kiwi13cubed wrote:

[nickname ljtrigirl as lj][nickname zd00 as zd][nickname dbmurph22 as dbmurph][nickname dbmurph as db][nickname silverbonds as silver][nickname Smugvid as smug][nickname Felice Si as Felice][nickname Vanderscamp as Vanders]

someday I'll make nicknames persist modkiwi-wide. And match misspellings and such.

That day has not yet happened.


I forgot nicknames were a thing. I'm also entertained by my ability to de-nightfall people's votes.
Tokah
dawn

Dusk is 2pm Friday (tomorrow).
Tokah
Oh, and I guess you may post, too.
[vote dbmurph22]
[vote silverbonds]
[vote dake]


I don't believe I've played with any of you.
Felice AKA Maria
I viewed Dake and he's a wolf. [vote Dake]

SerWave wrote:

[vote dbmurph22]
[vote silverbonds]
[vote dake]


I don't believe I've played with any of you.


forgot to say "hi" so...Hi!
Karafruit Villager-Thrower
For some reason modkiwi seems to still have this marked as being in signups and not started.

I'll try to get this figured out.
L Squared
vote murph

I missed you!
Karafruit Villager-Thrower

ljtrigirl wrote:

vote murph

I missed you!

ninja nickname dbmurph22 as murph ninja
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Dake - 2 - SerWave (3), Felice Si (4)
dbmurph22 - 0 - SerWave (1)
silverbonds - 0 - SerWave (2)
Not voting: Dake, Smugvid, Vanderscamp, dbmurph22, ljtrigirl, silverbonds, zd00

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List of tallies

Current Claims:
zd00 - (no claim)
dbmurph22 - (no claim)
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - (no claim)
Felice Si - (no claim)
Vanderscamp - (no claim)
silverbonds - (no claim)
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Tokah

Kiwi13cubed wrote:

For some reason modkiwi seems to still have this marked as being in signups and not started.

I'll try to get this figured out.


start?
Karafruit Villager-Thrower

Kiwi13cubed wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

vote murph

I missed you!

ninja nickname dbmurph22 as murph ninja

{ljtrigirl} vote murph
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Dake - 2 - SerWave (3), Felice Si (4)
dbmurph22 - 1 - SerWave (1) , ljtrigirl (5)
silverbonds - 0 - SerWave (2)
Not voting: Dake, Smugvid, Vanderscamp, dbmurph22, silverbonds, zd00

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Current Claims:
zd00 - (no claim)
dbmurph22 - (no claim)
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - (no claim)
Felice Si - (no claim)
Vanderscamp - (no claim)
silverbonds - (no claim)
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Tokah

modkiwi wrote:

Vote Tally:
Dake - 2 - SerWave (3), Felice Si (4)
dbmurph22 - 0 - SerWave (1)
silverbonds - 0 - SerWave (2)
Not voting: Dake, Smugvid, Vanderscamp, dbmurph22, ljtrigirl, silverbonds, zd00

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Current Claims:
zd00 - (no claim)
dbmurph22 - (no claim)
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - (no claim)
Felice Si - (no claim)
Vanderscamp - (no claim)
silverbonds - (no claim)
ljtrigirl - (no claim)


Clearly she was in the powder room.
Tokah
Oh, and you guys should note that if you don't run the game to too many pages, there is a sweet ISO tool accessed by clicking people's names in the tally!
I missed you too, LJ. Nice to meet you SerWave.

How does one play this game, again?
Zed TwoEggs

dbmurph22 wrote:

I missed you too, LJ. Nice to meet you SerWave.

How does one play this game, again?
I thought I was supposed to claim but then I decided I'd say I was going to claim later in D1 and then I decided I wouldn't mention it at all because it's weird.
Felice AKA Maria

zd00 wrote:

dbmurph22 wrote:

I missed you too, LJ. Nice to meet you SerWave.

How does one play this game, again?
I thought I was supposed to claim but then I decided I'd say I was going to claim later in D1 and then I decided I wouldn't mention it at all because it's weird.


I'm glad you decided not to mention it.
Tokah
nickname Vanderscamp as Van
Dave ??arski-Riley
I'm the best.
Silver
Alright alright alright

How's everyone doing? Anyone going through cassy withdrawals yet?
Silver
vote Smugvid My nemesis!
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Dake - 2 - SerWave (3), Felice Si (4)
dbmurph22 - 1 - SerWave (1) , ljtrigirl (5)
Smugvid - 1 - silverbonds (6)
silverbonds - 0 - SerWave (2)
Not voting: Dake, Smugvid, Vanderscamp, dbmurph22, zd00

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Current Claims:
zd00 - (no claim)
dbmurph22 - (no claim)
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - (no claim)
Felice Si - (no claim)
Vanderscamp - (no claim)
silverbonds - (no claim)
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Felice AKA Maria
Silver! Everything ok there after Matthew? Do we have any WW'ers in the Carolinas?
Alabaster
FIRST
Alabaster
[vote Dake]
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Dake - 3 - SerWave (3), Felice Si (4), Vanderscamp (7)
dbmurph22 - 1 - SerWave (1) , ljtrigirl (5)
Smugvid - 1 - silverbonds (6)
silverbonds - 0 - SerWave (2)
Not voting: Dake, Smugvid, dbmurph22, zd00

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Current Claims:
zd00 - (no claim)
dbmurph22 - (no claim)
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - (no claim)
Felice Si - (no claim)
Vanderscamp - (no claim)
silverbonds - (no claim)
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Silver

Felice Si wrote:

Silver! Everything ok there after Matthew? Do we have any WW'ers in the Carolinas?


I'm in Tampa! We had quite a few visitors staying with relatives and such in the city, but my power didn't even flicker. Hermine was more destructive. I have a few friends in St. Augustine who reported a few downed trees and run of the mill wind damage but nothing serious.
Dave ??arski-Riley
I'm going to [vote zd] to prove that I'm not a Wolf, because if I were a Wolf, I would never deliberately put myself on his radar.
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Dake - 3 - SerWave (3), Felice Si (4), Vanderscamp (7)
dbmurph22 - 1 - SerWave (1) , ljtrigirl (5)
Smugvid - 1 - silverbonds (6)
zd00 - 1 - Smugvid (8)
silverbonds - 0 - SerWave (2)
Not voting: Dake, dbmurph22, zd00

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Current Claims:
zd00 - (no claim)
dbmurph22 - (no claim)
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - (no claim)
Felice Si - (no claim)
Vanderscamp - (no claim)
silverbonds - (no claim)
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Dave ??arski-Riley
So, now I'm clear of being a Wolf, I think the Seer should view Dake and we should have close to a math win as long as none of me, Dake, the Seer or the Seer's N0 die. If Dake is the N0 or the Seer, I think we've probably lost.
Zed TwoEggs

Smugvid wrote:

I'm going to [vote zd] to prove that I'm not a Wolf, because if I were a Wolf, I would never deliberately put myself on his radar.
I thought to preemptively put you on my radar, but then I thought to just watch. In practice I'm more of an odd "no action leads to action" thought process sorts of people. I'm grateful for those who do things.
Dake Jimson
[vote vand]
Felice AKA Maria
I have to say, those last two posts from Smug are the most suspicious looking things I'm seeing. They sound like gymnastics. Overcompensating. Are you the sorc Smuggly bear?
vote smug
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Dake - 2 - SerWave (3), Felice Si (4) , Vanderscamp (7)
Smugvid - 2 - silverbonds (6), Felice Si (9)
dbmurph22 - 1 - SerWave (1) , ljtrigirl (5)
zd00 - 1 - Smugvid (8)
silverbonds - 0 - SerWave (2)
Not voting: Dake, dbmurph22, zd00

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Current Claims:
zd00 - (no claim)
dbmurph22 - (no claim)
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - (no claim)
Felice Si - (no claim)
Vanderscamp - (no claim)
silverbonds - (no claim)
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Felice AKA Maria
Looks like modkiwi hasn't woken up from her beauty sleep. Can someone give her a ring?
Felice AKA Maria
Ah, it worked for mine but not Dake's vote. It must be the spelling. I think the abbreviations you can use are vanders or van.
Dake Jimson
felice is good.

[vote vanders]

does that work? are the brackets the problem?

vote vanders
Felice AKA Maria
FYI Between 2 and 4 today I will have big trucks at my house doing a pressure flush and vacuum because my sewer main drain it totally clogged. Yes, life has been lots of fun for me recently, and money keeps flying out the door. Anyhow, probably busy after that too with the plumber checking to see what caused the blockage in the first place once the clearing is done. So I will not be here leading up to dusk. I'm hopeful that everyone will show up before I have to leave for D1.
Felice AKA Maria

Dake wrote:

felice is good.

[vote vanders]

does that work? are the brackets the problem?

vote vanders


Pretty sure the brackets make no difference. They're not needed for modkiwi, just bolding. I think you'll see this produce two votes.
Tokah

Dake wrote:

felice is good.

[vote vanders]

does that work? are the brackets the problem?

vote vanders


nickname vanderscamp as vand

ModKiwi doesn't have Cassy's spelling filter, Dake. You can use brackets or not, that she doesn't care about either way.
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Dake - 2 - SerWave (3), Felice Si (4) , Vanderscamp (7)
Smugvid - 2 - silverbonds (6), Felice Si (9)
dbmurph22 - 1 - SerWave (1) , ljtrigirl (5)
zd00 - 1 - Smugvid (8)
Vanderscamp - 1 - Dake (10) , Dake (11)
silverbonds - 0 - SerWave (2)
Not voting: dbmurph22, zd00

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Current Claims:
zd00 - (no claim)
dbmurph22 - (no claim)
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - (no claim)
Felice Si - (no claim)
Vanderscamp - (no claim)
silverbonds - (no claim)
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Dake Jimson

Felice Si wrote:

FYI Between 2 and 4 today I will have big trucks at my house doing a pressure flush and vacuum because my sewer main drain it totally clogged. Yes, life has been lots of fun for me recently, and money keeps flying out the door. Anyhow, probably busy after that too with the plumber checking to see what caused the blockage in the first place once the clearing is done. So I will not be here leading up to dusk. I'm hopeful that everyone will show up before I have to leave for D1.


stop pooping so much, felice.
Felice AKA Maria

Dake wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

FYI Between 2 and 4 today I will have big trucks at my house doing a pressure flush and vacuum because my sewer main drain it totally clogged. Yes, life has been lots of fun for me recently, and money keeps flying out the door. Anyhow, probably busy after that too with the plumber checking to see what caused the blockage in the first place once the clearing is done. So I will not be here leading up to dusk. I'm hopeful that everyone will show up before I have to leave for D1.


stop pooping so much, felice.


I was anticipating someone saying this proves I'm full of sh!t.
Zed TwoEggs
Well I think it's clear that Felice has been chopping up bodies and flushing them down the toilet - so obviously not a wolf, because a wolf would have ate them. Possibly sorc still, but that's small potatoes to me.

This is an attempt at a joke, not a seer hint, unless it should be, but it's not.
Felice AKA Maria

silverbonds wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

Silver! Everything ok there after Matthew? Do we have any WW'ers in the Carolinas?


I'm in Tampa! We had quite a few visitors staying with relatives and such in the city, but my power didn't even flicker. Hermine was more destructive. I have a few friends in St. Augustine who reported a few downed trees and run of the mill wind damage but nothing serious.


Glad to hear you weren't impacted by it. We've been seeing the devastation in the Carolinas on the news, I didn't know how far inland it had gone in Florida.
Dave ??arski-Riley
Felice, I'm a Good little boy, just trying to have fun and create content. Are you looking for a Sorc?
Felice AKA Maria

Smugvid wrote:

Felice, I'm a Good little boy, just trying to have fun and create content. Are you looking for a Sorc?


mmmm-hhmmmm ... time will tell. goo

Of course I'm looking for a sorc. A sorc and two wolves to be exact. If we lynch a sorc that's still good as far as I'm concerned.

Where is everyone?
Silver

Smugvid wrote:

Felice, I'm a Good little boy, just trying to have fun and create content. Are you looking for a Sorc?


your phrasing in the last few posts looks very wolf in a people suit to me

so obviously I need to think the opposite of what that feels like and declare you good?

Dake, why vanders?
Dake Jimson

silverbonds wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Felice, I'm a Good little boy, just trying to have fun and create content. Are you looking for a Sorc?


your phrasing in the last few posts looks very wolf in a people suit to me

so obviously I need to think the opposite of what that feels like and declare you good?

Dake, why vanders?


just meta, i hate that guy.

but also 3rd vote theory!
Dake Jimson
i mean, this is actually the most classic example of third vote theory. it's meta stage, so less egregious, but casting a 3rd vote on someone is a pretty big impact in a 9er. that's serious-land. if you walk in serious-land, you should have your serious pants on. does vanders have his serious pants on? i don't know, silver. i just don't know.
Dake, vote me.
Dave ??arski-Riley

Dake wrote:

i mean, this is actually the most classic example of third vote theory. it's meta stage, so less egregious, but casting a 3rd vote on someone is a pretty big impact in a 9er. that's serious-land. if you walk in serious-land, you should have your serious pants on. does vanders have his serious pants on? i don't know, silver. i just don't know.


I like this Dake post.

silverbonds wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Felice, I'm a Good little boy, just trying to have fun and create content. Are you looking for a Sorc?


your phrasing in the last few posts looks very wolf in a people suit to me

so obviously I need to think the opposite of what that feels like and declare you good?

Dake, why vanders?


Smug and Felice seems ok to me so far, but I'm pretty terrible at getting reads with a quiet village like this.

Silver, what's your experience here and have you played with everyone other than me before?

Same goes for Dake and Murph, if y'all don't mind.
Dave ??arski-Riley

silverbonds wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Felice, I'm a Good little boy, just trying to have fun and create content. Are you looking for a Sorc?


your phrasing in the last few posts looks very wolf in a people suit to me

so obviously I need to think the opposite of what that feels like and declare you good?

Dake, why vanders?


thumbsup
Felice AKA Maria
OK, Mister Rooter is here. I may not be back before dusk. For a D1 this quiet I'm ok with my vote.
Dake Jimson

dbmurph22 wrote:

Dake, vote me.


how come?
I'm sleep today. I have an innately hard time voting for anyone here. Going to do my first random.org ever and see what it's like.

[Vote zd00]
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Dake - 2 - SerWave (3), Felice Si (4) , Vanderscamp (7)
Smugvid - 2 - silverbonds (6), Felice Si (9)
zd00 - 2 - Smugvid (8), dbmurph22 (12)
dbmurph22 - 1 - SerWave (1) , ljtrigirl (5)
Vanderscamp - 1 - Dake (10) , Dake (11)
silverbonds - 0 - SerWave (2)
Not voting: zd00

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Current Claims:
zd00 - (no claim)
dbmurph22 - (no claim)
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - (no claim)
Felice Si - (no claim)
Vanderscamp - (no claim)
silverbonds - (no claim)
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Dave ??arski-Riley

SerWave wrote:


Same goes for Dake and Murph, if y'all don't mind.


Ser, have you not done a niner with me and Murph before? I thought you were in that one where Murph was the Seer and I Wolf and we took you to an F3. Maybe that wasn't you. I dunno now.

Murph is an OG. But I love him.

Dake wrote:

dbmurph22 wrote:

Dake, vote me.


how come?


I needed something to wake me up.
Dake Jimson

SerWave wrote:

silverbonds wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Felice, I'm a Good little boy, just trying to have fun and create content. Are you looking for a Sorc?


your phrasing in the last few posts looks very wolf in a people suit to me

so obviously I need to think the opposite of what that feels like and declare you good?

Dake, why vanders?


Smug and Felice seems ok to me so far, but I'm pretty terrible at getting reads with a quiet village like this.

Silver, what's your experience here and have you played with everyone other than me before?

Same goes for Dake and Murph, if y'all don't mind.


i've played with all these fools. i used to play more than i do now, but i guess i'm a grizzled veteran now.
You're a cherished O.rnery G.uy too, Smug. Cheers

Dake wrote:

SerWave wrote:

silverbonds wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Felice, I'm a Good little boy, just trying to have fun and create content. Are you looking for a Sorc?


your phrasing in the last few posts looks very wolf in a people suit to me

so obviously I need to think the opposite of what that feels like and declare you good?

Dake, why vanders?


Smug and Felice seems ok to me so far, but I'm pretty terrible at getting reads with a quiet village like this.

Silver, what's your experience here and have you played with everyone other than me before?

Same goes for Dake and Murph, if y'all don't mind.


i've played with all these fools. i used to play more than i do now, but i guess i'm a grizzled veteran now.


You're past a grizzled veteran. You're in demented and apathetic fogie territory now.

Smugvid wrote:

SerWave wrote:


Same goes for Dake and Murph, if y'all don't mind.


Ser, have you not done a niner with me and Murph before? I thought you were in that one where Murph was the Seer and I Wolf and we took you to an F3. Maybe that wasn't you. I dunno now.

Murph is an OG. But I love him.


I don't believe so, but my memory isn't the greatest. I played a niner with you as a wolf, but I don't believe Murph was in it and I didn't make the final 3 in that one because I was seer cleared.
L Squared
Yeah, idk. I don't feel very engaged so far.

I do think Felice is good. I have a slight - to SerWave but I don't really know why.

I kinda feel like murph and silver are evil, but I have zero definable reasons why, so idk if I feel like voting there yet.

vote Vanders
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Dake - 2 - SerWave (3), Felice Si (4) , Vanderscamp (7)
Smugvid - 2 - silverbonds (6), Felice Si (9)
zd00 - 2 - Smugvid (8), dbmurph22 (12)
Vanderscamp - 2 - Dake (10) , Dake (11), ljtrigirl (13)
dbmurph22 - 0 - SerWave (1) , ljtrigirl (5)
silverbonds - 0 - SerWave (2)
Not voting: zd00

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Current Claims:
zd00 - (no claim)
dbmurph22 - (no claim)
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - (no claim)
Felice Si - (no claim)
Vanderscamp - (no claim)
silverbonds - (no claim)
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
I think SerWave, you either subbed in or almost subbed into a niner that I played a little while back. Or something similar.
Zed TwoEggs
neat tally. I think vanders probably did the third vote thing on purpose because it was a third vote thing. That was my take on it anyway.

I'm fine lynching him for it still because reasons*.

*I have no reasons.
Zed TwoEggs
vote vanders

mwahahahahaah. I did a thing.
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Vote Tally:
Vanderscamp - 3 - Dake (10) , Dake (11), ljtrigirl (13), zd00 (14)
Dake - 2 - SerWave (3), Felice Si (4) , Vanderscamp (7)
Smugvid - 2 - silverbonds (6), Felice Si (9)
zd00 - 2 - Smugvid (8), dbmurph22 (12)
dbmurph22 - 0 - SerWave (1) , ljtrigirl (5)
silverbonds - 0 - SerWave (2)
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zd00 - (no claim)
dbmurph22 - (no claim)
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - (no claim)
Felice Si - (no claim)
Vanderscamp - (no claim)
silverbonds - (no claim)
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Dake Jimson

dbmurph22 wrote:

I think SerWave, you either subbed in or almost subbed into a niner that I played a little while back. Or something similar.


i think he was on the roster when it started but then never showed or something. i was in that one i believe.
Dake Jimson

zd00 wrote:

vote vanders

mwahahahahaah. I did a thing.


OOOOOOOOOOOH SNAP! you totally did do a thing!
Dave ??arski-Riley
I'm gonna suck LJ in.

vote LJ
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Vote Tally:
Vanderscamp - 3 - Dake (10) , Dake (11), ljtrigirl (13), zd00 (14)
Dake - 2 - SerWave (3), Felice Si (4) , Vanderscamp (7)
Smugvid - 2 - silverbonds (6), Felice Si (9)
zd00 - 1 - Smugvid (8) , dbmurph22 (12)
ljtrigirl - 1 - Smugvid (15)
dbmurph22 - 0 - SerWave (1) , ljtrigirl (5)
silverbonds - 0 - SerWave (2)
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dbmurph22 - (no claim)
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - (no claim)
Felice Si - (no claim)
Vanderscamp - (no claim)
silverbonds - (no claim)
ljtrigirl - (no claim)

Dake wrote:

dbmurph22 wrote:

I think SerWave, you either subbed in or almost subbed into a niner that I played a little while back. Or something similar.


i think he was on the roster when it started but then never showed or something. i was in that one i believe.


That might have been the awesome 9er that you went on vacation during, and missed out on some of the interestingness because you were trying to get the hunter win.

Clutching the hunter-win quest is like holding onto the Book of Fasting in the Hunger Games castle. You think it will solve all your problems, and it hollows out your life and experience.

ljtrigirl wrote:

Yeah, idk. I don't feel very engaged so far.

I do think Felice is good. I have a slight - to SerWave but I don't really know why.

I kinda feel like murph and silver are evil, but I have zero definable reasons why, so idk if I feel like voting there yet.

vote Vanders


Gotta be Draco. Your subconscious can't help it.
Dave ??arski-Riley
Is this it?
It's way too quiet.
Zed TwoEggs
I'm ever present and pretty satisfied atm.
Dake Jimson
ser, if it was entirely up to you, who would you most want to hear a claim from?
Dake Jimson
we do have an hour and 10, that's enough time for a whole bunch of action.

all that i've managed to pull out of the game so far are good reads, which isn't a-typical for D1 of a 9er. that's often how i start.

smug, felice, lj all seem good. pretty neutral on the rest. felice is the goodest of the 3 (so the wolves still think i could be seer).
Murph - Hunter, Priest, or Sorcerer

Make things a little more interesting I guess.

Dake wrote:

ser, if it was entirely up to you, who would you most want to hear a claim from?


Would have to be the Vanders at this point since he's sitting in LL.

I'm generally against pushing for multiple claims because I think that only helps evil, but quiet villages do too (probably even more so).
Dake Jimson

SerWave wrote:

Dake wrote:

ser, if it was entirely up to you, who would you most want to hear a claim from?


Would have to be the Vanders at this point since he's sitting in LL.

I'm generally against pushing for multiple claims because I think that only helps evil, but quiet villages do too (probably even more so).


pretend there is no tally. only your vote counts. is vand still the claim you'd want to see?
I think Dake is okay, but I'm rusty.

Dake wrote:

SerWave wrote:

Dake wrote:

ser, if it was entirely up to you, who would you most want to hear a claim from?


Would have to be the Vanders at this point since he's sitting in LL.

I'm generally against pushing for multiple claims because I think that only helps evil, but quiet villages do too (probably even more so).


pretend there is no tally. only your vote counts. is vand still the claim you'd want to see?


Nope. I'd probably want someone I have little to no experience with.
Dave ??arski-Riley
I'd take a claim from LJ. Just because I think she's the person who could handle that the best.

Smugvid wrote:

I'd take a claim from LJ. Just because I think she's the person who could handle that the best.


I would probably include LJ in the group I have little experience with. I don't think I've actually played in a game with her. Just ones she's modded.

That being said, I liked her 1 real post.
Dave ??arski-Riley

SerWave wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

I'd take a claim from LJ. Just because I think she's the person who could handle that the best.


I would probably include LJ in the group I have little experience with. I don't think I've actually played in a game with her. Just ones she's modded.

That being said, I liked her 1 real post.


Why?

Smugvid wrote:

SerWave wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

I'd take a claim from LJ. Just because I think she's the person who could handle that the best.


I would probably include LJ in the group I have little experience with. I don't think I've actually played in a game with her. Just ones she's modded.

That being said, I liked her 1 real post.


Why?


Ha, because I didn't. Wanted to see if anyone would agree with me.
Dake Jimson
really?
Dake Jimson
the old bait and switch. you fell right into it, smuggles.
I almost posted when she posted it that I liked it and almost agree with you now. I'm so glad I didn't do either and fall into your trap.

Don't know. It gave me the sense of Ljgoodunsureness and it made some sense, but I know it's pretty thin.
Dake Jimson
yeah, i got that slight good-lj vibe.

i think the pendulum has swung to me defaulting to her being good. it's just a more peaceful state of being.
Dave ??arski-Riley

Dake wrote:

the old bait and switch. you fell right into it, smuggles.


Nuh-uh, I was challenging.

Smugvid wrote:

Dake wrote:

the old bait and switch. you fell right into it, smuggles.


Nuh-uh, I was challenging.


That's how I took it.

What's your read on her post?

I really don't have a basis for it so can't tell if it's genuine reads or not.

Dake wrote:

the old bait and switch. you fell right into it, smuggles.


You're falling for it now. Wave really meant it - he's faking it now that it was a trap. That's the real trap.
Dake Jimson
smug is good because he's been funny and carefree. and i feel like when he does that as evil it doesn't come off as natural.

felice is good because i think she gave a real read that she believes in. if i go deeper, of course evils can do this too. especially on D1 when being wrong is easily forgiven. on the surface though, i want to say felice is fine.
Dake Jimson

dbmurph22 wrote:

Dake wrote:

the old bait and switch. you fell right into it, smuggles.


You're falling for it now. Wave really meant it - he's faking it now that it was a trap. That's the real trap.


well i DO think that post sounded good, so did i get trapped?
Silver
vote dake

Dake's been squirrely but I want to see if the tally does interesting things with a tie
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Vote Tally:
Vanderscamp - 3 - Dake (10) , Dake (11), ljtrigirl (13), zd00 (14)
Dake - 3 - SerWave (3), Felice Si (4) , Vanderscamp (7), silverbonds (16)
Smugvid - 1 - silverbonds (6) , Felice Si (9)
zd00 - 1 - Smugvid (8) , dbmurph22 (12)
ljtrigirl - 1 - Smugvid (15)
dbmurph22 - 0 - SerWave (1) , ljtrigirl (5)
silverbonds - 0 - SerWave (2)
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Current Claims:
zd00 - (no claim)
dbmurph22 - (no claim)
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - (no claim)
Felice Si - (no claim)
Vanderscamp - (no claim)
silverbonds - (no claim)
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Dake Jimson

silverbonds wrote:

vote dake

Dake's been squirrely but I want to see if the tally does interesting things with a tie


i've been squirely, not squirrely.
Dake Jimson
just a helpful guy. bringing you your sword, or lance or whatever.
Zed TwoEggs
naw Dake is alright by D1 standards.

Also not a seer hint.
Dave ??arski-Riley

SerWave wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Dake wrote:

the old bait and switch. you fell right into it, smuggles.


Nuh-uh, I was challenging.


That's how I took it.

What's your read on her post?

I really don't have a basis for it so can't tell if it's genuine reads or not.


She's not a liar about stuff, so I think she isn't engaged, but if she's a Wolf she probably good read a partner. I don't have a particular lean either way though. I think I can ride with LJ now, but I need to have a bit more interaction.
Dake Jimson
i'm not sure i buy this "squirrely" read on me.

care to elaborate, silver?
Silver

Dake wrote:

silverbonds wrote:

vote dake

Dake's been squirrely but I want to see if the tally does interesting things with a tie


i've been squirely, not squirrely.


no joke I did write squirely at first and was like wait... no i meant the chitter chitter nut kind not the clank clank chivilary kind
Silver

Dake wrote:

i'm not sure i buy this "squirrely" read on me.

care to elaborate, silver?


Very peppy and excitable for such a quiet D1
Dave ??arski-Riley
Silver, how do you feel about Vander?
Silver

Smugvid wrote:

Silver, how do you feel about Vander?


He's not gonna be here in the next 13 minutes to claim or provide content-y type things because of his time zone so I'd rather the lynch not default there. I would have liked to see more.

But also the game is so generally contentless that you could make that argument about half of the people here


edit: fixed quote bracket
Dave ??arski-Riley
Dake, this blows, because I think you're Good, but fuck D1 with no claims.

vote Dake
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Vote Tally:
Dake - 4 - SerWave (3), Felice Si (4) , Vanderscamp (7), silverbonds (16), Smugvid (17)
Vanderscamp - 3 - Dake (10) , Dake (11), ljtrigirl (13), zd00 (14)
Smugvid - 1 - silverbonds (6) , Felice Si (9)
zd00 - 1 - Smugvid (8) , dbmurph22 (12)
dbmurph22 - 0 - SerWave (1) , ljtrigirl (5)
silverbonds - 0 - SerWave (2)
ljtrigirl - 0 - Smugvid (15)
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zd00 - (no claim)
dbmurph22 - (no claim)
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - (no claim)
Felice Si - (no claim)
Vanderscamp - (no claim)
silverbonds - (no claim)
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Silver
claim time dake
Zed TwoEggs
I kind of saw that coming.
Dave ??arski-Riley
Man, this is not good.
Zed TwoEggs
seems weeeeeak.

but maybe not.

but probably.
Tokah
I've been following along/checking for the last hour, and the tally is correct.
That Dake vote stunk. I'd do a Silver rush.
Vote Silver
Alabaster
What's happening
I refuse to vote for Dake or Vanders. So deal with it.
Zed TwoEggs
The smug vote was pretty bad too. "I think he's good, but I'm going to vote there." Ewness.
Dave ??arski-Riley

dbmurph22 wrote:

That Dake vote stunk. I'd do a Silver rush.


Yeah, alright.

vote silver
Silver

dbmurph22 wrote:

That Dake vote stunk. I'd do a Silver rush.


well at least I'm here to claim

Villager, preemptively, cause I know how fast these things go
Zed TwoEggs

Vanderscamp wrote:

What's happening
You could claim if you like, but maybe dake will just die a tragic death.
Alabaster
Well, almost LL is better than LL....
Alabaster
Why is Lindsey voting for me?

zd00 wrote:

The smug vote was pretty bad too. "I think he's good, but I'm going to vote there." Ewness.


Yeah, but it was too wolfy to be wolfy
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Vote Tally:
Vanderscamp - 3 - Dake (10) , Dake (11), ljtrigirl (13), zd00 (14)
Dake - 3 - SerWave (3), Felice Si (4) , Vanderscamp (7), silverbonds (16), Smugvid (17)
silverbonds - 2 - SerWave (2) , dbmurph22 (18), Smugvid (19)
Smugvid - 1 - silverbonds (6) , Felice Si (9)
zd00 - 0 - Smugvid (8) , dbmurph22 (12)
dbmurph22 - 0 - SerWave (1) , ljtrigirl (5)
ljtrigirl - 0 - Smugvid (15)
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zd00 - (no claim)
dbmurph22 - (no claim)
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - (no claim)
Felice Si - (no claim)
Vanderscamp - (no claim)
silverbonds - (no claim)
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Dave ??arski-Riley

zd00 wrote:

The smug vote was pretty bad too. "I think he's good, but I'm going to vote there." Ewness.


Oh, it was awful, but I'm clear, so at least there's that.
Zed TwoEggs

dbmurph22 wrote:

zd00 wrote:

The smug vote was pretty bad too. "I think he's good, but I'm going to vote there." Ewness.


Yeah, but it was too wolfy to be wolfy
it's tru nuf.
Silver

zd00 wrote:

The smug vote was pretty bad too. "I think he's good, but I'm going to vote there." Ewness.


I said he was excitable. That kind of nervousness of wanting to move things about is something I associate with evil.
Alabaster
I don't have any reads, sorry.

I will give you more when I'm caught up.
Zed TwoEggs
claim vaaan. or vill I guess.
Alabaster
Don't kill me please!!
Dave ??arski-Riley
This is bogus.
Vanders and Wave were already voting Dake so maybe I should have voted Vanders after all. And Wave hasnt really seemed villagery. "quiet villlllllage" and all that cliche
Tokah
dusk

Shh!
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Current Claims:
zd00 - (no claim)
dbmurph22 - (no claim)
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - (no claim)
Felice Si - (no claim)
Vanderscamp - (no claim)
silverbonds - (no claim)
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Tokah

modkiwi wrote:

Vote Tally:
Vanderscamp - 3 - Dake (10) , Dake (11), ljtrigirl (13), zd00 (14)
Dake - 3 - SerWave (3), Felice Si (4) , Vanderscamp (7), silverbonds (16), Smugvid (17)
silverbonds - 2 - SerWave (2) , dbmurph22 (18), Smugvid (19)
Smugvid - 1 - silverbonds (6) , Felice Si (9)
zd00 - 0 - Smugvid (8) , dbmurph22 (12)
dbmurph22 - 0 - SerWave (1) , ljtrigirl (5)
ljtrigirl - 0 - Smugvid (15)
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zd00 - (no claim)
dbmurph22 - (no claim)
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - (no claim)
Felice Si - (no claim)
Vanderscamp - (no claim)
silverbonds - (no claim)
ljtrigirl - (no claim)


This is correct and up to date for dusk, near as I can tell.
Tokah
killed Vanderscamp

Orders are due at 2:40pm, let me know if you see any tally hiccups I missed via GM, but it looks right.
Tokah
Oh, no night posting, btw.
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Current Claims:
zd00 - (no claim)
dbmurph22 - (no claim)
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - (no claim)
Felice Si - (no claim)
silverbonds - (no claim)
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Tokah

TFang wrote:

Roster

1. LJ
2. SerWave
3. Zd00
4. Murph
5. Silver
6. Smug
7. Felice
8. Van - killed D1
9. Dake
Tokah
dawn of D2

killed zd00

You may post, sending out GM's with stuff now.
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Vote Tally:
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dbmurph22 - (no claim)
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - (no claim)
Felice Si - (no claim)
silverbonds - (no claim)
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
L Squared
Whoops. That wasn't my intention. Poor Scampi.

Is it all claim time?
I lied with my claim set.

I'm actually Seer.

LJ is good.
Wave is a woof.
Tokah
All relevant info for the Dawn of D2 has been sent out. (Bug me if I missed you due to manual processing.) Please put in placeholder orders early!
L Squared

dbmurph22 wrote:

I lied with my claim set.

I'm actually Seer.

LJ is good.
Wave is a woof.


I believe it.

vote serwoof
L Squared
Scampi was a Villager, so we're at must lynch.
Tokah

ljtrigirl wrote:

dbmurph22 wrote:

I lied with my claim set.

I'm actually Seer.

LJ is good.
Wave is a woof.


I believe it.

vote serwoof


You should note Kiwi won't actually take that vote.
Vote SerWave

at a computer now

Claim Seer
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Vote Tally:
SerWave - 1 - dbmurph22 (1)
Not voting: Dake, Felice Si, SerWave, Smugvid, ljtrigirl, silverbonds

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Current Claims:
dbmurph22 - Seer
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - (no claim)
Felice Si - (no claim)
silverbonds - (no claim)
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
L Squared
Vote SerWave
L Squared
Claim Priest, Vanders Villager
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Vote Tally:
SerWave - 2 - dbmurph22 (1), ljtrigirl (2)
Not voting: Dake, Felice Si, SerWave, Smugvid, silverbonds

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Current Claims:
dbmurph22 - Seer
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - (no claim)
Felice Si - (no claim)
silverbonds - (no claim)
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Karafruit Villager-Thrower

TFang wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

dbmurph22 wrote:

I lied with my claim set.

I'm actually Seer.

LJ is good.
Wave is a woof.


I believe it.

vote serwoof


You should note Kiwi won't actually take that vote.

ninja kiwi will, but modkiwi won't ninja
Dave ??arski-Riley
Easy does it, Murph is not Wolf N0 and Dake is Good, if Murph is gonna maintain.
Dave ??arski-Riley
Claim Seer, Murph N0, Dake N1 no hits
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Vote Tally:
SerWave - 2 - dbmurph22 (1), ljtrigirl (2)
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Current Claims:
dbmurph22 - Seer
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - Seer, Murph N0, Dake N1 no hits
Felice Si - (no claim)
silverbonds - (no claim)
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Busy working. Will try to wrap my head around what you're trying to do or who you could be.
Dake Jimson

TFang wrote:

dawn of D2

killed zd00

You may post, sending out GM's with stuff now.


hmmm, i was expecting an LJ kill.
Dake Jimson

ljtrigirl wrote:

Whoops. That wasn't my intention. Poor Scampi.

Is it all claim time?


what wasn't your intention?
Dake Jimson
cool, double seer claim. i don't counter.

first impression is that i believe murph. i am undecided if fake-seer-smug is good or evil.
Dave ??arski-Riley

Dake wrote:

cool, double seer claim. i don't counter.

first impression is that i believe murph. i am undecided if fake-seer-smug is good or evil.


I'm the Seer. You voted Van, van voted you, either of you could have died. Having a view on you was a quasi view of Vander also. If you'd been a Wolf, he almost certainly wasn't and I might have been able to finesse a false-claiming priest too.
Dave ??arski-Riley
Dake, what is the purpose of me countering real Seer Murph when neither of us have a hit if I'm fake?
Dake Jimson

Smugvid wrote:

Dake wrote:

cool, double seer claim. i don't counter.

first impression is that i believe murph. i am undecided if fake-seer-smug is good or evil.


I'm the Seer. You voted Van, van voted you, either of you could have died. Having a view on you was a quasi view of Vander also. If you'd been a Wolf, he almost certainly wasn't and I might have been able to finesse a false-claiming priest too.


i didn't ask for your story, but it's a compelling one actually.

what's your story, murph?
Dake Jimson

Smugvid wrote:

Dake, what is the purpose of me countering real Seer Murph when neither of us have a hit if I'm fake?


i haven't looked at it that deep. that was just first blush. i don't immediately see a reason to do that, you're right. but i often fail to see all the strings.

i am keeping an open mind, smug. worry not.
Dave ??arski-Riley

Smugvid wrote:

Dake, what is the purpose of me countering real Seer Murph when neither of us have a hit if I'm fake?


I don't know why I forgot that Murph claimed a hit.
Dave ??arski-Riley

Smugvid wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Dake, what is the purpose of me countering real Seer Murph when neither of us have a hit if I'm fake?


I don't know why I forgot that Murph claimed a hit.


This is why playing with beer inside you is dumb, Smug.
Dake Jimson

Smugvid wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Dake, what is the purpose of me countering real Seer Murph when neither of us have a hit if I'm fake?


I don't know why I forgot that Murph claimed a hit.


lol. i didn't notice that statement was wrong either.

so duh, that's why. but wow, what a weird little brain fart that would be for a sorc to commit. a sorc would be hyper aware of the hit. interesting.
Dake Jimson
wave needs to claim, obv. i anxiously await that thing happening.

lj, you should have waited for wave's claim. probably?
Dave ??arski-Riley

Dake wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Dake, what is the purpose of me countering real Seer Murph when neither of us have a hit if I'm fake?


I don't know why I forgot that Murph claimed a hit.


lol. i didn't notice that statement was wrong either.

so duh, that's why. but wow, what a weird little brain fart that would be for a sorc to commit. a sorc would be hyper aware of the hit. interesting.


If Jared were here, he would refuse to countenance a clear on me because I fluffed my lines, so I owe it to him to tell you to not let that factor into things.
Dake Jimson

Smugvid wrote:

Dake wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Dake, what is the purpose of me countering real Seer Murph when neither of us have a hit if I'm fake?


I don't know why I forgot that Murph claimed a hit.


lol. i didn't notice that statement was wrong either.

so duh, that's why. but wow, what a weird little brain fart that would be for a sorc to commit. a sorc would be hyper aware of the hit. interesting.


If Jared were here, he would refuse to countenance a clear on me because I fluffed my lines, so I owe it to him to tell you to not let that factor into things.


it's a factor, but probably won't carry much weight in any sort of final assessment.
Felice AKA Maria
I can use my pipes again! Yay!

So I've read what's happened since dusk and dawn but nothing of the rest of D1 from when I left at 11:30. I'll decide which seer I believe after I've read everything I missed.

I guess we don't have another dusk until Monday? I'd play through the weekend but I don't suppose others want to. Going out to a late movie tonight so I'll probably catch up tomorrow.
Dake Jimson
yeah, at about 5 BGG i'm out for the weekend.
Silver
claim villager

I'm not all here today, distracted with school things. Initial thoughts, smug doesn't seem like a seer to me and I can't see a wolf doing a counterclaim here.

I'm not sure why murph would try to draw a nk with his hunter/priest/sorc claim while being a seer, though I guess it worked out considering he's alive with possible hit.
Silver
vote serwave not sure if claims/votes can go in same posts but consider this attached to the last thing
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Vote Tally:
SerWave - 3 - dbmurph22 (1), ljtrigirl (2), silverbonds (3)
Not voting: Dake, Felice Si, SerWave, Smugvid

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Current Claims:
dbmurph22 - Seer
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - Seer, Murph N0, Dake N1 no hits
Felice Si - (no claim)
silverbonds - villager
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Dake Jimson

silverbonds wrote:

claim villager

I'm not all here today, distracted with school things. Initial thoughts, smug doesn't seem like a seer to me and I can't see a wolf doing a counterclaim here.

I'm not sure why murph would try to draw a nk with his hunter/priest/sorc claim while being a seer, though I guess it worked out considering he's alive with possible hit.


the sorc bit adds the nice tasty game of chicken into it. i can see a dbmurph doing this.
Silver

Dake wrote:

silverbonds wrote:

claim villager

I'm not all here today, distracted with school things. Initial thoughts, smug doesn't seem like a seer to me and I can't see a wolf doing a counterclaim here.

I'm not sure why murph would try to draw a nk with his hunter/priest/sorc claim while being a seer, though I guess it worked out considering he's alive with possible hit.


the sorc bit adds the nice tasty game of chicken into it. i can see a dbmurph doing this.


a seer or sorc dbmurph doing it?
Silver
I guess the third possibility is that murph is a wolf, since a must lynch situation here means that a false hit would win them the game. Thoughts?
Dave ??arski-Riley

silverbonds wrote:

I guess the third possibility is that murph is a wolf, since a must lynch situation here means that a false hit would win them the game. Thoughts?


Only if you don't believe my clear of him.
Tokah
Dusk of D2 is 2pm on Monday.
Dave ??arski-Riley

silverbonds wrote:

claim villager

I'm not all here today, distracted with school things. Initial thoughts, smug doesn't seem like a seer to me and I can't see a wolf doing a counterclaim here.

I'm not sure why murph would try to draw a nk with his hunter/priest/sorc claim while being a seer, though I guess it worked out considering he's alive with possible hit.


Also, why don't I seem like a Seer? What do you expect Seer Smug to do that I haven't? What do you expect Sorc Smug to do that I have?
Dave ??arski-Riley
I'm pooped, bed tomorrow. No, that's not right. Bed now, driving lesson tomorrow.
Dake Jimson

silverbonds wrote:

Dake wrote:

silverbonds wrote:

claim villager

I'm not all here today, distracted with school things. Initial thoughts, smug doesn't seem like a seer to me and I can't see a wolf doing a counterclaim here.

I'm not sure why murph would try to draw a nk with his hunter/priest/sorc claim while being a seer, though I guess it worked out considering he's alive with possible hit.


the sorc bit adds the nice tasty game of chicken into it. i can see a dbmurph doing this.


a seer or sorc dbmurph doing it?


i meant seer, but of course sorc can do it. that goes without saying.
Silver

Smugvid wrote:

silverbonds wrote:

I guess the third possibility is that murph is a wolf, since a must lynch situation here means that a false hit would win them the game. Thoughts?


Only if you don't believe my clear of him.


third possibility .5 you are both evil and there's some tricksey hobbitses crap goin on.* and serwave's gonna come in and be like IM SPARTACUS (seer) and we'll all laugh ourselves into doom

but I get the point. In a reasonable world, at worst it's seer/sorc for murph, and seer/sorc/wolf for smuggles. Though I'm throwing out wolf because it just seems silly to counter, even if serwave is a wolf with smug, why would smug jump into save the day and give himself up? I'd expect a partner to be dakeish right now. Squirrel-ly you might say

*ridiculously tired, ignore if silly
Silver

Smugvid wrote:

silverbonds wrote:

claim villager

I'm not all here today, distracted with school things. Initial thoughts, smug doesn't seem like a seer to me and I can't see a wolf doing a counterclaim here.

I'm not sure why murph would try to draw a nk with his hunter/priest/sorc claim while being a seer, though I guess it worked out considering he's alive with possible hit.


Also, why don't I seem like a Seer? What do you expect Seer Smug to do that I haven't? What do you expect Sorc Smug to do that I have?


1. When you're seer, I want to lynch you right away.
2. I haven't tunneled on you in that respect.
3. There haven't been strong feelings so you don't feel like you normally do for me as a GS (i.e. me reading you as HELLA EVIL BRUH).

I dunno what to expect of a sorc smug, I don't think I've played with him. I guess generally, I'd expect a sorc to die gloriously trying to get a mislynch to happen, which would mean calling a hit somewhere. I'm not sure smug follows convention enough to expect that of him. Murph definitely not so.

I'm stuck in the middle, but I want to go with the supposed hit, because it's just easier? more satisfying to think we've got it cut out for us so easily.
Silver

Dake wrote:

silverbonds wrote:

Dake wrote:

silverbonds wrote:

claim villager

I'm not all here today, distracted with school things. Initial thoughts, smug doesn't seem like a seer to me and I can't see a wolf doing a counterclaim here.

I'm not sure why murph would try to draw a nk with his hunter/priest/sorc claim while being a seer, though I guess it worked out considering he's alive with possible hit.


the sorc bit adds the nice tasty game of chicken into it. i can see a dbmurph doing this.


a seer or sorc dbmurph doing it?


i meant seer, but of course sorc can do it. that goes without saying.

Was trying to get your read on murph in this specific instance, not really the possibilities of what murph could do
Silver
I think I'm pretty comfortable with my vote. Lack of movement/response from serwave really makes it kind of difficult to imagine believing a counter at this point

off to bed!
Felice AKA Maria
Just read through the game now to catch what I missed. I'm inclined to believe murph's seer claim so I'll vote serwave. I hope everyone will be around tomorrow.
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
SerWave - 4 - dbmurph22 (1), ljtrigirl (2), silverbonds (3), Felice Si (4)
Not voting: Dake, SerWave, Smugvid

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Current Claims:
dbmurph22 - Seer
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - Seer, Murph N0, Dake N1 no hits
Felice Si - (no claim)
silverbonds - villager
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Dave ??arski-Riley

silverbonds wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

silverbonds wrote:

claim villager

I'm not all here today, distracted with school things. Initial thoughts, smug doesn't seem like a seer to me and I can't see a wolf doing a counterclaim here.

I'm not sure why murph would try to draw a nk with his hunter/priest/sorc claim while being a seer, though I guess it worked out considering he's alive with possible hit.


Also, why don't I seem like a Seer? What do you expect Seer Smug to do that I haven't? What do you expect Sorc Smug to do that I have?


1. When you're seer, I want to lynch you right away.
2. I haven't tunneled on you in that respect.
3. There haven't been strong feelings so you don't feel like you normally do for me as a GS (i.e. me reading you as HELLA EVIL BRUH).

I dunno what to expect of a sorc smug, I don't think I've played with him. I guess generally, I'd expect a sorc to die gloriously trying to get a mislynch to happen, which would mean calling a hit somewhere. I'm not sure smug follows convention enough to expect that of him. Murph definitely not so.

I'm stuck in the middle, but I want to go with the supposed hit, because it's just easier? more satisfying to think we've got it cut out for us so easily.


If LJ is the real Priest and Vander was a Villy, then, from my POV, killing Ser could be the game. Murph doesn't know if Ser is a Wolf, but the Wolves definitely do. As long as he isn't, then we are gonna have 3 players who want to vote there (presuming Murph as Sorc) and the Wolves know that Murph isn't the Seer.

Admittedly, Murph might have called a hit on one of his Wolves, which would be quite funny.
Dave ??arski-Riley
Felice and Silver - presumably you guys are claiming Hunter/Villager?

Ser - if you claim Priest here, we're in a bad spot if you're legit.
Dake Jimson

silverbonds wrote:

Dake wrote:

silverbonds wrote:

Dake wrote:

silverbonds wrote:

claim villager

I'm not all here today, distracted with school things. Initial thoughts, smug doesn't seem like a seer to me and I can't see a wolf doing a counterclaim here.

I'm not sure why murph would try to draw a nk with his hunter/priest/sorc claim while being a seer, though I guess it worked out considering he's alive with possible hit.


the sorc bit adds the nice tasty game of chicken into it. i can see a dbmurph doing this.


a seer or sorc dbmurph doing it?


i meant seer, but of course sorc can do it. that goes without saying.

Was trying to get your read on murph in this specific instance, not really the possibilities of what murph could do


i already gave my read, i lean toward him as seer.
Dave ??arski-Riley
Boo.
Dake Jimson
don't sweat, smug. there's a whole day. this stuff came out right before we punched out for the week.
Murphy is the sorc it seems.

I'm the priest. Vanders was a villager.

Initial guess is Dake was saved without a claim so may be a wolf.

Getting ready for work now, will finish catching up a little later this morning.
Dake Jimson

SerWave wrote:

Murphy is the sorc it seems.

I'm the priest. Vanders was a villager.

Initial guess is Dake was saved without a claim so may be a wolf.

Getting ready for work now, will finish catching up a little later this morning.


this changes things considerably.

lj claimed priest, right?
Dake Jimson
that would mean smug-seer, wave-priest, murph-sorc, lj-wolf. maybe silver as second wolf.

i maybe like that world better.
Dake Jimson
the other world is

murph-seer
lj-priest
wave-wolf
smug-wolf/sorc

i very much doubt wolf, but it's not out of the question.

i currently don't like this world as much.

but if i think felice is good, silver is evil and probably a wolf in both world.

felice, are you good?
Dake Jimson
[vote silver]
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
SerWave - 4 - dbmurph22 (1), ljtrigirl (2), silverbonds (3), Felice Si (4)
silverbonds - 1 - Dake (5)
Not voting: SerWave, Smugvid

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Current Claims:
dbmurph22 - Seer
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - Seer, Murph N0, Dake N1 no hits
Felice Si - (no claim)
silverbonds - villager
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Felice AKA Maria

Dake wrote:

that would mean smug-seer, wave-priest, murph-sorc, lj-wolf. maybe silver as second wolf.

i maybe like that world better.


I have mixed feelings. I didn't have a good read of LJ from D1 but without a counter and if I believe Murph as seer, I was taking the priest claim at face value. Then there was this post from Smuggly:

Smugvid wrote:

Felice and Silver - presumably you guys are claiming Hunter/Villager?

Ser - if you claim Priest here, we're in a bad spot if you're legit.


Which, to me, sounded like Smug telling his wolf what to do ....

I'm huntillager, by the way.

claim huntillager

Dake is my best good read.
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
SerWave - 4 - dbmurph22 (1), ljtrigirl (2), silverbonds (3), Felice Si (4)
silverbonds - 1 - Dake (5)
Not voting: SerWave, Smugvid

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Current Claims:
dbmurph22 - Seer
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - Seer, Murph N0, Dake N1 no hits
Felice Si - huntillager
silverbonds - villager
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Dake Jimson
i might be mistaken, but with the claims the way they are, i think there has to be an evil, and very likely a wolf (given the assumption that smug isn't wolf*) between felice/dake/silver.

smug isn't a wolf because that means we'd have wolves claiming priest/seer, which feel unsustainable.

however... they'd only need 1 mislynch for the win, so that doesn't matter as much.

it would mean that the sorc is NOT mixed up in claims, which seems preposterous.

so that leaves me with a wolf in dake/silver/felice. in the likeliest of worlds.
Dake Jimson
also huntillager, if that wasn't already obvious.
Dake Jimson
we should not be voting serwave, we should be hedging. we ARE at must-lynch. this is almost guaranteed.
Dake Jimson
now i need to know if anyone is rescinding.

go.
Dake Jimson
the only way we're not at must-lynch is if the N1 NK was the sorc. who the fuck was the N1 NK? i don't remember anymore.
Dake Jimson
zd00. if zd00 was sorc, that means we either have 2 wolves claiming things, or a lying good.

anyway, i'm not going down that rabbit-hole yet. i think there's a wolf between silver/felice/dake and i think it's silver.
Ok. I skimmed through everything. Saw Smug and lj's claims, which means Dake can't be a wolf but lj must be.

Also, Silver, I was out all weekend starting right at lynch. Had to drive 8 hours and had no wifi all weekend. I usually announce such things but it slipped my mind.

So team evil is Murph - Sorc, LJ - Wolf1, Silver/Felice - Wolf2

I need to do some rereading but gut is vote silver
L Squared

SerWave wrote:

Murphy is the sorc it seems.

I'm the priest. Vanders was a villager.

Initial guess is Dake was saved without a claim so may be a wolf.

Getting ready for work now, will finish catching up a little later this morning.


Yeah, I'm not the Priest. I'm a huntillager.

I expect that murph will be retracting his hit. I thought it was fake at the time, but I wanted to wait and see what SerWave claimed and thought that adding a Priest claim to the mix would deter a Priest fake claim from evils.

claim huntillager

I think I want to start with a vote silver
L Squared

Dake wrote:

the only way we're not at must-lynch is if the N1 NK was the sorc. who the fuck was the N1 NK? i don't remember anymore.


zd00

That actually wouldn't surprise me. I thought he was something because he was giving off a definite non-villager vibe, but there aren't any spots left for him.
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Vote Tally:
SerWave - 3 - dbmurph22 (1), ljtrigirl (2) , silverbonds (3), Felice Si (4)
silverbonds - 3 - Dake (5), SerWave (6), ljtrigirl (7)
Not voting: Smugvid

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Current Claims:
dbmurph22 - Seer
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - Seer, Murph N0, Dake N1 no hits
Felice Si - huntillager
silverbonds - villager
ljtrigirl - huntillager
L Squared
What were Smug's views?
L Squared
Hmmmmmmmmmm.

Ok, murph- please confirm that you were fake claiming.

This means it has to be silver/felice is we take claims at face value? That seems too easy. But silver does seem evil, so I'll roll with it for today.
L Squared
I could totally buy that though with silver and Felice both piling onto the hit. It would require a better D1 from Felice than I've ever seen her do as evil though.
Tokah

TFang wrote:

Roster

1. LJ
2. SerWave
3. Zd00 - killed n1
4. Murph
5. Silver
6. Smug
7. Felice
8. Van - killed D1
9. Dake


I've been keeping this post in page 1 updated with deaths.
I think I had some inspiration on Friday for a better pivot on my current claim or maybe the game state has changed enough. I think I was thinking of going back to my D1 claim or Priest. But, yeah, I'm Huntilla the Great.
Dake Jimson
i guess i kind of expected that, but was hoping it'd be easier.

bleh, opens shit up too much.
Dave ??arski-Riley

SerWave wrote:

Murphy is the sorc it seems.

I'm the priest. Vanders was a villager.

Initial guess is Dake was saved without a claim so may be a wolf.

Getting ready for work now, will finish catching up a little later this morning.


If Murph is Sorc, then you also disbelieve my clear of Dake?
Dave ??arski-Riley
If anybody didn't already have Dake as clear because of my view, you should do based on his posting today.
Felice AKA Maria
Things have gotten complicated, I see. So Ser is claiming priest, Smug is claiming seer. And Smug viewed Dake and ..... gotta look that up again.
I thought he was good yesterday. So for me, it's a frustrating view, but maybe it helps other people and the game as a whole if you're legit.
Dave ??arski-Riley
So me and Ser are no uncountered?

I didn't really believe Ser's claim. If he's a Wolf, he presumably believes Murph and thinks I'm Sorc (because he would know I'm not Wolf), so knows lj's claim is from a Good seat. And without a Priest counter, he can be that.

Hmm.

More work to do at work, back later.
Felice AKA Maria
This game is weird. I'm not getting very strong vibes from anyone.
Felice AKA Maria
So, Vanders; I believe he was a villager or possibly evil but not GS because he was here before dusk and if he'd been GS I don't believe he would have left us without a claim.

I think it's possible that zd could have been seer.
Dake Jimson
so we have a priest off with agreeing priests.

we do lynch in there? probably not? fine.

vand was villager.

zd00 was something.

we have an unopposed seer in smug (potentially speaks to a sorc-zd00)

so we have silver/murph/felice in a lynch pool today, i'd say.

i don't feel inclined to give murph much for the seer bluff. could be anything. he's a tough read. silver's tone toward me when asking about my read of the situation felt combative. it's really the only sniff of a read i have today. i thought felice was good yesterday and continue to today.

i don't really care about which priest i believe yet.

Smugvid wrote:

SerWave wrote:

Murphy is the sorc it seems.

I'm the priest. Vanders was a villager.

Initial guess is Dake was saved without a claim so may be a wolf.

Getting ready for work now, will finish catching up a little later this morning.


If Murph is Sorc, then you also disbelieve my clear of Dake?


I didn't read it at the time of my post, was just catching up. See my later posts.
Felice AKA Maria
vote lj maybe
Dake Jimson

Felice Si wrote:

So, Vanders; I believe he was a villager or possibly evil but not GS because he was here before dusk and if he'd been GS I don't believe he would have left us without a claim.

I think it's possible that zd could have been seer.


since both priests agree that vanders was vill i'm inclined to take it as gospel.
Dake Jimson

Felice Si wrote:

vote lj maybe


i don't think voting in the priests gets us anywhere today.

i think our lynch pool today is felice/murph/silver.

just my opinion.
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Vote Tally:
silverbonds - 3 - Dake (5), SerWave (6), ljtrigirl (7)
SerWave - 2 - dbmurph22 (1), ljtrigirl (2) , silverbonds (3), Felice Si (4)
ljtrigirl - 1 - Felice Si (8)
Not voting: Smugvid

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Current Claims:
dbmurph22 - Seer
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - Seer, Murph N0, Dake N1 no hits
Felice Si - huntillager
silverbonds - villager
ljtrigirl - huntillager

Smugvid wrote:

So me and Ser are no uncountered?

I didn't really believe Ser's claim. If he's a Wolf, he presumably believes Murph and thinks I'm Sorc (because he would know I'm not Wolf), so knows lj's claim is from a Good seat. And without a Priest counter, he can be that.

Hmm.

More work to do at work, back later.


I'm not following this, but again, read my subsequent posts.
Felice AKA Maria

Dake wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

vote lj maybe


i don't think voting in the priests gets us anywhere today.

i think our lynch pool today is felice/murph/silver.

just my opinion.


She has rescinded that claim.
Dake Jimson

Felice Si wrote:

Dake wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

vote lj maybe


i don't think voting in the priests gets us anywhere today.

i think our lynch pool today is felice/murph/silver.

just my opinion.


She has rescinded that claim.


oh for real? i thought murph rescinded, i didn't know she did.
Dake, LJ pulled out of her priest claim, if I saw correctly.

Wave claiming Priest and accusing me as Sorc was somewhat curious to me as normally it's a Sorc/Seer deal.
Dake Jimson
if lj is just in the pool, i could consider and lj vote. let me recenter here.
Dake Jimson
not sure how i missed that. wtf guys. way to make it seem wicked narrow and then wicked not narrow.
Dake Jimson
this is too fucking open. fuck this.

i've never seen rescinded fake good claims yield so little (not even blaming either of you, i'm just fascinated by it).

Dake wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

vote lj maybe


i don't think voting in the priests gets us anywhere today.

i think our lynch pool today is felice/murph/silver.

just my opinion.


lj looks like she backed off her claim.

I really don't know where to go at the moment. I went from 1 known wolf and 2 possible, to knowing almost nothing. But I do think I believe Smug's seer claim despite it being uncountered? I'll have to go back and reread zd.

So my wolf pool jumped up to 2 wolves in felice, silver, murph, or lj and maybe dake depending on whether or not smug is the real seer.
Dake Jimson
it does beg the question. were the "fake good claims" even meant to accomplish anything? in other words, which one of you is evil?
Dake Jimson
i know that's not the right use of "beg the question" but whatever, man, stop clinging to the past and accept the colloquial use of that phrase, alright?
L Squared

Dake wrote:

so we have a priest off with agreeing priests.

we do lynch in there? probably not? fine.

vand was villager.

zd00 was something.

we have an unopposed seer in smug (potentially speaks to a sorc-zd00)

so we have silver/murph/felice in a lynch pool today, i'd say.

i don't feel inclined to give murph much for the seer bluff. could be anything. he's a tough read. silver's tone toward me when asking about my read of the situation felt combative. it's really the only sniff of a read i have today. i thought felice was good yesterday and continue to today.

i don't really care about which priest i believe yet.


No, we don't. Both murph and I have retracted, so it's just Ser and Smug with claims on the table.
L Squared

Felice Si wrote:

vote lj maybe


Why?
L Squared

Dake wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

vote lj maybe


i don't think voting in the priests gets us anywhere today.

i think our lynch pool today is felice/murph/silver.

just my opinion.


Murph is seer cleared.
L Squared

Dake wrote:

if lj is just in the pool, i could consider and lj vote. let me recenter here.


Why?
Dake Jimson
guys, i think i might have made a mistake.

looks like lj rescinded. good thing i looked back a few pages.

why did you guys let me spin my wheels on that?
Dake Jimson

ljtrigirl wrote:

Dake wrote:

if lj is just in the pool, i could consider and lj vote. let me recenter here.


Why?


i'm recentering! and you're a comfy stop on the way.

honestly because you scare me. i liked when you were tied up in a claim i didn't super care about yet.
L Squared

Dake wrote:

it does beg the question. were the "fake good claims" even meant to accomplish anything? in other words, which one of you is evil?


Well, I think there's a slight chance murph is sorc, but it's not at the top of my list for him. He's cleared by Smug.

I believe Ser now where I don't think I would have believed a straight up priest claim from him otherwise, so it at least accomplished something for me.
Dake Jimson
murph and lj as wolves is a fun world to ponder. they fucking would do this.
L Squared

Dake wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Dake wrote:

if lj is just in the pool, i could consider and lj vote. let me recenter here.


Why?


i'm recentering! and you're a comfy stop on the way.

honestly because you scare me. i liked when you were tied up in a claim i didn't super care about yet.


That's not a good reason!
Dake Jimson
i still like a silver vote here for now. gotta get to some real work now.
Dake Jimson

ljtrigirl wrote:

Dake wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Dake wrote:

if lj is just in the pool, i could consider and lj vote. let me recenter here.


Why?


i'm recentering! and you're a comfy stop on the way.

honestly because you scare me. i liked when you were tied up in a claim i didn't super care about yet.


That's not a good reason!


it's a fine reason, are you serious? you're too good for your own good, lj. get used to it.

Dake wrote:

guys, i think i might have made a mistake.

looks like lj rescinded. good thing i looked back a few pages.

why did you guys let me spin my wheels on that?


I responded as soon as I realized it was happening and came back to the thread.
L Squared

Dake wrote:

murph and lj as wolves is a fun world to ponder. they fucking would do this.


But, we wouldn't retract because we had that shit on lockdown if it was fake. Like, I can see a world where evil!murph would retract there after I had, but I definitely wouldn't if I was evil regardless of murph because of how many people were on Ser.

ljtrigirl wrote:

Dake wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Dake wrote:

if lj is just in the pool, i could consider and lj vote. let me recenter here.


Why?


i'm recentering! and you're a comfy stop on the way.

honestly because you scare me. i liked when you were tied up in a claim i didn't super care about yet.


That's not a good reason!


He originally said "consider", which is quite reasonable. I feel existence in the game without anything ruling them out is a good reason to consider anyone for a vote.
Dake Jimson

ljtrigirl wrote:

Dake wrote:

murph and lj as wolves is a fun world to ponder. they fucking would do this.


But, we wouldn't retract because we had that shit on lockdown if it was fake. Like, I can see a world where evil!murph would retract there after I had, but I definitely wouldn't if I was evil regardless of murph because of how many people were on Ser.


i was ready to pivot right over to smug's world had you both kept your shit.
L Squared

Dake wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Dake wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Dake wrote:

if lj is just in the pool, i could consider and lj vote. let me recenter here.


Why?


i'm recentering! and you're a comfy stop on the way.

honestly because you scare me. i liked when you were tied up in a claim i didn't super care about yet.


That's not a good reason!


it's a fine reason, are you serious? you're too good for your own good, lj. get used to it.


Yes! Because evil!me wouldn't play the way I have this game. yuk
Dake Jimson

dbmurph22 wrote:

Dake wrote:

guys, i think i might have made a mistake.

looks like lj rescinded. good thing i looked back a few pages.

why did you guys let me spin my wheels on that?


I responded as soon as I realized it was happening and came back to the thread.


i was making a joke. i was worried it was too dry to land.

all living players told me about lj rescinding.
L Squared

Dake wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Dake wrote:

murph and lj as wolves is a fun world to ponder. they fucking would do this.


But, we wouldn't retract because we had that shit on lockdown if it was fake. Like, I can see a world where evil!murph would retract there after I had, but I definitely wouldn't if I was evil regardless of murph because of how many people were on Ser.


i was ready to pivot right over to smug's world had you both kept your shit.


Yeah, but you were irrelevant to that scenario because you weren't bought into it, unlike Felice and silver.
Dake Jimson

ljtrigirl wrote:

Dake wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Dake wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Dake wrote:

if lj is just in the pool, i could consider and lj vote. let me recenter here.


Why?


i'm recentering! and you're a comfy stop on the way.

honestly because you scare me. i liked when you were tied up in a claim i didn't super care about yet.


That's not a good reason!


it's a fine reason, are you serious? you're too good for your own good, lj. get used to it.


Yes! Because evil!me wouldn't play the way I have this game. yuk


oh man, i love that reasoning.
A lot of people believed my claim on Ser which in some way feels like there's some artifice in there because it can't quite be that convincing. Though maybe some people were faking with me to play it up for the play's sake.
L Squared

dbmurph22 wrote:

A lot of people believed my claim on Ser which in some way feels like there's some artifice in there because it can't quite be that convincing. Though maybe some people were faking with me to play it up for the play's sake.


Right? Like there's definitely something there. I kinda feel like silver is evil but felice might not be, but then the worlds don't match up because the pool doesn't fit another wolf.

I could maybe see a Ser/silver team, but I don't know if I believe that Ser would claim Priest there if he was a wolf. I kinda lean towards no, which means that Smug isn't legit.
L Squared
Regardless, I like a silver lynch today.
Dake Jimson

ljtrigirl wrote:

Regardless, I like a silver lynch today.


yeah, me too.
Dake Jimson
did silver officially claim huntillager?
Felice AKA Maria

dbmurph22 wrote:

A lot of people believed my claim on Ser which in some way feels like there's some artifice in there because it can't quite be that convincing. Though maybe some people were faking with me to play it up for the play's sake.


I simply found you believable as seer and had my early evil read on Smug, and no evil pings from you, add to that no strong read on Ser and sometimes games can just be as simple as they seem.
Felice AKA Maria

ljtrigirl wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

vote lj maybe


Why?


Early evil read of you plus rescinded fake claim.....
Felice AKA Maria

ljtrigirl wrote:

dbmurph22 wrote:

A lot of people believed my claim on Ser which in some way feels like there's some artifice in there because it can't quite be that convincing. Though maybe some people were faking with me to play it up for the play's sake.


Right? Like there's definitely something there. I kinda feel like silver is evil but felice might not be, but then the worlds don't match up because the pool doesn't fit another wolf.

I could maybe see a Ser/silver team, but I don't know if I believe that Ser would claim Priest there if he was a wolf. I kinda lean towards no, which means that Smug isn't legit.


Why is Smug not legit seer if Ser is a priest?
Dave ??arski-Riley

Dake wrote:

so we have a priest off with agreeing priests.

we do lynch in there? probably not? fine.

vand was villager.

zd00 was something.

we have an unopposed seer in smug (potentially speaks to a sorc-zd00)

so we have silver/murph/felice in a lynch pool today, i'd say.

i don't feel inclined to give murph much for the seer bluff. could be anything. he's a tough read. silver's tone toward me when asking about my read of the situation felt combative. it's really the only sniff of a read i have today. i thought felice was good yesterday and continue to today.

i don't really care about which priest i believe yet.


Accepting me as Seer gives Murph as not Wolf and likely Good.
Dake Jimson
now zd00 can be things and it's all just much more shitty.
Felice AKA Maria
LJ sounds much better today. Who do I want to vote now..... goo
Dave ??arski-Riley

ljtrigirl wrote:

dbmurph22 wrote:

A lot of people believed my claim on Ser which in some way feels like there's some artifice in there because it can't quite be that convincing. Though maybe some people were faking with me to play it up for the play's sake.


Right? Like there's definitely something there. I kinda feel like silver is evil but felice might not be, but then the worlds don't match up because the pool doesn't fit another wolf.

I could maybe see a Ser/silver team, but I don't know if I believe that Ser would claim Priest there if he was a wolf. I kinda lean towards no, which means that Smug isn't legit.


How does that make me not legit? I haven't cleared either of them.
Dake Jimson

Felice Si wrote:

LJ sounds much better today. Who do I want to vote now.....goo


your only other choice is silver really. unless you want to vote a claim or one of smug's clears.

i am voting silver.
L Squared

Felice Si wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

dbmurph22 wrote:

A lot of people believed my claim on Ser which in some way feels like there's some artifice in there because it can't quite be that convincing. Though maybe some people were faking with me to play it up for the play's sake.


Right? Like there's definitely something there. I kinda feel like silver is evil but felice might not be, but then the worlds don't match up because the pool doesn't fit another wolf.

I could maybe see a Ser/silver team, but I don't know if I believe that Ser would claim Priest there if he was a wolf. I kinda lean towards no, which means that Smug isn't legit.


Why is Smug not legit seer if Ser is a priest?


If you're good (which is where I'm currently leaning), there are no spots left for a second wolf. Because Ser, you, me, and silver are the only non-clears.
L Squared
I don't think zd was Seer. He might have been Priest? I definitely think he was something, which means Sorc or Priest.
L Squared
Like, if Ser and Smug are both legit, that would make the wolf team Felice and silver, which doesn't feel right to me.
Felice AKA Maria

modkiwi wrote:

Vote Tally:
silverbonds - 3 - Dake (5), SerWave (6), ljtrigirl (7)
SerWave - 2 - dbmurph22 (1), ljtrigirl (2) , silverbonds (3), Felice Si (4)
ljtrigirl - 1 - Felice Si (8)
Not voting: Smugvid

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Current Claims:
dbmurph22 - Seer
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - Seer, Murph N0, Dake N1 no hits
Felice Si - huntillager
silverbonds - villager
ljtrigirl - huntillager


Is this the last tally? I think it is. I clicked on that link to check but it didn't seem to do anything.
Felice AKA Maria

ljtrigirl wrote:

Like, if Ser and Smug are both legit, that would make the wolf team Felice and silver, which doesn't feel right to me.


Maybe the wolves are Silver and LJ.... whistle
Tokah

Dake wrote:

i know that's not the right use of "beg the question" but whatever, man, stop clinging to the past and accept the colloquial use of that phrase, alright?


I internally cringe and have to re-translate, but generally succeed in not saying anything out loud.
Dake Jimson

TFang wrote:

Dake wrote:

i know that's not the right use of "beg the question" but whatever, man, stop clinging to the past and accept the colloquial use of that phrase, alright?


I internally cringe and have to re-translate, but generally succeed in not saying anything out loud.


Tokah

Felice Si wrote:

modkiwi wrote:

Vote Tally:
silverbonds - 3 - Dake (5), SerWave (6), ljtrigirl (7)
SerWave - 2 - dbmurph22 (1), ljtrigirl (2) , silverbonds (3), Felice Si (4)
ljtrigirl - 1 - Felice Si (8)
Not voting: Smugvid

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Current Claims:
dbmurph22 - Seer
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - Seer, Murph N0, Dake N1 no hits
Felice Si - huntillager
silverbonds - villager
ljtrigirl - huntillager


Is this the last tally? I think it is. I clicked on that link to check but it didn't seem to do anything.


I believe so, it has the last vote I checked landed in it.
Felice AKA Maria

ljtrigirl wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

dbmurph22 wrote:

A lot of people believed my claim on Ser which in some way feels like there's some artifice in there because it can't quite be that convincing. Though maybe some people were faking with me to play it up for the play's sake.


Right? Like there's definitely something there. I kinda feel like silver is evil but felice might not be, but then the worlds don't match up because the pool doesn't fit another wolf.

I could maybe see a Ser/silver team, but I don't know if I believe that Ser would claim Priest there if he was a wolf. I kinda lean towards no, which means that Smug isn't legit.


Why is Smug not legit seer if Ser is a priest?


If you're good (which is where I'm currently leaning), there are no spots left for a second wolf. Because Ser, you, me, and silver are the only non-clears.


I see what you're saying. Needed to look at the list. I don't see why zd couldn't have been the seer. Obviously the wolves thought he was. ....
Dave ??arski-Riley
I can kind of buy Silver's read of me, because she always gets me wrong. She did seem super happy to ride the Ser train home though, so I don't believe Ser/Silver as Wolves. I think if Murph had held his claim, Silver wouldn't have moved. Maybe a Wolf who just wants to ride a miskill home?

Felice vaguely seemed Evil on D1, but I think I always read Felice as Evil. She seems like she's working today though.

Dake and Murph aren't Wolves regardless, so are pointless votes for me.

I don't know why LJ thinks Ser is likely Good for claiming Priest. If Ser is Evil and thinks he might have a hit on him, and there are two Seers out there, he is pretty much destined to claim Priest. And claiming the same view offers the Village no help. This is why I can see Evil Ser and feel a bit torn on LJ. LJ - can you explain your thinking here?
Felice AKA Maria
Donde esta plata?
Can't fight the feeling that there was an evil on Vanders D1. I really hated the way that lynch went down.

Vote lj until I can make more sense of D2.
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
SerWave - 2 - dbmurph22 (1), ljtrigirl (2) , silverbonds (3), Felice Si (4)
silverbonds - 2 - Dake (5), SerWave (6) , ljtrigirl (7)
ljtrigirl - 2 - Felice Si (8), SerWave (9)
Not voting: Smugvid

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Current Claims:
dbmurph22 - Seer
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - Seer, Murph N0, Dake N1 no hits
Felice Si - huntillager
silverbonds - villager
ljtrigirl - huntillager
Dave ??arski-Riley
vote LJ?
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
ljtrigirl - 3 - Felice Si (8), SerWave (9), Smugvid (10)
SerWave - 2 - dbmurph22 (1), ljtrigirl (2) , silverbonds (3), Felice Si (4)
silverbonds - 2 - Dake (5), SerWave (6) , ljtrigirl (7)
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Current Claims:
dbmurph22 - Seer
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - Seer, Murph N0, Dake N1 no hits
Felice Si - huntillager
silverbonds - villager
ljtrigirl - huntillager
Felice AKA Maria
... interesting.....
Dave ??arski-Riley

modkiwi wrote:

Vote Tally:
Vanderscamp - 3 - Dake (10) , Dake (11), ljtrigirl (13), zd00 (14)
Dake - 3 - SerWave (3), Felice Si (4) , Vanderscamp (7), silverbonds (16), Smugvid (17)
silverbonds - 2 - SerWave (2) , dbmurph22 (18), Smugvid (19)
Smugvid - 1 - silverbonds (6) , Felice Si (9)
zd00 - 0 - Smugvid (8) , dbmurph22 (12)
dbmurph22 - 0 - SerWave (1) , ljtrigirl (5)
ljtrigirl - 0 - Smugvid (15)
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TSW, which I acknowledge is a brutish tool, certainly does point to Ser and Silver not being Wolves together again.

I know that Dake and zd were/are not Wolves. Only if zd was Priest was Van possibly a Wolf, but then he just didn't claim, which seems unlikely.

If I trust in my belief that Felice is good, LJ kind of has to be Evil, from how I'm reading the game. So, I'm happy voting there.
I can see the D2 claim and rescinding from lj as good, but it feels a bit like evil backtracking once the world got narrowed too much?
Dake Jimson

SerWave wrote:

Can't fight the feeling that there was an evil on Vanders D1. I really hated the way that lynch went down.

Vote lj until I can make more sense of D2.


what was so bad about the vanders lynch?
L Squared

Smugvid wrote:

I can kind of buy Silver's read of me, because she always gets me wrong. She did seem super happy to ride the Ser train home though, so I don't believe Ser/Silver as Wolves. I think if Murph had held his claim, Silver wouldn't have moved. Maybe a Wolf who just wants to ride a miskill home?

Felice vaguely seemed Evil on D1, but I think I always read Felice as Evil. She seems like she's working today though.

Dake and Murph aren't Wolves regardless, so are pointless votes for me.

I don't know why LJ thinks Ser is likely Good for claiming Priest. If Ser is Evil and thinks he might have a hit on him, and there are two Seers out there, he is pretty much destined to claim Priest. And claiming the same view offers the Village no help. This is why I can see Evil Ser and feel a bit torn on LJ. LJ - can you explain your thinking here?


Not really. I just don't think the Ser would do that. He seemed to really hate fake claims in the last niner, and I don't think he'd try for a priest claim when there was a seer hit on him and a priest claim already on the table. It just feels like a super weird play for a new person to make.
L Squared
Holy shit.
L Squared

SerWave wrote:

Can't fight the feeling that there was an evil on Vanders D1. I really hated the way that lynch went down.

Vote lj until I can make more sense of D2.


Why do you think that I'd be evil on that lynch? I was a super early vote and never made it back to see vanders post anything.

Do you believe Smug?
L Squared

Smugvid wrote:

modkiwi wrote:

Vote Tally:
Vanderscamp - 3 - Dake (10) , Dake (11), ljtrigirl (13), zd00 (14)
Dake - 3 - SerWave (3), Felice Si (4) , Vanderscamp (7), silverbonds (16), Smugvid (17)
silverbonds - 2 - SerWave (2) , dbmurph22 (18), Smugvid (19)
Smugvid - 1 - silverbonds (6) , Felice Si (9)
zd00 - 0 - Smugvid (8) , dbmurph22 (12)
dbmurph22 - 0 - SerWave (1) , ljtrigirl (5)
ljtrigirl - 0 - Smugvid (15)
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TSW, which I acknowledge is a brutish tool, certainly does point to Ser and Silver not being Wolves together again.

I know that Dake and zd were/are not Wolves. Only if zd was Priest was Van possibly a Wolf, but then he just didn't claim, which seems unlikely.

If I trust in my belief that Felice is good, LJ kind of has to be Evil, from how I'm reading the game. So, I'm happy voting there.


Dude. No one is trying to sell a Ser/silver world.

Why do aren't you voting silver?
L Squared

SerWave wrote:

I can see the D2 claim and rescinding from lj as good, but it feels a bit like evil backtracking once the world got narrowed too much?


How did the world get narrowed when I could have continued to sell that you were evil and had enough people believe it to get you lynched? That's what I seriously don't understand about how many people are voting me right now. Like, I don't ever back down from there with the thread temperament the way it was if I'm evil. Easy mislynch on Ser for the win.
Felice AKA Maria
This game is crazy.... vote silver I think I'm starting to believe Smug and doubt Ser.
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
silverbonds - 3 - Dake (5), SerWave (6) , ljtrigirl (7), Felice Si (11)
SerWave - 2 - dbmurph22 (1), ljtrigirl (2) , silverbonds (3), Felice Si (4)
ljtrigirl - 2 - Felice Si (8) , SerWave (9), Smugvid (10)
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Current Claims:
dbmurph22 - Seer
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - Seer, Murph N0, Dake N1 no hits
Felice Si - huntillager
silverbonds - villager
ljtrigirl - huntillager

ljtrigirl wrote:

SerWave wrote:

I can see the D2 claim and rescinding from lj as good, but it feels a bit like evil backtracking once the world got narrowed too much?


How did the world get narrowed when I could have continued to sell that you were evil and had enough people believe it to get you lynched? That's what I seriously don't understand about how many people are voting me right now. Like, I don't ever back down from there with the thread temperament the way it was if I'm evil. Easy mislynch on Ser for the win.


Because it was unlikely anyone was going to vote into the claims at the end of the day. So we basically had Dake, Felice, and Silver as possible lynch candidates. With Dake being half cleared, it was most likely going to come down to Silver and Felice. If you are a wolf and one of them is your wolf partner, it doesn't look good for team evil.

Dake wrote:

SerWave wrote:

Can't fight the feeling that there was an evil on Vanders D1. I really hated the way that lynch went down.

Vote lj until I can make more sense of D2.


what was so bad about the vanders lynch?


He wasn't around, wasn't going to claim. I didn't get how him sitting up in LL most of the day helped us at all.

ljtrigirl wrote:

SerWave wrote:

Can't fight the feeling that there was an evil on Vanders D1. I really hated the way that lynch went down.

Vote lj until I can make more sense of D2.


Why do you think that I'd be evil on that lynch? I was a super early vote and never made it back to see vanders post anything.

Do you believe Smug?


His seer claim? Sort of. I read him best on D1, but I'm not 100% sold on D2 so far.
Felice AKA Maria

SerWave wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

SerWave wrote:

I can see the D2 claim and rescinding from lj as good, but it feels a bit like evil backtracking once the world got narrowed too much?


How did the world get narrowed when I could have continued to sell that you were evil and had enough people believe it to get you lynched? That's what I seriously don't understand about how many people are voting me right now. Like, I don't ever back down from there with the thread temperament the way it was if I'm evil. Easy mislynch on Ser for the win.


Because it was unlikely anyone was going to vote into the claims at the end of the day. So we basically had Dake, Felice, and Silver as possible lynch candidates. With Dake being half cleared, it was most likely going to come down to Silver and Felice. If you are a wolf and one of them is your wolf partner, it doesn't look good for team evil.


But LJ rescinded before Murph did. If it was the other way around it would be more suspect but why rescind when Murph still has a claimed wolf hit on you and you're in LL?
Dake Jimson

dbmurph22 wrote:

I refuse to vote for Dake or Vanders. So deal with it.


i feel like murph is definitely good.

Felice Si wrote:

SerWave wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

SerWave wrote:

I can see the D2 claim and rescinding from lj as good, but it feels a bit like evil backtracking once the world got narrowed too much?


How did the world get narrowed when I could have continued to sell that you were evil and had enough people believe it to get you lynched? That's what I seriously don't understand about how many people are voting me right now. Like, I don't ever back down from there with the thread temperament the way it was if I'm evil. Easy mislynch on Ser for the win.


Because it was unlikely anyone was going to vote into the claims at the end of the day. So we basically had Dake, Felice, and Silver as possible lynch candidates. With Dake being half cleared, it was most likely going to come down to Silver and Felice. If you are a wolf and one of them is your wolf partner, it doesn't look good for team evil.


But LJ rescinded before Murph did. If it was the other way around it would be more suspect but why rescind when Murph still has a claimed wolf hit on you and you're in LL?


Because it was unlikely anyone was going to vote into the claims at the end of the day.
Felice AKA Maria

SerWave wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

SerWave wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

SerWave wrote:

I can see the D2 claim and rescinding from lj as good, but it feels a bit like evil backtracking once the world got narrowed too much?


How did the world get narrowed when I could have continued to sell that you were evil and had enough people believe it to get you lynched? That's what I seriously don't understand about how many people are voting me right now. Like, I don't ever back down from there with the thread temperament the way it was if I'm evil. Easy mislynch on Ser for the win.


Because it was unlikely anyone was going to vote into the claims at the end of the day. So we basically had Dake, Felice, and Silver as possible lynch candidates. With Dake being half cleared, it was most likely going to come down to Silver and Felice. If you are a wolf and one of them is your wolf partner, it doesn't look good for team evil.


But LJ rescinded before Murph did. If it was the other way around it would be more suspect but why rescind when Murph still has a claimed wolf hit on you and you're in LL?


Because it was unlikely anyone was going to vote into the claims at the end of the day.


ummmm, no. We were voting the hit. If Murph had maintained his claim, I'd probably still vote the hit.
Dake Jimson
i just re-read the retractions. i don't know why i missed lj's on first go through. anyway, yes, the timing of hers makes her look good. i also am fine with her reasoning for the fakey.

lj checks out.
Dake Jimson

Felice Si wrote:

SerWave wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

SerWave wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

SerWave wrote:

I can see the D2 claim and rescinding from lj as good, but it feels a bit like evil backtracking once the world got narrowed too much?


How did the world get narrowed when I could have continued to sell that you were evil and had enough people believe it to get you lynched? That's what I seriously don't understand about how many people are voting me right now. Like, I don't ever back down from there with the thread temperament the way it was if I'm evil. Easy mislynch on Ser for the win.


Because it was unlikely anyone was going to vote into the claims at the end of the day. So we basically had Dake, Felice, and Silver as possible lynch candidates. With Dake being half cleared, it was most likely going to come down to Silver and Felice. If you are a wolf and one of them is your wolf partner, it doesn't look good for team evil.


But LJ rescinded before Murph did. If it was the other way around it would be more suspect but why rescind when Murph still has a claimed wolf hit on you and you're in LL?


Because it was unlikely anyone was going to vote into the claims at the end of the day.


ummmm, no. We were voting the hit. If Murph had maintained his claim, I'd probably still vote the hit.


if everything stayed the same, i would have been very loud and annoying that serwave was a really risky lynch. it would have been. if the claims stuck, the smart lynch would have been in felice/silver.
Dake Jimson
i am increasingly fine with this silver vote.
L Squared

SerWave wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

SerWave wrote:

I can see the D2 claim and rescinding from lj as good, but it feels a bit like evil backtracking once the world got narrowed too much?


How did the world get narrowed when I could have continued to sell that you were evil and had enough people believe it to get you lynched? That's what I seriously don't understand about how many people are voting me right now. Like, I don't ever back down from there with the thread temperament the way it was if I'm evil. Easy mislynch on Ser for the win.


Because it was unlikely anyone was going to vote into the claims at the end of the day. So we basically had Dake, Felice, and Silver as possible lynch candidates. With Dake being half cleared, it was most likely going to come down to Silver and Felice. If you are a wolf and one of them is your wolf partner, it doesn't look good for team evil.


That's like not at all true. People would definitely vote into the claims when it was possible that all living evils were caught up with them, especially with both priests saying that Vanders was good because that made it must lynch.

Felice Si wrote:

SerWave wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

SerWave wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

SerWave wrote:

I can see the D2 claim and rescinding from lj as good, but it feels a bit like evil backtracking once the world got narrowed too much?


How did the world get narrowed when I could have continued to sell that you were evil and had enough people believe it to get you lynched? That's what I seriously don't understand about how many people are voting me right now. Like, I don't ever back down from there with the thread temperament the way it was if I'm evil. Easy mislynch on Ser for the win.


Because it was unlikely anyone was going to vote into the claims at the end of the day. So we basically had Dake, Felice, and Silver as possible lynch candidates. With Dake being half cleared, it was most likely going to come down to Silver and Felice. If you are a wolf and one of them is your wolf partner, it doesn't look good for team evil.


But LJ rescinded before Murph did. If it was the other way around it would be more suspect but why rescind when Murph still has a claimed wolf hit on you and you're in LL?


Because it was unlikely anyone was going to vote into the claims at the end of the day.


ummmm, no. We were voting the hit. If Murph had maintained his claim, I'd probably still vote the hit.


That seems like way too comfortable of a position to take if you're good
Dake Jimson
i'm going to agree with wave on this one. i think once the dust settled, felice/silver would have been the sensible pool that emerged.
L Squared
Now I'm even more torn about Ser. His steadfast belief that he wouldn't have been lynched kinda feels like actual GS not understanding why people wouldn't believe him. But I could also see it as Ser assuming people would give him a day.

I feel like I'm almost disclaiming this in case he turns out evil and I feel like an idiot, but I do think he's good.
L Squared

Dake wrote:

i'm going to agree with wave on this one. i think once the dust settled, felice/silver would have been the sensible pool that emerged.


Really? Why? It'd be must lynch with two evils locked into claims. That's like always a claimant lynch on D2 in Niners.
Dake Jimson

ljtrigirl wrote:

Dake wrote:

i'm going to agree with wave on this one. i think once the dust settled, felice/silver would have been the sensible pool that emerged.


Really? Why? It'd be must lynch with two evils locked into claims. That's like always a claimant lynch on D2 in Niners.


it risks nothing and offers the same odds of success.
Dake Jimson
personally, i felt i had a solid read on felice, so was very comfortable with it. no need to mess with claims when you have a 50/50 in the huntillager pool.
I have this game completely figured out.
L Squared

Dake wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Dake wrote:

i'm going to agree with wave on this one. i think once the dust settled, felice/silver would have been the sensible pool that emerged.


Really? Why? It'd be must lynch with two evils locked into claims. That's like always a claimant lynch on D2 in Niners.


it risks nothing and offers the same odds of success.


Only if Smug is legit. If murph is real, which at least some people believed, then the pool isn't nearly that small.
So we just have one Priest and one Seer claim?

And the Priest claims Vanders = villager.

zd00 is unknown.
Dake Jimson

dbmurph22 wrote:

So we just have one Priest and one Seer claim?

And the Priest claims Vanders = villager.

zd00 is unknown.


all true things.
Felice AKA Maria

dbmurph22 wrote:

So we just have one Priest and one Seer claim?

And the Priest claims Vanders = villager.

zd00 is unknown.


and the seer claims you and Dake are not wolves.
Felice AKA Maria
Maybe Vanders was a wolf. His little 'don't kill me' plea had a bit of the GS softing about it and yet he didn't claim anything. Why not claim villager so we would have his claim?
L Squared

Felice Si wrote:

Maybe Vanders was a wolf. His little 'don't kill me' plea had a bit of the GS softing about it and yet he didn't claim anything. Why not claim villager so we would have his claim?


I think he'd be more likely to do that as a GS than evil.
Felice AKA Maria

ljtrigirl wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

Maybe Vanders was a wolf. His little 'don't kill me' plea had a bit of the GS softing about it and yet he didn't claim anything. Why not claim villager so we would have his claim?


I think he'd be more likely to do that as a GS than evil.


But not give us a claim to work with in a no reveal game?
L Squared

Felice Si wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

Maybe Vanders was a wolf. His little 'don't kill me' plea had a bit of the GS softing about it and yet he didn't claim anything. Why not claim villager so we would have his claim?


I think he'd be more likely to do that as a GS than evil.


But not give us a claim to work with in a no reveal game?


Yep. I mean, I think he's a villager, but I think he'd be more likely to hope that someone would vote Dake if he didn't claim and just say fuck it. I think he'd fake claim something if evil. He likes being evil.
Dake Jimson
i lean mostly toward villager with the way he handled LL.

Felice Si wrote:

Maybe Vanders was a wolf. His little 'don't kill me' plea had a bit of the GS softing about it and yet he didn't claim anything. Why not claim villager so we would have his claim?


If Vanders was a wolf, then Wave is a wolf and he could only snugly fit into Priest claim if zdoo was Priest. Otherwise it would be a sticky either or on a claim that normally a Sorc doesn't make.

dbmurph22 wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

Maybe Vanders was a wolf. His little 'don't kill me' plea had a bit of the GS softing about it and yet he didn't claim anything. Why not claim villager so we would have his claim?


If Vanders was a wolf, then Wave is a wolf and he could only snugly fit into Priest claim if zdoo was Priest. Otherwise it would be a sticky either or on a claim that normally a Sorc doesn't make.


But, then again I did claim Seer with him as wolf so maybe he felt stuck.
Dave ??arski-Riley

ljtrigirl wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

I can kind of buy Silver's read of me, because she always gets me wrong. She did seem super happy to ride the Ser train home though, so I don't believe Ser/Silver as Wolves. I think if Murph had held his claim, Silver wouldn't have moved. Maybe a Wolf who just wants to ride a miskill home?

Felice vaguely seemed Evil on D1, but I think I always read Felice as Evil. She seems like she's working today though.

Dake and Murph aren't Wolves regardless, so are pointless votes for me.

I don't know why LJ thinks Ser is likely Good for claiming Priest. If Ser is Evil and thinks he might have a hit on him, and there are two Seers out there, he is pretty much destined to claim Priest. And claiming the same view offers the Village no help. This is why I can see Evil Ser and feel a bit torn on LJ. LJ - can you explain your thinking here?


Not really. I just don't think the Ser would do that. He seemed to really hate fake claims in the last niner, and I don't think he'd try for a priest claim when there was a seer hit on him and a priest claim already on the table. It just feels like a super weird play for a new person to make.


So you expect Wolf Ser to claim Villager in that instance?

(sorry for absence, I've been out for a run that had a misleading time listed for the start and finish)
Dave ??arski-Riley

ljtrigirl wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

modkiwi wrote:

Vote Tally:
Vanderscamp - 3 - Dake (10) , Dake (11), ljtrigirl (13), zd00 (14)
Dake - 3 - SerWave (3), Felice Si (4) , Vanderscamp (7), silverbonds (16), Smugvid (17)
silverbonds - 2 - SerWave (2) , dbmurph22 (18), Smugvid (19)
Smugvid - 1 - silverbonds (6) , Felice Si (9)
zd00 - 0 - Smugvid (8) , dbmurph22 (12)
dbmurph22 - 0 - SerWave (1) , ljtrigirl (5)
ljtrigirl - 0 - Smugvid (15)
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TSW, which I acknowledge is a brutish tool, certainly does point to Ser and Silver not being Wolves together again.

I know that Dake and zd were/are not Wolves. Only if zd was Priest was Van possibly a Wolf, but then he just didn't claim, which seems unlikely.

If I trust in my belief that Felice is good, LJ kind of has to be Evil, from how I'm reading the game. So, I'm happy voting there.


Dude. No one is trying to sell a Ser/silver world.

Why do aren't you voting silver?


Because I line up Wolf Silver, Ser and Felice as having you as a co-Wolf. And your Ser argument seems really weird to me.
Dave ??arski-Riley
I agree that I don't think Vander goes out like that as Evil.
Vote Silver

A few factors, none of which are amazingly compelling.
Dave ??arski-Riley

dbmurph22 wrote:

dbmurph22 wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

Maybe Vanders was a wolf. His little 'don't kill me' plea had a bit of the GS softing about it and yet he didn't claim anything. Why not claim villager so we would have his claim?


If Vanders was a wolf, then Wave is a wolf and he could only snugly fit into Priest claim if zdoo was Priest. Otherwise it would be a sticky either or on a claim that normally a Sorc doesn't make.


But, then again I did claim Seer with him as wolf so maybe he felt stuck.


I think if he was Sorc and knows he has a fake hit on him, he rides it out as you doing a thing. You're either Good doing a thing or his Wolf, so he doesn't want to shift votes onto you and it's not terrible to just eat the death there.
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Vote Tally:
silverbonds - 4 - Dake (5), SerWave (6) , ljtrigirl (7), Felice Si (11), dbmurph22 (12)
ljtrigirl - 2 - Felice Si (8) , SerWave (9), Smugvid (10)
SerWave - 1 - dbmurph22 (1) , ljtrigirl (2) , silverbonds (3), Felice Si (4)
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Current Claims:
dbmurph22 - Seer
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - Seer, Murph N0, Dake N1 no hits
Felice Si - huntillager
silverbonds - villager
ljtrigirl - huntillager
Dave ??arski-Riley
I think it's either Silver/LJ or Ser/LJ.

Dake, from your POV as stated, you think it's Ser/Silver? Both on you at end D1? I know that's fine, but why are they there?
I'm guessing you don't see Ser/Silver because of her vote on Ser?
Is Silver around today? Would be nice to hear something there following the changes with the claims.
Dave ??arski-Riley

dbmurph22 wrote:

I'm guessing you don't see Ser/Silver because of her vote on Ser?


Largely. I don't think Silver decides just to bus Ser to ultra death and also try and throw heat on the person she believes must be Sorc (which I would be in the scenario that she thought you were the real Seer).
Felice AKA Maria
This is a very frustrating game. It accentuates why I really only like no reveal 9ers as fast games. My mind is also elsewhere ....
Felice AKA Maria
Does Priest zd rep a villager, repping a seer repping villager?
Dake Jimson

Smugvid wrote:

I think it's either Silver/LJ or Ser/LJ.

Dake, from your POV as stated, you think it's Ser/Silver? Both on you at end D1? I know that's fine, but why are they there?


i don't currently lean toward ser as wolf, no.
Dake Jimson
right now, i'm only truly happy with calling silver a wolf.
Dave ??arski-Riley
Felice, do you believe I'm the Seer?
Dave ??arski-Riley

Dake wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

I think it's either Silver/LJ or Ser/LJ.

Dake, from your POV as stated, you think it's Ser/Silver? Both on you at end D1? I know that's fine, but why are they there?


i don't currently lean toward ser as wolf, no.


Okay, it was just with you saying you felt good with LJ and Felice.
Felice AKA Maria

Smugvid wrote:

Felice, do you believe I'm the Seer?


Not entirely.... I think it might have been zd which makes you sorc or wolf.
I've been searching for blank stare pics for about 5-10 mins to best indicate how I feel rather than actually trying to solve the reason for my blank stare - I might have a problem (....but I think it's larger than the the game anyway).
Dave ??arski-Riley

Felice Si wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Felice, do you believe I'm the Seer?


Not entirely.... I think it might have been zd which makes you sorc or wolf.


I'm not sure I would be able to go there with zd continually saying he wasn't the Seer. He knows he can't be Priest viewed if he's NK until too late. But obviously I have my role, which makes it easier.
Dake Jimson

Smugvid wrote:

Dake wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

I think it's either Silver/LJ or Ser/LJ.

Dake, from your POV as stated, you think it's Ser/Silver? Both on you at end D1? I know that's fine, but why are they there?


i don't currently lean toward ser as wolf, no.


Okay, it was just with you saying you felt good with LJ and Felice.


yeah, they do both seem it. but i suppose they can't both be in most sensible worlds.

zd00 being more than villager opens some things up.

silver ends up evil is too many different worlds here.
Dake Jimson

dbmurph22 wrote:

I've been searching for blank stare pics for about 5-10 mins to best indicate how I feel rather than actually trying to solve the reason for my blank stare - I might have a problem (....but I think it's larger than the the game anyway).


this happens. i hate it. you hope that the little fragments of shit collide into some semblance of a world view, but sometimes they just don't.

i think your vote makes sense.
Silver

Smugvid wrote:

Felice and Silver - presumably you guys are claiming Hunter/Villager?

Ser - if you claim Priest here, we're in a bad spot if you're legit.


goes without saying yeah, not going to narrow that pool
Dave ??arski-Riley
Gotta say, I am pleased that I'm so shifty I'm kind of losing a claim war with no-one.
Felice AKA Maria

dbmurph22 wrote:

I've been searching for blank stare pics for about 5-10 mins to best indicate how I feel rather than actually trying to solve the reason for my blank stare - I might have a problem (....but I think it's larger than the the game anyway).


Tokah

modkiwi wrote:

Vote Tally:
silverbonds - 4 - Dake (5), SerWave (6) , ljtrigirl (7), Felice Si (11), dbmurph22 (12)
ljtrigirl - 2 - Felice Si (8) , SerWave (9), Smugvid (10)
SerWave - 1 - dbmurph22 (1) , ljtrigirl (2) , silverbonds (3), Felice Si (4)
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Current Claims:
dbmurph22 - Seer
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - Seer, Murph N0, Dake N1 no hits
Felice Si - huntillager
silverbonds - villager
ljtrigirl - huntillager


This tally is up to date and correct.
Silver

SerWave wrote:

Ok. I skimmed through everything. Saw Smug and lj's claims, which means Dake can't be a wolf but lj must be.

Also, Silver, I was out all weekend starting right at lynch. Had to drive 8 hours and had no wifi all weekend. I usually announce such things but it slipped my mind.

So team evil is Murph - Sorc, LJ - Wolf1, Silver/Felice - Wolf2

I need to do some rereading but gut is vote silver


Dake/ser wolf team

caaaallin it

Felice Si wrote:

dbmurph22 wrote:

I've been searching for blank stare pics for about 5-10 mins to best indicate how I feel rather than actually trying to solve the reason for my blank stare - I might have a problem (....but I think it's larger than the the game anyway).




Good on the confusion, but needs a little more hollow jadedness.

Dake Jimson

silverbonds wrote:

SerWave wrote:

Ok. I skimmed through everything. Saw Smug and lj's claims, which means Dake can't be a wolf but lj must be.

Also, Silver, I was out all weekend starting right at lynch. Had to drive 8 hours and had no wifi all weekend. I usually announce such things but it slipped my mind.

So team evil is Murph - Sorc, LJ - Wolf1, Silver/Felice - Wolf2

I need to do some rereading but gut is vote silver


Dake/ser wolf team

caaaallin it


and zd00 was the seer?
Silver

Dake wrote:

this is too fucking open. fuck this.

i've never seen rescinded fake good claims yield so little (not even blaming either of you, i'm just fascinated by it).


This last page is like

what the hell guys
Felice AKA Maria
Hey, I didn't spend as long looking as you did.
L Squared

Smugvid wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

I can kind of buy Silver's read of me, because she always gets me wrong. She did seem super happy to ride the Ser train home though, so I don't believe Ser/Silver as Wolves. I think if Murph had held his claim, Silver wouldn't have moved. Maybe a Wolf who just wants to ride a miskill home?

Felice vaguely seemed Evil on D1, but I think I always read Felice as Evil. She seems like she's working today though.

Dake and Murph aren't Wolves regardless, so are pointless votes for me.

I don't know why LJ thinks Ser is likely Good for claiming Priest. If Ser is Evil and thinks he might have a hit on him, and there are two Seers out there, he is pretty much destined to claim Priest. And claiming the same view offers the Village no help. This is why I can see Evil Ser and feel a bit torn on LJ. LJ - can you explain your thinking here?


Not really. I just don't think the Ser would do that. He seemed to really hate fake claims in the last niner, and I don't think he'd try for a priest claim when there was a seer hit on him and a priest claim already on the table. It just feels like a super weird play for a new person to make.


So you expect Wolf Ser to claim Villager in that instance?

(sorry for absence, I've been out for a run that had a misleading time listed for the start and finish)


Probably. Or Hunter. Priest is just super weird.
L Squared

Smugvid wrote:

I think it's either Silver/LJ or Ser/LJ.

Dake, from your POV as stated, you think it's Ser/Silver? Both on you at end D1? I know that's fine, but why are they there?


Who is evil if I'm not? Because I'm not, so all of your teams including me is no bueno.
Kind of think we got totally duped, but you know. If you're not 9ered up you're sort of just setting yourself up for embarrassment.
Tokah
dusk

Shh!
Dave ??arski-Riley

ljtrigirl wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

I can kind of buy Silver's read of me, because she always gets me wrong. She did seem super happy to ride the Ser train home though, so I don't believe Ser/Silver as Wolves. I think if Murph had held his claim, Silver wouldn't have moved. Maybe a Wolf who just wants to ride a miskill home?

Felice vaguely seemed Evil on D1, but I think I always read Felice as Evil. She seems like she's working today though.

Dake and Murph aren't Wolves regardless, so are pointless votes for me.

I don't know why LJ thinks Ser is likely Good for claiming Priest. If Ser is Evil and thinks he might have a hit on him, and there are two Seers out there, he is pretty much destined to claim Priest. And claiming the same view offers the Village no help. This is why I can see Evil Ser and feel a bit torn on LJ. LJ - can you explain your thinking here?


Not really. I just don't think the Ser would do that. He seemed to really hate fake claims in the last niner, and I don't think he'd try for a priest claim when there was a seer hit on him and a priest claim already on the table. It just feels like a super weird play for a new person to make.


So you expect Wolf Ser to claim Villager in that instance?

(sorry for absence, I've been out for a run that had a misleading time listed for the start and finish)


Probably. Or Hunter. Priest is just super weird.


Lol, it's probably what I would claim, which is a reason towards me having my rep.
Dake Jimson

silverbonds wrote:

Dake wrote:

this is too fucking open. fuck this.

i've never seen rescinded fake good claims yield so little (not even blaming either of you, i'm just fascinated by it).


This last page is like

what the hell guys


what you mean?
L Squared
If Dake is evil, he's doing a very good job of being in the same headspace as I am. Lol.
Tokah

modkiwi wrote:

Vote Tally:
silverbonds - 4 - Dake (5), SerWave (6) , ljtrigirl (7), Felice Si (11), dbmurph22 (12)
ljtrigirl - 2 - Felice Si (8) , SerWave (9), Smugvid (10)
SerWave - 1 - dbmurph22 (1) , ljtrigirl (2) , silverbonds (3), Felice Si (4)
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Current Claims:
dbmurph22 - Seer
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - Seer, Murph N0, Dake N1 no hits
Felice Si - huntillager
silverbonds - villager
ljtrigirl - huntillager


This is the end of D2 tally.

killed Silverbonds

Orders are due at or before 2:40 pm, no night talk.
Kiwi's ModBot
Current Claims:
dbmurph22 - Seer
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - Seer, Murph N0, Dake N1 no hits
Felice Si - huntillager
ljtrigirl - huntillager
Tokah
Roster

1. LJ
2. SerWave
3. Zd00 - killed n1
4. Murph
5. Silver - killed D2
6. Smug
7. Felice
8. Van - killed D1
9. Dake
Silver

SerWave wrote:

Is Silver around today? Would be nice to hear something there following the changes with the claims.

This game has been so slow that I posted last night thinking I could get away with a productive morning. Nah, when silver's away the train will play.

edit: had my dusk time wrong sorry guys

edit 2: restoring original post for fairness per tok
Tokah
Dawn of D3!

killed dbmurph22

You may post.
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Vote Tally:
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Current Claims:
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - Seer, Murph N0, Dake N1 no hits
Felice Si - huntillager
ljtrigirl - huntillager
Tokah
Roster

1. LJ
2. SerWave
3. Zd00 - killed n1
4. Murph - killed n2
5. Silver - killed D2
6. Smug
7. Felice
8. Van - killed D1
9. Dake
Tokah
Everything should be up to date, if you're missing stuff, please let me know!
Dave ??arski-Riley
Looooooooool

LJ is clear.

So, excepting the scenario where it was Ser and Silver (or bizarre Ser/Van), Felice is a Wolf.

[vote Felice]
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Vote Tally:
Felice Si - 1 - Smugvid (1)
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Current Claims:
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - Seer, Murph N0, Dake N1 no hits
Felice Si - huntillager
ljtrigirl - huntillager
Dave ??arski-Riley
That said, the death of Murph and Felice thinking I am not the Seer points to Felice and Ser as the team. But that's fine.
Dave ??arski-Riley
The looooooooool was at me losing a one person claim war, not at anyone else.
Dave ??arski-Riley

ljtrigirl wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

I think it's either Silver/LJ or Ser/LJ.

Dake, from your POV as stated, you think it's Ser/Silver? Both on you at end D1? I know that's fine, but why are they there?


Who is evil if I'm not? Because I'm not, so all of your teams including me is no bueno.


If I'd had chance to answer this, the answer was Felice. Based on my reading of the game, one of you guys pretty much had to be (unless Van was and zd was Priest).
Dave ??arski-Riley
I kind of hope the lack of anything means we didn't lose yet.
Silver was a wolf.

I can't even begin to digest the choice of nightkill right now, assumed it would be me or smug.

Taking a break to focus on work.
L Squared
What.
L Squared
Someone else claim seer and mean it, please.
Felice AKA Maria
No time. Have a rehearsal to run to for the evening. I think my first instinct on Smug may have been correct. Be back late tonight.
Just realized I screwed up my view. If silver wasn't a wolf, we probably lose anyway.

Should have viewed zd.

I'll be back in the morning with a clearer mind hopefully.
Dave ??arski-Riley

ljtrigirl wrote:

Someone else claim seer and mean it, please.


Because?
Dake Jimson

ljtrigirl wrote:

Someone else claim seer and mean it, please.


i'm the seer.
Dake Jimson
that kill is so odd.
Dake Jimson
we're meant to believe ser is a wolf now, right? was that the idea, wolves?
L Squared

Smugvid wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Someone else claim seer and mean it, please.


Because?


Because I have a hard time believing you.
L Squared

Dake wrote:

we're meant to believe ser is a wolf now, right? was that the idea, wolves?


I don't even know.

The problem is that I could see pretty much everyone but you being evil right now*. Like, there is a world where it's as easy as Felice/silver and Smug is legit. But I just have a really hard time believing that because Smug was trying to pair me with LITERALLY EVERYONE for no reason.

*If you're evil, I'm going to be so pissed.
Felice AKA Maria
So if Ser and Smug are both legit I'm the wolf. Which means one of the two is false. I think it's Smug but sorc or wolf? vote smug
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Felice Si - 1 - Smugvid (1)
Smugvid - 1 - Felice Si (2)
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Current Claims:
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - Seer, Murph N0, Dake N1 no hits
Felice Si - huntillager
ljtrigirl - huntillager
Dave ??arski-Riley

ljtrigirl wrote:

Dake wrote:

we're meant to believe ser is a wolf now, right? was that the idea, wolves?


I don't even know.

The problem is that I could see pretty much everyone but you being evil right now*. Like, there is a world where it's as easy as Felice/silver and Smug is legit. But I just have a really hard time believing that because Smug was trying to pair me with LITERALLY EVERYONE for no reason.

*If you're evil, I'm going to be so pissed.


Not no reason. One of you and Felice had to be a Wolf from my POV, because I didn't believe it was Ser and Silver. And I had a Good read on Felice, so it was you. I viewed you specifically to prevent me messing today up.
Dave ??arski-Riley

ljtrigirl wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Someone else claim seer and mean it, please.


Because?


Because I have a hard time believing you.


When don't people? Sometimes I'm actually going to be a real role and that's part of the gamble of me playing. No-one ever believes me and that's the trip.

I think I'd be a weird Wolf though. I vote zd to put me on his radar and then kill him after acknowledging that he always destroys me as Wolf? I kill Murph, the only dude to counter me in any way? I like a bit of FUD with my kills, but I don't like playing like I'm a level one player, even if I am.

At the moment, if neither Dake or you is Sorc, we're grand, because we can do Felice today and Ser tomorrow and win guaranteed. If one of you is Sorc, then we have to get it right today. Or you can kill me and we lose and I shrug and hope it goes differently next time.
Dave ??arski-Riley
Claim Seer, N0 Murph, N1 Dake and N2 LJ all clear
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Vote Tally:
Felice Si - 1 - Smugvid (1)
Smugvid - 1 - Felice Si (2)
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Current Claims:
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - Seer, N0 Murph, N1 Dake and N2 LJ all clear
Felice Si - huntillager
ljtrigirl - huntillager
Dave ??arski-Riley
Just look at this from my POV and say that you don't think Felice is the best option today.

Dake and LJ - you're reading each other as Good and if you're wrong, then that sucks. I have cleared you both. This lines up.

Unless it's me and Ser and I'm such a terrible Wolf that I counter the Seer who has a hit on my Wolf buddy and then don't tell Ser to NOT counter as Priest OR one of us is Sorc which implies that zd and Vander were both the Priest and Seer, in which case unlucky.

I think it's pretty obvious I'm not with Felice, because, if I were, I don't come out effectively calling a hit on my partner when we need one more death to win.

So you have to believe it's me/Silver or me/Vander if I'm a Wolf. I have no argument against me Vander, but then zd was Seer and it's up to you if you want to buy that. If it's me/Silver, she poured scorn on my Seer claim and I didn't do anything really to campaign against her death. I don't think it's a believable world.

If I'm Sorc, I've not a clue and I'm gambling that one of Dake/LJ is a Wolf while pushing for Ser and Felice to die. That's possible, but in that case, again Zed was Seer and that's for you to convince yourself of.

I think the most believable world is that I'm Seer.

Felice Si wrote:

So if Ser and Smug are both legit I'm the wolf. Which means one of the two is false. I think it's Smug but sorc or wolf? vote smug


I don't think it's likely that smug is a wolf. If he is, who is the sorc? Would think there would have been another claim if there was one alive after D1, which means zd was either sorc or seer.

So that leaves the possibility that Smug is sorc. In that world, his wolf partner would have to be either me, uncounteded priest, or someone he cleared, Dake or lj. Dake is pretty shiny to me after D2, he was all over wolfsilver. I've been kind of on the fence on lj, maybe I can't get the fake claim out of my head, but I have a hard time thinking sorcsmug tries to push wolflj on D2.

I'm starting to find evilsmug world less likely than seersmug at this point, but I'm not exactly sure yet.
Dake Jimson
i'd be more inclined to believe ser is evil than smug.
Dake Jimson
i think felice is a safe lynch today tough, maybe? too early for werewolf math.
Dake Jimson
my felice good read is based on things that are fine for D1 and maybe D2, but D3 you need to start giving some of those D1/D2 good reads another hard look. so that's what i'm doing.
Dave ??arski-Riley

SerWave wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

So if Ser and Smug are both legit I'm the wolf. Which means one of the two is false. I think it's Smug but sorc or wolf? vote smug


I don't think it's likely that smug is a wolf. If he is, who is the sorc? Would think there would have been another claim if there was one alive after D1, which means zd was either sorc or seer.

So that leaves the possibility that Smug is sorc. In that world, his wolf partner would have to be either me, uncounteded priest, or someone he cleared, Dake or lj. Dake is pretty shiny to me after D2, he was all over wolfsilver. I've been kind of on the fence on lj, maybe I can't get the fake claim out of my head, but I have a hard time thinking sorcsmug tries to push wolflj on D2.

I'm starting to find evilsmug world less likely than seersmug at this point, but I'm not exactly sure yet.


Just remember that Sorc doesn't know Wolves in this. It feels like you're thinking that.
L Squared
So, now I'm clear of being a Wolf, I think the Seer should view Dake and we should have close to a math win as long as none of me, Dake, the Seer or the Seer's N0 die. If Dake is the N0 or the Seer, I think we've probably lost.


Smug- what the hell was this about?
L Squared
Smug- Why did you view Dake N1?
L Squared
I think they might have gone hunter hunting? I feel like I remember a game where murph claimed like that as the hunter. Was it recent? Does anyone else remember that? Joke's on them though, because he does that all the time. Even convincingly pulled it off once as the wolf.
L Squared
vote smug
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Smugvid - 2 - Felice Si (2), ljtrigirl (3)
Felice Si - 1 - Smugvid (1)
Not voting: Dake, SerWave

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Current Claims:
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - Seer, N0 Murph, N1 Dake and N2 LJ all clear
Felice Si - huntillager
ljtrigirl - huntillager
L Squared
I don't understand why people aux box GS/seer claims in this set.
L Squared
I think if SerWave is a wolf, it was with Vanders? I can't really make another pair make sense.
Ok. I'm descending into paranoia and it's not getting me anywhere. Going with the most logical choice right now. vote felice
Dake Jimson

ljtrigirl wrote:

So, now I'm clear of being a Wolf, I think the Seer should view Dake and we should have close to a math win as long as none of me, Dake, the Seer or the Seer's N0 die. If Dake is the N0 or the Seer, I think we've probably lost.


Smug- what the hell was this about?


when did smug say this?
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Smugvid - 2 - Felice Si (2), ljtrigirl (3)
Felice Si - 2 - Smugvid (1), SerWave (4)
Not voting: Dake

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Current Claims:
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - Seer, N0 Murph, N1 Dake and N2 LJ all clear
Felice Si - huntillager
ljtrigirl - huntillager
Dake Jimson

ljtrigirl wrote:

I don't understand why people aux box GS/seer claims in this set.


you don't always.

ljtrigirl wrote:

I think they might have gone hunter hunting? I feel like I remember a game where murph claimed like that as the hunter. Was it recent? Does anyone else remember that? Joke's on them though, because he does that all the time. Even convincingly pulled it off once as the wolf.


I think I can agree with you on the hunter hunting, but why does that make smug the vote?

ljtrigirl wrote:

I don't understand why people aux box GS/seer claims in this set.


What does this mean? My noob brain does not comprehend.
Dake Jimson
ugh, i'm not seeing the whole picture very well.

deads:
vanders
zd00
silver
murph

living:
smug - seer
dake - huntillager
lj - huntillager
felice - huntillager
ser - priest

- murph and zd00 are not wolves.
- vanders was a villager per ser (may be false)
- murph rescinded seer. maybe villager, maybe hunter.
- silver seemed like a wolf to me, and i think i'm going to stick with that.

what am i trying to do here? i don't know, this didn't help.
I have a few meetings this morning so have to run. Will be back around noonish.
Dake Jimson

SerWave wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

I don't understand why people aux box GS/seer claims in this set.


What does this mean? My noob brain does not comprehend.


she's asking why people have a tendency to stay away from lynching claims in this set.

i don't think we necessarily do. but there was a point yesterday where i think leaving the 2 claimwars alone made sense. that quickly changed.
Dake Jimson
the murph kill is so perplexing to me. you don't hunter hunt on N2.
L Squared

Dake wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

So, now I'm clear of being a Wolf, I think the Seer should view Dake and we should have close to a math win as long as none of me, Dake, the Seer or the Seer's N0 die. If Dake is the N0 or the Seer, I think we've probably lost.


Smug- what the hell was this about?


when did smug say this?


D1.

I was checking to see if his views checked out. They sort of did? I couldn't find anything to disprove them, but I thought it was weird that he viewed you N1, and that whole thing was just odd.
L Squared

SerWave wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

I think they might have gone hunter hunting? I feel like I remember a game where murph claimed like that as the hunter. Was it recent? Does anyone else remember that? Joke's on them though, because he does that all the time. Even convincingly pulled it off once as the wolf.


I think I can agree with you on the hunter hunting, but why does that make smug the vote?


It doesn't. The fact that I don't believe him makes Smug the vote.
Dake Jimson
lj, was zd00 the seer?
L Squared

SerWave wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

I don't understand why people aux box GS/seer claims in this set.


What does this mean? My noob brain does not comprehend.


You and other people keep saying that Smug is the Sorcerer if he's evil. I think that's wrong. I think there are worlds where he is a wolf. He seemed very keen to keep silver alive yesterday, so I think it's viable that they were partners.
Dake Jimson

ljtrigirl wrote:

SerWave wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

I don't understand why people aux box GS/seer claims in this set.


What does this mean? My noob brain does not comprehend.


You and other people keep saying that Smug is the Sorcerer if he's evil. I think that's wrong. I think there are worlds where he is a wolf. He seemed very keen to keep silver alive yesterday, so I think it's viable that they were partners.


smug was defending silver? i don't recall that. can you pull up a post if you have one handy?
Dake Jimson

Smugvid wrote:

So, now I'm clear of being a Wolf, I think the Seer should view Dake and we should have close to a math win as long as none of me, Dake, the Seer or the Seer's N0 die. If Dake is the N0 or the Seer, I think we've probably lost.


okay, i see this post now. it's kinda way too early to be taken seriously.
Dake Jimson

Felice Si wrote:

I have to say, those last two posts from Smug are the most suspicious looking things I'm seeing. They sound like gymnastics. Overcompensating. Are you the sorc Smuggly bear?
vote smug


this is why i thought felice was good. i felt it was the wrong read, but i felt it was a genuine one.
Dake Jimson

zd00 wrote:

Well I think it's clear that Felice has been chopping up bodies and flushing them down the toilet - so obviously not a wolf, because a wolf would have ate them. Possibly sorc still, but that's small potatoes to me.

This is an attempt at a joke, not a seer hint, unless it should be, but it's not.


hmmmm. triple bluff? if zd00 is the seer, felice is his N0 for sure.
Dake Jimson

dbmurph22 wrote:

Murph - Hunter, Priest, or Sorcerer

Make things a little more interesting I guess.


yeah, this does kinda feel like a murph-hunter thingy.
Dake Jimson

Smugvid wrote:

Man, this is not good.


this is right after you vote me. what isn't good?
L Squared

Dake wrote:

ugh, i'm not seeing the whole picture very well.

deads:
vanders
zd00
silver
murph

living:
smug - seer
dake - huntillager
lj - huntillager
felice - huntillager
ser - priest

- murph and zd00 are not wolves.
- vanders was a villager per ser (may be false)
- murph rescinded seer. maybe villager, maybe hunter.
- silver seemed like a wolf to me, and i think i'm going to stick with that.

what am i trying to do here? i don't know, this didn't help.


SerWave Priest:
Wolf- silver
Wolf/sorc- smug and one in felice/dake/LJ
Seer- zd
Priest- Ser
Villager- Vanders
Huntillager- Murph*
Huntillager- two in felice/dake/LJ

*Very outside case of murph Sorc, but I don't believe in that world

Smug Seer:
Wolf: SerWave (doesn't fit Sorc MO)
Wolf: silver/felice/Vanders
Seer: Smug
Priest: zd/Vanders
Huntillagers and sorc: two of silver/felice/vandersorzd, Dake, LJ, murph

Both legit:
Wolf: silver
Wolf: felice
Sorc: Huntillager claim or zd
Seer: smug
Priest: serwave
Villager: Vanderscamp
Huntillagers: LJ, Dake, Murph


Neither legit:
Evils: Smug, Ser, other?
Priest/Seer: Vanders and zd
Huntillagers: four of LJ/Dake/felice/silver/murph
Dake Jimson

silverbonds wrote:

zd00 wrote:

The smug vote was pretty bad too. "I think he's good, but I'm going to vote there." Ewness.


I said he was excitable. That kind of nervousness of wanting to move things about is something I associate with evil.


we definitely got a wolf.
Dake Jimson

Vanderscamp wrote:

I don't have any reads, sorry.

I will give you more when I'm caught up.


this was AT dusk. this is vanders eating the lynch as a villager. i'm certain of it.
Dake Jimson

Vanderscamp wrote:

Don't kill me please!!


lol, 2 seconds later, still at 2pm. villager.
L Squared
I don't think the world of both or neither make sense. I don't think both makes sense unless zd was Sorc because that'd mean that the Sorc went with a Huntillager claim. I don't think neither makes sense because I think Vanders was a villager.
L Squared
Yeah, I'm pretty sold on:

Vanders- Villager
Murph- Huntillager
silver- Wolf
L Squared

Dake wrote:

lj, was zd00 the seer?


I think he was either Seer or Sorcerer.
Dake Jimson

ljtrigirl wrote:

Yeah, I'm pretty sold on:

Vanders- Villager
Murph- Huntillager
silver- Wolf


yes, i also think this.
L Squared
Based on Smug's claim timing, I think he's either Seer or Sorcerer too. So, I think the two viewing roles are in Smug and zd. I keep going back and forth about which one is which though.

If Smug is the seer, that makes it Felice/silver. If zd is the seer, I think it's silver/Dake? That could explain the lack of a Smug kill.
Dake Jimson
lj, you're not evil, right? can you just tell me the truth?
L Squared

Dake wrote:

lj, you're not evil, right? can you just tell me the truth?


Not evil.

Felice might be the lynch today. :/ I need to re-read her to see if I still feel she can't be evil.
Dake Jimson

ljtrigirl wrote:

Based on Smug's claim timing, I think he's either Seer or Sorcerer too. So, I think the two viewing roles are in Smug and zd. I keep going back and forth about which one is which though.

If Smug is the seer, that makes it Felice/silver. If zd is the seer, I think it's silver/Dake? That could explain the lack of a Smug kill.


that would mean i decided to vote my wolf partner on D2 when nobody else was voting her. maybe.
L Squared
Nope, I still want to lynch Smug. I don't think I believe that Felice is evil.
Dake Jimson
a post has been deleted.
Dake Jimson
if you deleted a post, please don't do that in the future.
Tokah

Dake wrote:

a post has been deleted.


GM me details?
L Squared
Well, I believe firmly that silver was a wolf.

I believe that zd and smug are either seer/evil or sorc/seer. I am comfortable lynching Smug because at the very least, we punt to tomorrow with a NK out of the remaining pool.
Tokah

Dake wrote:

if you deleted a post, please don't do that in the future.


Dake is correct on this btw, deleting posts in WW games isn't allowed.
Dake Jimson

ljtrigirl wrote:

Well, I believe firmly that silver was a wolf.

I believe that zd and smug are either seer/evil or sorc/seer. I am comfortable lynching Smug because at the very least, we punt to tomorrow with a NK out of the remaining pool.


i'm coming around to this. smug is a punty choice, and punting might be smart.
Dake Jimson
smug, what do you think, can we afford to lynch you?
Dave ??arski-Riley

ljtrigirl wrote:

So, now I'm clear of being a Wolf, I think the Seer should view Dake and we should have close to a math win as long as none of me, Dake, the Seer or the Seer's N0 die. If Dake is the N0 or the Seer, I think we've probably lost.


Smug- what the hell was this about?


Ensuring that I didn't die N1. I know it's unlikely that I'll be randomly killed, but I thought I'd do something wacky to ensure that people thought I wasn't not trying to draw attention to myself.
Dave ??arski-Riley

ljtrigirl wrote:

Smug- Why did you view Dake N1?


Like I said, I thought there was no way Dake and Vander were Wolves together, so if Dake was Wolf, a Priest claiming Vander Wolf would be exposed to me. Clearing the person who'd been in 2nd LL is helpful anyway, imo.
Dave ??arski-Riley

Dake wrote:

smug, what do you think, can we afford to lynch you?


Ser/Felice doesn't seem a super clear team, so possibly, but if you or LJ are Sorc, no.

I don't see any reason to vote me, but I guess I should catch up.
Dave ??arski-Riley

Dake wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Man, this is not good.


this is right after you vote me. what isn't good?


You and Van being top of the table, it sucked with AFK Vander and you not being someone I wanted to vote.
Dake Jimson

Smugvid wrote:

Dake wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Man, this is not good.


this is right after you vote me. what isn't good?


You and Van being top of the table, it sucked with AFK Vander and you not being someone I wanted to vote.


yeah, vander is always afk for lynch though, so that doesn't really dissuade me from voting him anymore.
Dave ??arski-Riley
Punting is a bad play imo, but I know I'm Good. I don't really see the benefit. Both Ser and Felice could be a Wolf (or even together), if Ser and Felice are alive tomorrow and Ser says I was Seer, where do you go? In what world does me dying today and Dake dying in the night help us.

It's only helpful to kill me if Dake and LJ are both not Sorc and Felice or Ser kill the other one for no reason. Lynching me is giving Evil a load of opportunity. Don't do it.
Dake Jimson
i really don't know what i believe.
Dake Jimson
smug, who are you voting?
Felice AKA Maria

Dake wrote:

smug, who are you voting?


He's voting me. If Smug is the seer the wolf can only be me or Ser.

I feel exactly the same, Dake. Don't know what to believe. I don't have any strong evil reads now. Everyone seems good but that's obviously not possible. I only know both of Ser and Smug can't be legit, one is evil. Don't believe both could be. The sad thing is if Smug dies today and the game continues then I suppose it will be an F3 of me, you and LJ and that's the stuff of nightmares, especially since I'm reading both of you as good.
Dake Jimson
should we lynch ser? if i believe felice is good, then one of smug/ser is evil. and gun to my head, i believe smug more than ser.
L Squared

Dake wrote:

should we lynch ser? if i believe felice is good, then one of smug/ser is evil. and gun to my head, i believe smug more than ser.


I believe Ser more than Smug.

I just don't believe Smug. Why do you? His views feel constructed, and his agenda yesterday was terribad.
Dake Jimson
when i believed murph had a hit on ser, silver was a reasonable partner, which is why i voted there when there were 2 claim-wars.

so i guess that's maybe my most-likely world.

[vote ser]

with zd00 as priest? but who is the sorc then?

ugh. i hate this game.
Dake Jimson

ljtrigirl wrote:

Dake wrote:

should we lynch ser? if i believe felice is good, then one of smug/ser is evil. and gun to my head, i believe smug more than ser.


I believe Ser more than Smug.

I just don't believe Smug. Why do you? His views feel constructed, and his agenda yesterday was terribad.


i don't know. he feels genuine to me. if he's evil, i'm really proud of him.
L Squared
Ugh. There's a corner case where Felice is the last wolf. Her last post kinda felt TMI-y.

[vote felice]
L Squared
gulp
Dake Jimson
i keep looking for an anchor and i don't have one. i wish felice or lj could be one, but they're just not there.
Dake Jimson
lj, how many evils are alive? it really feels like one, but that means zd00 is sorc and smug is legit. silver was a wolf, ser is a wolf.

i feel like this is the most likely world.
L Squared

Dake wrote:

i keep looking for an anchor and i don't have one. i wish felice or lj could be one, but they're just not there.


Yeah, I keep getting just enough doubt in my mind about you because if Smug is Sorc, I kinda think you have to be a wolf.

idk. Felice feels real. You feel real. But that world just seems paper improbable.
Felice AKA Maria

Dake wrote:

i keep looking for an anchor and i don't have one. i wish felice or lj could be one, but they're just not there.


Sorry but I'm bobbing around like a cork, myself.
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Felice Si - 3 - Smugvid (1), SerWave (4), ljtrigirl (5)
Smugvid - 1 - Felice Si (2), ljtrigirl (3)
Not voting: Dake

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Current Claims:
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - Seer, N0 Murph, N1 Dake and N2 LJ all clear
Felice Si - huntillager
ljtrigirl - huntillager
Dake Jimson
that makes villager/hunter pool: vand/dake/lj/felice/murph

which doesn't work... wtf, what am i missing?

oh there's no priest. murph-priest?
L Squared

Dake wrote:

lj, how many evils are alive? it really feels like one, but that means zd00 is sorc and smug is legit. silver was a wolf, ser is a wolf.

i feel like this is the most likely world.


I don't know. I just can't get over Smug not feeling real to me, and I don't know if I believe he's a wolf, so I'm just not sure.

zd00 felt super sorc-y to me D1, but I also thought he could be seer, so idk. Does that mean you think Vanders was the Priest? That doesn't really make sense to me either.
Felice AKA Maria

Dake wrote:

lj, how many evils are alive? it really feels like one, but that means zd00 is sorc and smug is legit. silver was a wolf, ser is a wolf.

i feel like this is the most likely world.


But if zd was the sorc then who is the priest? Vanders?
L Squared

Dake wrote:

that makes villager/hunter pool: vand/dake/lj/felice/murph

which doesn't work... wtf, what am i missing?

oh there's no priest. murph-priest?


Nah. I'm like 90% sure he was just a villy.
Tokah

Dake wrote:

when i believed murph had a hit on ser, silver was a reasonable partner, which is why i voted there when there were 2 claim-wars.

so i guess that's maybe my most-likely world.

[vote ser]

with zd00 as priest? but who is the sorc then?

ugh. i hate this game.


nickname serwave as ser

This vote didn't go through.
Felice AKA Maria

Dake wrote:

that makes villager/hunter pool: vand/dake/lj/felice/murph

which doesn't work... wtf, what am i missing?

oh there's no priest. murph-priest?


Dake / Smug = wolf / sorc team? But who is who?
Dake Jimson
smug-evil is zd00-seer. ser is priest. which means silver was definitely a wolf.

hunter/villager = dake/vand/lj/felice/murph

so a wolf or sorc in there. murph wasn't evil. so a wolf in felice/lj.

ugh. maybe smug-evil. this is a funky one.
L Squared

Felice Si wrote:

Dake wrote:

that makes villager/hunter pool: vand/dake/lj/felice/murph

which doesn't work... wtf, what am i missing?

oh there's no priest. murph-priest?


Dake / Smug = wolf / sorc team? But who is who?


Smug would be Sorc and Dake would be wolf.
Felice AKA Maria

ljtrigirl wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

Dake wrote:

that makes villager/hunter pool: vand/dake/lj/felice/murph

which doesn't work... wtf, what am i missing?

oh there's no priest. murph-priest?


Dake / Smug = wolf / sorc team? But who is who?


Smug would be Sorc and Dake would be wolf.


I don't know. I could see it either way. I know the typical thing is for the sorc to make a claim but anything is possible. If Dake is wolf he knows Smug is his sorc but if Dake is sorc .... feels a bit more tenuous.
Dake Jimson
[vote ser]

ser-wolf
silver-wolf
zd00-sorc

lj, talk me out of that world, please.
Dake Jimson
no, but who is the priest in that world?

GAAAAAAAAAAAH.
Dake Jimson
[vote smug]

i don't knooooooooooooooooooow!
Dake Jimson
whenever i'm evil, it's like the easiest puzzle ever.
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Felice Si - 3 - Smugvid (1), SerWave (4), ljtrigirl (5)
Smugvid - 2 - Felice Si (2), ljtrigirl (3) , Dake (7)
SerWave - 0 - Dake (6)
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Current Claims:
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - Seer, N0 Murph, N1 Dake and N2 LJ all clear
Felice Si - huntillager
ljtrigirl - huntillager
Tokah

modkiwi wrote:

Vote Tally:
Felice Si - 3 - Smugvid (1), SerWave (4), ljtrigirl (5)
Smugvid - 2 - Felice Si (2), ljtrigirl (3) , Dake (7)
SerWave - 0 - Dake (6)
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Current Claims:
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - Seer, N0 Murph, N1 Dake and N2 LJ all clear
Felice Si - huntillager
ljtrigirl - huntillager


This is correct and up to date.
L Squared

Dake wrote:

[vote ser]

ser-wolf
silver-wolf
zd00-sorc

lj, talk me out of that world, please.


Priest.
L Squared
I feel weird that Felice just shrugged off my vote on her.
Felice AKA Maria
Actually, rethinking things I believe Smug is sorc so vote dake

Maybe I'm wrong and it's LJ and if it is I will never trust a read of her again.
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Felice Si - 3 - Smugvid (1), SerWave (4), ljtrigirl (5)
Smugvid - 1 - Felice Si (2) , ljtrigirl (3) , Dake (7)
Dake - 1 - Felice Si (8)
SerWave - 0 - Dake (6)
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Current Claims:
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - Seer, N0 Murph, N1 Dake and N2 LJ all clear
Felice Si - huntillager
ljtrigirl - huntillager
L Squared

Felice Si wrote:

Actually, rethinking things I believe Smug is sorc so vote dake

Maybe I'm wrong and it's LJ and if it is I will never trust a read of her again.


I don't think that vote will happen today because Ser won't switch.
L Squared
gulp [vote smug]

I don't think I have a world I believe in.
L Squared
Oh man, if it is Smug and Dake, we're screwed if Ser doesn't come back.
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Felice Si - 2 - Smugvid (1), SerWave (4), ljtrigirl (5)
Smugvid - 2 - Felice Si (2) , ljtrigirl (3) , Dake (7), ljtrigirl (9)
Dake - 1 - Felice Si (8)
SerWave - 0 - Dake (6)
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Current Claims:
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - Seer, N0 Murph, N1 Dake and N2 LJ all clear
Felice Si - huntillager
ljtrigirl - huntillager
Dake Jimson
vand and murph are in the hunter/villager pool. this is not fact, but i think i need to just take it as fact.

so an evil in lj/dake/felice. regardless of how believable smug is, this remains true because i can't find another priest, so ser has to be it.

so i need to be voting in lj/felice today, i think.

that's really not an easy call.
Felice AKA Maria

ljtrigirl wrote:

Oh man, if it is Smug and Dake, we're screwed if Ser doesn't come back.


Ser did say he was coming back though, noonish.
Dake Jimson

ljtrigirl wrote:

gulp [vote smug]

I don't think I have a world I believe in.


there is no world that i feel really good about. i can usually at least bullshit myself into pretending i really believe something. i can't even do that here.
L Squared
Fuckkkkkk. It's Dake and Smug and we're going to lose.
Dake Jimson
[vote lj]
Dake Jimson

ljtrigirl wrote:

Fuckkkkkk. It's Dake and Smug and we're going to lose.


it's not. but wave is coming back, so if you really believe this, you will be able to vote it.
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Felice Si - 2 - Smugvid (1), SerWave (4), ljtrigirl (5)
Dake - 1 - Felice Si (8)
Smugvid - 1 - Felice Si (2) , ljtrigirl (3) , Dake (7) , ljtrigirl (9)
ljtrigirl - 1 - Dake (10)
SerWave - 0 - Dake (6)
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Current Claims:
Dake - (no claim)
SerWave - (no claim)
Smugvid - Seer, N0 Murph, N1 Dake and N2 LJ all clear
Felice Si - huntillager
ljtrigirl - huntillager
Dake Jimson
this is one of the weirder D3's i've played in.
Felice AKA Maria

ljtrigirl wrote:

Fuckkkkkk. It's Dake and Smug and we're going to lose.


hmmmmm, see this feels a little over the top. Anyway, Ser is coming back and I think we will all be here close to dusk so I don't think there will be any 'stuck' votes.
Dake Jimson
oh wait, smug says lj is clear. wtf is this game?
Dake Jimson
zd00-seer, smug-sorc, lj/silver-wolves.

???

this doesn't seem right at all.

[vote felice]

i don't even know.
Dake Jimson
ser is the priest, vanders/murph non-seer.

i am locking those in as facts, i think.
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Vote Tally:
Felice Si - 3 - Smugvid (1), SerWave (4), ljtrigirl (5) , Dake (11)
Dake - 1 - Felice Si (8)
Smugvid - 1 - Felice Si (2) , ljtrigirl (3) , Dake (7) , ljtrigirl (9)
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Felice Si - huntillager
ljtrigirl - huntillager
Felice AKA Maria

Dake wrote:

oh wait, smug says lj is clear. wtf is this game?


this is what I've been saying, if Smug is seer then the only possible wolf is me or Ser, because you and LJ are his clears. Now, since I'm sure Ser has to be the priest that means that Smug is definitely false and most likely sorc which puts a wolf in you or LJ.
Dake Jimson
i keep going in circles. there's nothing that disqualifies felice as wolf, i just so don't think she is. nobody seems evil.

are you fucking with us, fang? to hear that vander/silver were wolves would fix how broken this all feels.
Dake Jimson

Felice Si wrote:

Dake wrote:

oh wait, smug says lj is clear. wtf is this game?


this is what I've been saying, if Smug is seer then the only possible wolf is me or Ser, because you and LJ are his clears. Now, since I'm sure Ser has to be the priest that means that Smug is definitely false and most likely sorc which puts a wolf in you or LJ.


should we vote smug then? doesn't that take care of some corner worlds and doesn't lose the game?

if there's a lynch that does that, i want to do it. the non-losing, hedgy kind of lynch.
Felice AKA Maria

Dake wrote:

i keep going in circles. there's nothing that disqualifies felice as wolf, i just so don't think she is. nobody seems evil.

are you fucking with us, fang? to hear that vander/silver were wolves would fix how broken this all feels.


Except that if Smug is the sorc and zd was the seer, I was pretty clearly his N0.
Dake Jimson
[vote smug]

looooooooooooooooooool
Dake Jimson

Felice Si wrote:

Dake wrote:

i keep going in circles. there's nothing that disqualifies felice as wolf, i just so don't think she is. nobody seems evil.

are you fucking with us, fang? to hear that vander/silver were wolves would fix how broken this all feels.


Except that if Smug is the sorc and zd was the seer, I was pretty clearly his N0.


RIGHT! if zd00 was seer, you were definitely his N0.

shit. lj/silver wolves. should we explore this pairing? it feels wrong, but maybe on a re-read it'll come together.
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Vote Tally:
Felice Si - 2 - Smugvid (1), SerWave (4), ljtrigirl (5) , Dake (11)
Smugvid - 2 - Felice Si (2) , ljtrigirl (3) , Dake (7) , ljtrigirl (9), Dake (12)
Dake - 1 - Felice Si (8)
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ljtrigirl - huntillager
Dake Jimson
felice, what's your gut telling you about lj?
Dake Jimson
lj was all about the silver lynch yesterday. and it's not like it was a cut-your-losses situation.

UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Felice AKA Maria

Dake wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

Dake wrote:

i keep going in circles. there's nothing that disqualifies felice as wolf, i just so don't think she is. nobody seems evil.

are you fucking with us, fang? to hear that vander/silver were wolves would fix how broken this all feels.


Except that if Smug is the sorc and zd was the seer, I was pretty clearly his N0.


RIGHT! if zd00 was seer, you were definitely his N0.

shit. lj/silver wolves. should we explore this pairing? it feels wrong, but maybe on a re-read it'll come together.


I don't know Dake. I didn't see the squirrely-ness from you when Silver was saying that but I see it today. You seem much too confused for someone of your playing experience. Too confused to be real.
Dake Jimson

Felice Si wrote:

Dake wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

Dake wrote:

i keep going in circles. there's nothing that disqualifies felice as wolf, i just so don't think she is. nobody seems evil.

are you fucking with us, fang? to hear that vander/silver were wolves would fix how broken this all feels.


Except that if Smug is the sorc and zd was the seer, I was pretty clearly his N0.


RIGHT! if zd00 was seer, you were definitely his N0.

shit. lj/silver wolves. should we explore this pairing? it feels wrong, but maybe on a re-read it'll come together.


I don't know Dake. I didn't see the squirrely-ness from you when Silver was saying that but I see it today. You seem much too confused for someone of your playing experience. Too confused to be real.


i'm not better than the average player, felice. i just used to play alot. this confusion is 100% genuine.
Felice AKA Maria

Dake wrote:

felice, what's your gut telling you about lj?


She's sounded solidly good to me since D2. Like I said, if she's a wolf and I'm reading her this well I won't ever be able to trust a read of her again.
Dake Jimson

Felice Si wrote:

Dake wrote:

felice, what's your gut telling you about lj?


She's sounded solidly good to me since D2. Like I said, if she's a wolf and I'm reading her this well I won't ever be able to trust a read of her again.


that train left the station long ago for me. i can't even pretend to be able to read lj.
Dake Jimson
do you feel like i'd be more sure of a world, felice?

i can tell you for certain that evil-dake would have picked a world and been consistently trying to sell that one today.
Dake Jimson
sorc-dake would maybe be "confused".
Dave ??arski-Riley

Dake wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Dake wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Man, this is not good.


this is right after you vote me. what isn't good?


You and Van being top of the table, it sucked with AFK Vander and you not being someone I wanted to vote.


yeah, vander is always afk for lynch though, so that doesn't really dissuade me from voting him anymore.


I can understand that, and agree if I have even a few posts to judge him on, here, we didn't, so it wasn't cool for me.
Dave ??arski-Riley

Dake wrote:

smug, who are you voting?


Felice, and I'm unlikely to move.
Felice AKA Maria
So, since Smug is the sorc and zd was the seer and I'm clearly his N0 clear, I should be the NK tonight, right wolf? Don't forget that!
Felice AKA Maria

Dake wrote:

sorc-dake would maybe be "confused".


This is what I originally thought and why I thought Smug was the wolf if you two are the remaining evils.
Dave ??arski-Riley

Dake wrote:

lj, how many evils are alive? it really feels like one, but that means zd00 is sorc and smug is legit. silver was a wolf, ser is a wolf.

i feel like this is the most likely world.


I don't understand Silver and Ser as Wolves based on D2 and Silver being so happy to vote him out
Dave ??arski-Riley

Felice Si wrote:

So, since Smug is the sorc and zd was the seer and I'm clearly his N0 clear, I should be the NK tonight, right wolf? Don't forget that!


Felice, if you're Good, I'm sorry, but the F3 you proposed can't happen, so don't worry?
Dake Jimson

Smugvid wrote:

Dake wrote:

lj, how many evils are alive? it really feels like one, but that means zd00 is sorc and smug is legit. silver was a wolf, ser is a wolf.

i feel like this is the most likely world.


I don't understand Silver and Ser as Wolves based on D2 and Silver being so happy to vote him out


yeah, there's problems with that world for sure.
Tokah

Dake wrote:

i keep going in circles. there's nothing that disqualifies felice as wolf, i just so don't think she is. nobody seems evil.

are you fucking with us, fang? to hear that vander/silver were wolves would fix how broken this all feels.


I assure you Dake, I'm not that mod. If there were no living wolves at this time, the game would be over.
Dake Jimson
smug, if you're evil, you're really nailing it, bro.
Felice AKA Maria

Smugvid wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

So, since Smug is the sorc and zd was the seer and I'm clearly his N0 clear, I should be the NK tonight, right wolf? Don't forget that!


Felice, if you're Good, I'm sorry, but the F3 you proposed can't happen, so don't worry?


I don't follow ....
Dave ??arski-Riley

Felice Si wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

So, since Smug is the sorc and zd was the seer and I'm clearly his N0 clear, I should be the NK tonight, right wolf? Don't forget that!


Felice, if you're Good, I'm sorry, but the F3 you proposed can't happen, so don't worry?


I don't follow ....


I'm the Seer and Dake and LJ are not Wolves. So if the F3 is the three of you and you're Good, we won and Ser NKed himself.
Felice AKA Maria

Smugvid wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

So, since Smug is the sorc and zd was the seer and I'm clearly his N0 clear, I should be the NK tonight, right wolf? Don't forget that!


Felice, if you're Good, I'm sorry, but the F3 you proposed can't happen, so don't worry?


I don't follow ....


I'm the Seer and Dake and LJ are not Wolves. So if the F3 is the three of you and you're Good, we won and Ser NKed himself.


Ah, that's from your seer POV but I don't believe that so...
Dake Jimson
so felice and lj are 100% off the smug wagon.

ser, what do you think about smug?
Dake Jimson
if smug is evil, lj is a wolf.

and lj is calling smug evil.

yikes.
Dake Jimson
smug, who is the sorc?
Dake Jimson
when is lynch, noon or 2?
Tokah

Dake wrote:

when is lynch, noon or 2?


Dusk is at 2pm.
Dave ??arski-Riley

Dake wrote:

smug, who is the sorc?


I thought LJ was Evil and viewed her as not Wolf and now she wants to kill me and I'm the obvious Seer (to me). So I'm kind of leaning towards her?

Sorc Vander might have not claimed for FUD if he felt destined to die, but then zd was Priest. I think the Sorc was zd or it's LJ.
Dake Jimson

Smugvid wrote:

Dake wrote:

smug, who is the sorc?


I thought LJ was Evil and viewed her as not Wolf and now she wants to kill me and I'm the obvious Seer (to me). So I'm kind of leaning towards her?

Sorc Vander might have not claimed for FUD if he felt destined to die, but then zd was Priest. I think the Sorc was zd or it's LJ.


is lj being an effective sorc?

this isn't a leading sort of question, i'm actually interested in your take on that.
L Squared

Dake wrote:

[vote lj]


What even is this vote?
L Squared

Felice Si wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Fuckkkkkk. It's Dake and Smug and we're going to lose.


hmmmmm, see this feels a little over the top. Anyway, Ser is coming back and I think we will all be here close to dusk so I don't think there will be any 'stuck' votes.


Yeah, but he was heavily on board the Smug train. So him coming back or not is largely irrelevant.
L Squared

Dake wrote:

i keep going in circles. there's nothing that disqualifies felice as wolf, i just so don't think she is. nobody seems evil.

are you fucking with us, fang? to hear that vander/silver were wolves would fix how broken this all feels.


RIGHT? Like, I just keep logicing around and I don't feel comfortable with any conclusion. Except that Vanders is a villager and eff him if he isn't.

There's a definite dichotomy between Smug and one of Felice/Ser. There HAS to be an evil in those three.


Also, she wouldn't do that ever.
L Squared

Dake wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

Dake wrote:

i keep going in circles. there's nothing that disqualifies felice as wolf, i just so don't think she is. nobody seems evil.

are you fucking with us, fang? to hear that vander/silver were wolves would fix how broken this all feels.


Except that if Smug is the sorc and zd was the seer, I was pretty clearly his N0.


RIGHT! if zd00 was seer, you were definitely his N0.

shit. lj/silver wolves. should we explore this pairing? it feels wrong, but maybe on a re-read it'll come together.


Dude. I was almost as responsible for her lynch yesterday as you were.
Dave ??arski-Riley
Oh, I just realised I missed page 21 and 22.
L Squared
Ok. I think I need to make an assumption and just stick with it. My assumption is that Dake is good. I solidly believe silver was a wolf. And despite the Smug/Dake thing looking good on Paper, it feels too tinfoil hat.

[vote ser]?

I think I believe Ser's a Woof over believing Felice is one.
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Vote Tally:
Felice Si - 2 - Smugvid (1), SerWave (4), ljtrigirl (5) , Dake (11)
Dake - 1 - Felice Si (8)
Smugvid - 1 - Felice Si (2) , ljtrigirl (3) , Dake (7) , ljtrigirl (9) , Dake (12)
SerWave - 1 - Dake (6) , ljtrigirl (13)
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Smugvid - Seer, N0 Murph, N1 Dake and N2 LJ all clear
Felice Si - huntillager
ljtrigirl - huntillager
L Squared

Dake wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

Dake wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

Dake wrote:

i keep going in circles. there's nothing that disqualifies felice as wolf, i just so don't think she is. nobody seems evil.

are you fucking with us, fang? to hear that vander/silver were wolves would fix how broken this all feels.


Except that if Smug is the sorc and zd was the seer, I was pretty clearly his N0.


RIGHT! if zd00 was seer, you were definitely his N0.

shit. lj/silver wolves. should we explore this pairing? it feels wrong, but maybe on a re-read it'll come together.


I don't know Dake. I didn't see the squirrely-ness from you when Silver was saying that but I see it today. You seem much too confused for someone of your playing experience. Too confused to be real.


i'm not better than the average player, felice. i just used to play alot. this confusion is 100% genuine.


Dake, take me hand. We can do this.

I think I want to lynch Ser. I could see zd00 being the Priest, and Ser was like 100% convinced we'd lynch outside of the claims D2.
L Squared

Felice Si wrote:

Dake wrote:

felice, what's your gut telling you about lj?


She's sounded solidly good to me since D2. Like I said, if she's a wolf and I'm reading her this well I won't ever be able to trust a read of her again.


I swear, I can actually be good in a Niner with you.
L Squared

Smugvid wrote:

Dake wrote:

smug, who are you voting?


Felice, and I'm unlikely to move.


Why are you so sold that Ser is legit now?
Dake Jimson

ljtrigirl wrote:

Dake wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

Dake wrote:

i keep going in circles. there's nothing that disqualifies felice as wolf, i just so don't think she is. nobody seems evil.

are you fucking with us, fang? to hear that vander/silver were wolves would fix how broken this all feels.


Except that if Smug is the sorc and zd was the seer, I was pretty clearly his N0.


RIGHT! if zd00 was seer, you were definitely his N0.

shit. lj/silver wolves. should we explore this pairing? it feels wrong, but maybe on a re-read it'll come together.


Dude. I was almost as responsible for her lynch yesterday as you were.


i know i know i know! it's very true.
Dave ??arski-Riley

Dake wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Dake wrote:

smug, who is the sorc?


I thought LJ was Evil and viewed her as not Wolf and now she wants to kill me and I'm the obvious Seer (to me). So I'm kind of leaning towards her?

Sorc Vander might have not claimed for FUD if he felt destined to die, but then zd was Priest. I think the Sorc was zd or it's LJ.


is lj being an effective sorc?

this isn't a leading sort of question, i'm actually interested in your take on that.


If she gets me lynched, then she's being super effective, because she wins tomorrow with whoever the Wolf is.
L Squared

Smugvid wrote:

Dake wrote:

smug, who is the sorc?


I thought LJ was Evil and viewed her as not Wolf and now she wants to kill me and I'm the obvious Seer (to me). So I'm kind of leaning towards her?

Sorc Vander might have not claimed for FUD if he felt destined to die, but then zd was Priest. I think the Sorc was zd or it's LJ.


I know that you don't mean this to be, but that's pretty insulting to me because I am a really good Sorc and would have rocked a false claim instead of sitting back being confused.
Dake Jimson
[vote ser]

why did murph drop his claim?

oh... OH. guys MURPH is the sorc.

smug is legit.

zd00 is priest.

ser is wolf, silver is wolf.

OH!
Dave ??arski-Riley

ljtrigirl wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Dake wrote:

smug, who are you voting?


Felice, and I'm unlikely to move.


Why are you so sold that Ser is legit now?


I'm not at all, but Felice and you were my Wolf dichotomy. I do not believe that Ser and Silver are a team.
Dake Jimson
okay, that's the world.

murph-sorc

ser/silver-wolves

murph dropped the claim because he DID catch a wolf with it.
Dave ??arski-Riley

ljtrigirl wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Dake wrote:

smug, who is the sorc?


I thought LJ was Evil and viewed her as not Wolf and now she wants to kill me and I'm the obvious Seer (to me). So I'm kind of leaning towards her?

Sorc Vander might have not claimed for FUD if he felt destined to die, but then zd was Priest. I think the Sorc was zd or it's LJ.


I know that you don't mean this to be, but that's pretty insulting to me because I am a really good Sorc and would have rocked a false claim instead of sitting back being confused.


Every game requires a certain approach. That might be the right plan for this game.
Dake Jimson

Smugvid wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Dake wrote:

smug, who are you voting?


Felice, and I'm unlikely to move.


Why are you so sold that Ser is legit now?


I'm not at all, but Felice and you were my Wolf dichotomy. I do not believe that Ser and Silver are a team.


why not? it works fine actually. silver was willing to get right on the lynch-ser wagon. that is the cut-your-losses situation. it's a no-brainer.
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Vote Tally:
Felice Si - 2 - Smugvid (1), SerWave (4), ljtrigirl (5) , Dake (11)
SerWave - 2 - Dake (6) , ljtrigirl (13), Dake (14)
Dake - 1 - Felice Si (8)
Smugvid - 0 - Felice Si (2) , ljtrigirl (3) , Dake (7) , ljtrigirl (9) , Dake (12)
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Smugvid - Seer, N0 Murph, N1 Dake and N2 LJ all clear
Felice Si - huntillager
ljtrigirl - huntillager
L Squared
The last wolf is in Felice/Smug/Ser because Dake just kills Smug for an easy win.

Murph was either hunter targeted or left alive because of claims tightness.
L Squared

Smugvid wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Dake wrote:

smug, who are you voting?


Felice, and I'm unlikely to move.


Why are you so sold that Ser is legit now?


I'm not at all, but Felice and you were my Wolf dichotomy. I do not believe that Ser and Silver are a team.


Why not?
Dake Jimson

Smugvid wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Dake wrote:

smug, who is the sorc?


I thought LJ was Evil and viewed her as not Wolf and now she wants to kill me and I'm the obvious Seer (to me). So I'm kind of leaning towards her?

Sorc Vander might have not claimed for FUD if he felt destined to die, but then zd was Priest. I think the Sorc was zd or it's LJ.


I know that you don't mean this to be, but that's pretty insulting to me because I am a really good Sorc and would have rocked a false claim instead of sitting back being confused.


Every game requires a certain approach. That might be the right plan for this game.


exactly, which is why i asked my next question. a sorc doesn't need to be claiming to be effective.
Dave ??arski-Riley

Dake wrote:

okay, that's the world.

murph-sorc

ser/silver-wolves

murph dropped the claim because he DID catch a wolf with it.


But then why did Silver choose to believe Murph and not me, who she would think was Sorc in that world?
Felice AKA Maria

Dake wrote:

[vote ser]

why did murph drop his claim?

oh... OH. guys MURPH is the sorc.

smug is legit.

zd00 is priest.

ser is wolf, silver is wolf.

OH!


The trouble with this picture is all of zd's posts that were repping villager drawing nk by softing seer. That's something I could see a villager, sorc or seer do; or even a wolf setting up for a future claim war. Why do it as a priest or a hunter? It can only cause too much confusion for your team in a no reveal game.
Dake Jimson
all the people that i want to be good can be good in this world.

i love it, and murph's behavior just clicked for me. i feel comfortable for the first time.

i'm taking your hand, lj.
L Squared

Smugvid wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Dake wrote:

smug, who is the sorc?


I thought LJ was Evil and viewed her as not Wolf and now she wants to kill me and I'm the obvious Seer (to me). So I'm kind of leaning towards her?

Sorc Vander might have not claimed for FUD if he felt destined to die, but then zd was Priest. I think the Sorc was zd or it's LJ.


I know that you don't mean this to be, but that's pretty insulting to me because I am a really good Sorc and would have rocked a false claim instead of sitting back being confused.


Every game requires a certain approach. That might be the right plan for this game.


BUT I HAD THE VOTES ON SER YESTERDAY.

Every game requires a different approach, but I'm never a fucking idiot with my approach.
Dake Jimson

Felice Si wrote:

Dake wrote:

[vote ser]

why did murph drop his claim?

oh... OH. guys MURPH is the sorc.

smug is legit.

zd00 is priest.

ser is wolf, silver is wolf.

OH!


The trouble with this picture is all of zd's posts that were repping villager drawing nk by softing seer. That's something I could see a villager, sorc or seer do; or even a wolf setting up for a future claim war. Why do it as a priest or a hunter? It can only cause too much confusion for your team in a no reveal game.


zd00 takes it to all the levels though. he can be anything.
L Squared

Dake wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Dake wrote:

smug, who is the sorc?


I thought LJ was Evil and viewed her as not Wolf and now she wants to kill me and I'm the obvious Seer (to me). So I'm kind of leaning towards her?

Sorc Vander might have not claimed for FUD if he felt destined to die, but then zd was Priest. I think the Sorc was zd or it's LJ.


I know that you don't mean this to be, but that's pretty insulting to me because I am a really good Sorc and would have rocked a false claim instead of sitting back being confused.


Every game requires a certain approach. That might be the right plan for this game.


exactly, which is why i asked my next question. a sorc doesn't need to be claiming to be effective.


I do. Because otherwise I get fucking night killed.
Dave ??arski-Riley

ljtrigirl wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Dake wrote:

smug, who are you voting?


Felice, and I'm unlikely to move.


Why are you so sold that Ser is legit now?


I'm not at all, but Felice and you were my Wolf dichotomy. I do not believe that Ser and Silver are a team.


Why not?


I've said this repeatedly, so I'm pretty frustrated I have to say it again.

Ser and Silver voted together on Dake D1. Not compelling, but something.

Silver believed Murph and buried me even though from her POV I would be Sorc if she was Wolf with Ser. There's no explanation for why she would do this.
L Squared

Felice Si wrote:

Dake wrote:

[vote ser]

why did murph drop his claim?

oh... OH. guys MURPH is the sorc.

smug is legit.

zd00 is priest.

ser is wolf, silver is wolf.

OH!


The trouble with this picture is all of zd's posts that were repping villager drawing nk by softing seer. That's something I could see a villager, sorc or seer do; or even a wolf setting up for a future claim war. Why do it as a priest or a hunter? It can only cause too much confusion for your team in a no reveal game.


I could see GS zd doing a double fakeout. Everything he did D1 felt like trying to not be NKed by looking like he was trying to be NKed. It's one of the reasons I thought he was Seer/Sorc.
Felice AKA Maria

Smugvid wrote:

Dake wrote:

okay, that's the world.

murph-sorc

ser/silver-wolves

murph dropped the claim because he DID catch a wolf with it.


But then why did Silver choose to believe Murph and not me, who she would think was Sorc in that world?


In that world, Ser would be false and so Silver might not be a wolf?
Dave ??arski-Riley

ljtrigirl wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Dake wrote:

smug, who is the sorc?


I thought LJ was Evil and viewed her as not Wolf and now she wants to kill me and I'm the obvious Seer (to me). So I'm kind of leaning towards her?

Sorc Vander might have not claimed for FUD if he felt destined to die, but then zd was Priest. I think the Sorc was zd or it's LJ.


I know that you don't mean this to be, but that's pretty insulting to me because I am a really good Sorc and would have rocked a false claim instead of sitting back being confused.


Every game requires a certain approach. That might be the right plan for this game.


BUT I HAD THE VOTES ON SER YESTERDAY.

Every game requires a different approach, but I'm never a fucking idiot with my approach.


Not if Ser is your Wolf, that'd be no good for you. This is a largely pointless debate. I'm talking about things that are possible, not what you would decide to do as a good play. I don't know what a good play is.
Dave ??arski-Riley

Felice Si wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Dake wrote:

okay, that's the world.

murph-sorc

ser/silver-wolves

murph dropped the claim because he DID catch a wolf with it.


But then why did Silver choose to believe Murph and not me, who she would think was Sorc in that world?


In that world, Ser would be false and so Silver might not be a wolf?


So who is the other Wolf, as it's Vander or you, if it's not Silver.
I'm back now and have no clue what is going on.

I'm the priest. Lynching me today isn't the end of the world if Felice is the wolf, but it is if Smug is evil.

I still don't know if I believe that.

It's possible there's a sorcsmug/wolfdake world but Smug has read the best to me the whole game. I have by far the most experience with him out of anyone else here so trying not to fall into a comfort trap, but it's hard not too.
Dake Jimson

ljtrigirl wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Dake wrote:

smug, who is the sorc?


I thought LJ was Evil and viewed her as not Wolf and now she wants to kill me and I'm the obvious Seer (to me). So I'm kind of leaning towards her?

Sorc Vander might have not claimed for FUD if he felt destined to die, but then zd was Priest. I think the Sorc was zd or it's LJ.


I know that you don't mean this to be, but that's pretty insulting to me because I am a really good Sorc and would have rocked a false claim instead of sitting back being confused.


Every game requires a certain approach. That might be the right plan for this game.


BUT I HAD THE VOTES ON SER YESTERDAY.

Every game requires a different approach, but I'm never a fucking idiot with my approach.


i don't see "idiotic" behavior as objectively idiotic very often. there's many strands i don't see. i think smug is a similar thinker. if i think you did something and it seems "idiotic", i assume i'm not seeing something.
Felice AKA Maria

SerWave wrote:

I'm back now and have no clue what is going on.

I'm the priest. Lynching me today isn't the end of the world if Felice is the wolf, but it is if Smug is evil.

I still don't know if I believe that.

It's possible there's a sorcsmug/wolfdake world but Smug has read the best to me the whole game. I have by far the most experience with him out of anyone else here so trying not to fall into a comfort trap, but it's hard not too.


For me the picture is clearer, since I know I'm good and with Smug's views it's not possible for both Smug and you to be true. I still don't believe that priest zd puts out all those seer (but I'm really not a seer) posts, possibly drawing the nk and thus leaving us with no one to give us any true reveals. So I believe you are the priest, which means Smug is false claiming and likely sorc and zd was the seer. Vanders could have been evil but if you're the priest we know he was a villager, which seems most likely anyway from his behaviour. So my world is you are priest, Smug is sorc and the last wolf is either Dake or LJ. I don't want to vote Smug today, I want to try for the wolf. If I'm wrong today, I'll likely be wrong again tomorrow anyway in a final three so I'm game to go for it now.

Felice Si wrote:

SerWave wrote:

I'm back now and have no clue what is going on.

I'm the priest. Lynching me today isn't the end of the world if Felice is the wolf, but it is if Smug is evil.

I still don't know if I believe that.

It's possible there's a sorcsmug/wolfdake world but Smug has read the best to me the whole game. I have by far the most experience with him out of anyone else here so trying not to fall into a comfort trap, but it's hard not too.


For me the picture is clearer, since I know I'm good and with Smug's views it's not possible for both Smug and you to be true. I still don't believe that priest zd puts out all those seer (but I'm really not a seer) posts, possibly drawing the nk and thus leaving us with no one to give us any true reveals. So I believe you are the priest, which means Smug is false claiming and likely sorc and zd was the seer. Vanders could have been evil but if you're the priest we know he was a villager, which seems most likely anyway from his behaviour. So my world is you are priest, Smug is sorc and the last wolf is either Dake or LJ. I don't want to vote Smug today, I want to try for the wolf. If I'm wrong today, I'll likely be wrong again tomorrow anyway in a final three so I'm game to go for it now.


I really don't think lj is the wolf with sorcsmug but it is possible. I find dake far more likely in that scenario.
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Felice AKA Maria

SerWave wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

SerWave wrote:

I'm back now and have no clue what is going on.

I'm the priest. Lynching me today isn't the end of the world if Felice is the wolf, but it is if Smug is evil.

I still don't know if I believe that.

It's possible there's a sorcsmug/wolfdake world but Smug has read the best to me the whole game. I have by far the most experience with him out of anyone else here so trying not to fall into a comfort trap, but it's hard not too.


For me the picture is clearer, since I know I'm good and with Smug's views it's not possible for both Smug and you to be true. I still don't believe that priest zd puts out all those seer (but I'm really not a seer) posts, possibly drawing the nk and thus leaving us with no one to give us any true reveals. So I believe you are the priest, which means Smug is false claiming and likely sorc and zd was the seer. Vanders could have been evil but if you're the priest we know he was a villager, which seems most likely anyway from his behaviour. So my world is you are priest, Smug is sorc and the last wolf is either Dake or LJ. I don't want to vote Smug today, I want to try for the wolf. If I'm wrong today, I'll likely be wrong again tomorrow anyway in a final three so I'm game to go for it now.


I really don't think lj is the wolf with sorcsmug but it is possible. I find dake far more likely in that scenario.


Yeah, if you're the priest and you believe Smug is seer you have to be voting me because I'm the only choice for a wolf in that world. You have to decide if you believe me as not wolf/not evil. If so and you're priest then Smug is evil but do you want to vote him today or hunt elsewhere if he's the sorc?

Felice Si wrote:

SerWave wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

SerWave wrote:

I'm back now and have no clue what is going on.

I'm the priest. Lynching me today isn't the end of the world if Felice is the wolf, but it is if Smug is evil.

I still don't know if I believe that.

It's possible there's a sorcsmug/wolfdake world but Smug has read the best to me the whole game. I have by far the most experience with him out of anyone else here so trying not to fall into a comfort trap, but it's hard not too.


For me the picture is clearer, since I know I'm good and with Smug's views it's not possible for both Smug and you to be true. I still don't believe that priest zd puts out all those seer (but I'm really not a seer) posts, possibly drawing the nk and thus leaving us with no one to give us any true reveals. So I believe you are the priest, which means Smug is false claiming and likely sorc and zd was the seer. Vanders could have been evil but if you're the priest we know he was a villager, which seems most likely anyway from his behaviour. So my world is you are priest, Smug is sorc and the last wolf is either Dake or LJ. I don't want to vote Smug today, I want to try for the wolf. If I'm wrong today, I'll likely be wrong again tomorrow anyway in a final three so I'm game to go for it now.


I really don't think lj is the wolf with sorcsmug but it is possible. I find dake far more likely in that scenario.


Yeah, if you're the priest and you believe Smug is seer you have to be voting me because I'm the only choice for a wolf in that world. You have to decide if you believe me as not wolf/not evil. If so and you're priest then Smug is evil but do you want to vote him today or hunt elsewhere if he's the sorc?


I think I want to vote smug or dake now, but I really don't know. I believe smug, but I think the only scenario in my mind where there are 2 evils alive is smug/dake.
Felice AKA Maria

SerWave wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

SerWave wrote:

I'm back now and have no clue what is going on.

I'm the priest. Lynching me today isn't the end of the world if Felice is the wolf, but it is if Smug is evil.

I still don't know if I believe that.

It's possible there's a sorcsmug/wolfdake world but Smug has read the best to me the whole game. I have by far the most experience with him out of anyone else here so trying not to fall into a comfort trap, but it's hard not too.


For me the picture is clearer, since I know I'm good and with Smug's views it's not possible for both Smug and you to be true. I still don't believe that priest zd puts out all those seer (but I'm really not a seer) posts, possibly drawing the nk and thus leaving us with no one to give us any true reveals. So I believe you are the priest, which means Smug is false claiming and likely sorc and zd was the seer. Vanders could have been evil but if you're the priest we know he was a villager, which seems most likely anyway from his behaviour. So my world is you are priest, Smug is sorc and the last wolf is either Dake or LJ. I don't want to vote Smug today, I want to try for the wolf. If I'm wrong today, I'll likely be wrong again tomorrow anyway in a final three so I'm game to go for it now.


I really don't think lj is the wolf with sorcsmug but it is possible. I find dake far more likely in that scenario.


The trouble now is with LJ pushing to vote over to you I'm less sure about her being good. For most of D2 and D3 she's seemed solidly good to me. I don't understand her switch to you here at the end of today.
Felice AKA Maria

SerWave wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

SerWave wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

SerWave wrote:

I'm back now and have no clue what is going on.

I'm the priest. Lynching me today isn't the end of the world if Felice is the wolf, but it is if Smug is evil.

I still don't know if I believe that.

It's possible there's a sorcsmug/wolfdake world but Smug has read the best to me the whole game. I have by far the most experience with him out of anyone else here so trying not to fall into a comfort trap, but it's hard not too.


For me the picture is clearer, since I know I'm good and with Smug's views it's not possible for both Smug and you to be true. I still don't believe that priest zd puts out all those seer (but I'm really not a seer) posts, possibly drawing the nk and thus leaving us with no one to give us any true reveals. So I believe you are the priest, which means Smug is false claiming and likely sorc and zd was the seer. Vanders could have been evil but if you're the priest we know he was a villager, which seems most likely anyway from his behaviour. So my world is you are priest, Smug is sorc and the last wolf is either Dake or LJ. I don't want to vote Smug today, I want to try for the wolf. If I'm wrong today, I'll likely be wrong again tomorrow anyway in a final three so I'm game to go for it now.


I really don't think lj is the wolf with sorcsmug but it is possible. I find dake far more likely in that scenario.


Yeah, if you're the priest and you believe Smug is seer you have to be voting me because I'm the only choice for a wolf in that world. You have to decide if you believe me as not wolf/not evil. If so and you're priest then Smug is evil but do you want to vote him today or hunt elsewhere if he's the sorc?


I think I want to vote smug or dake now, but I really don't know. I believe smug, but I think the only scenario in my mind where there are 2 evils alive is smug/dake.


If you believe Smug is the seer then you should be voting me. I'm the only wolf in that world.

Felice Si wrote:

SerWave wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

SerWave wrote:

I'm back now and have no clue what is going on.

I'm the priest. Lynching me today isn't the end of the world if Felice is the wolf, but it is if Smug is evil.

I still don't know if I believe that.

It's possible there's a sorcsmug/wolfdake world but Smug has read the best to me the whole game. I have by far the most experience with him out of anyone else here so trying not to fall into a comfort trap, but it's hard not too.


For me the picture is clearer, since I know I'm good and with Smug's views it's not possible for both Smug and you to be true. I still don't believe that priest zd puts out all those seer (but I'm really not a seer) posts, possibly drawing the nk and thus leaving us with no one to give us any true reveals. So I believe you are the priest, which means Smug is false claiming and likely sorc and zd was the seer. Vanders could have been evil but if you're the priest we know he was a villager, which seems most likely anyway from his behaviour. So my world is you are priest, Smug is sorc and the last wolf is either Dake or LJ. I don't want to vote Smug today, I want to try for the wolf. If I'm wrong today, I'll likely be wrong again tomorrow anyway in a final three so I'm game to go for it now.


I really don't think lj is the wolf with sorcsmug but it is possible. I find dake far more likely in that scenario.


The trouble now is with LJ pushing to vote over to you I'm less sure about her being good. For most of D2 and D3 she's seemed solidly good to me. I don't understand her switch to you here at the end of today.


I'm putting my faith in her that she's not your sorc. That's the only way this ends badly for me. I really hope that's not the case and I really can't see a Smug/lj team.

Felice Si wrote:

SerWave wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

SerWave wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

SerWave wrote:

I'm back now and have no clue what is going on.

I'm the priest. Lynching me today isn't the end of the world if Felice is the wolf, but it is if Smug is evil.

I still don't know if I believe that.

It's possible there's a sorcsmug/wolfdake world but Smug has read the best to me the whole game. I have by far the most experience with him out of anyone else here so trying not to fall into a comfort trap, but it's hard not too.


For me the picture is clearer, since I know I'm good and with Smug's views it's not possible for both Smug and you to be true. I still don't believe that priest zd puts out all those seer (but I'm really not a seer) posts, possibly drawing the nk and thus leaving us with no one to give us any true reveals. So I believe you are the priest, which means Smug is false claiming and likely sorc and zd was the seer. Vanders could have been evil but if you're the priest we know he was a villager, which seems most likely anyway from his behaviour. So my world is you are priest, Smug is sorc and the last wolf is either Dake or LJ. I don't want to vote Smug today, I want to try for the wolf. If I'm wrong today, I'll likely be wrong again tomorrow anyway in a final three so I'm game to go for it now.


I really don't think lj is the wolf with sorcsmug but it is possible. I find dake far more likely in that scenario.


Yeah, if you're the priest and you believe Smug is seer you have to be voting me because I'm the only choice for a wolf in that world. You have to decide if you believe me as not wolf/not evil. If so and you're priest then Smug is evil but do you want to vote him today or hunt elsewhere if he's the sorc?


I think I want to vote smug or dake now, but I really don't know. I believe smug, but I think the only scenario in my mind where there are 2 evils alive is smug/dake.


If you believe Smug is the seer then you should be voting me. I'm the only wolf in that world.


Yes, but I'm essentially punting because I don't think there are 2 evils alive if you are a wolf.
Felice AKA Maria

SerWave wrote:


Yes, but I'm essentially punting because I don't think there are 2 evils alive if you are a wolf.


So you think zd was sorc and Smug is seer?

Felice Si wrote:

SerWave wrote:


Yes, but I'm essentially punting because I don't think there are 2 evils alive if you are a wolf.


So you think zd was sorc and Smug is seer?


One thing I'm most sure of is sorc/seer zd.
Dake Jimson
[vote ser] harder

Dake wrote:

[vote ser] harder


Please explain your world better. It makes no sense to me.
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Vote Tally:
Dake - 2 - Felice Si (8), SerWave (15)
SerWave - 2 - Dake (6) , ljtrigirl (13), Dake (14) , Dake (16)
Felice Si - 1 - Smugvid (1), SerWave (4) , ljtrigirl (5) , Dake (11)
Smugvid - 0 - Felice Si (2) , ljtrigirl (3) , Dake (7) , ljtrigirl (9) , Dake (12)
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