Sirius Black
Majority Rules


This is an 11 player game with dusk falling when a player has a majority of the votes.

Good

Seer: Each night chooses a player and receives a result of Wolf or Not a Wolf. Will receive a random N0 negative view.

Martyr:Each night chooses one player and if that player is chosen as the NK target the Martyr will die in their place.

Hunter:If the last two people alive are the Hunter and a Wolf Team Good will win.

5 Villagers

Evil

2 Werewolves: Shares a chat and counts for parity. Each night they will choose a player to kill.

Mimic: May reveal as any role that they have viewed during the game. N0 will be randomized amongst all other possible roles in game (Villager, Hunter, Seer, Martyr, Wolf)

Dusk

Dusk will happen the moment any one player has a majority of the votes on them. Nightfall will not be activated for this game.

11 players=6 votes
9 players=5 votes
7 players=4 votes
5 players=3 votes
3 players=2 votes

There will be times during the day that I will not be able to immediately process dusk due to the fact that this could happen at literally any time. Once a majority vote is reached all players should stop posting as if I've posted no posting. Please GM me when majority has been reached as well for quickest processing.

Dawn

Dawn will be processed when all players have locked their actions or 24 horus after [Dusk] is posted by me-whichever comes sooner. Weekends will not count in this 24 hours.

There will be no talking between dusk and dawn. Talking is allowed at night.

Order of Night Actions:
Martyr Protect
Seer View
NK
Mimic View

Zombie posts are Not Allowed in this game. There is a mimic.

Other stuff:

MISCELLANEOUS

Play to have fun.
Please do not use scripts.
Please do not use encrypted text.
Please do not talk about this game outside of the thread except to the mod or in whatever I cobble together as a Wolf Chat.
Please only use the replace button if you mean it.

Game Credits
Most of the rules were borrowed from Smugvid who borrowed from Miraria. Once Cassy is back, I'll add in additional detail.
Sirius Black
Sign-ups:
1. Miraria
2. Robb
3. PeteVasi
4. Smugvid
5. DeMorcerf
6.
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11.
Sirius Black
The way the N0 view for Mimic worked was different in last run of this game. Let's get this settled up front:

[poll=168448]
Robb Effinger
So another way the mimic could work is

"No view, but on death can choose to reveal as any role".

This gives the mimic less information, but more ability to FUD.

(I wasn't the "other" vote, so don't necessarily interpret this idea as the only definition of "other")
Sirius Black

Robb wrote:

So another way the mimic could work is

"No view, but on death can choose to reveal as any role".

This gives the mimic less information, but more ability to FUD.

(I wasn't the "other" vote, so don't necessarily interpret this idea as the only definition of "other")


I really like the idea behind that. Need to use it somewhere.
Dave ??arski-Riley

Robb wrote:

So another way the mimic could work is

"No view, but on death can choose to reveal as any role".

This gives the mimic less information, but more ability to FUD.

(I wasn't the "other" vote, so don't necessarily interpret this idea as the only definition of "other")


I think this suggestion gives Evil a big hand, which I think we agreed is needed. It allows the Mimic to back up any false claim and destroys any sense of surety on lynch/NK reveal.
Robb Effinger
Maybe "Shapeshifter" would be a better role name, since mimic implies a view.
Sirius Black
I'm now voting "Other" to mean this Shapeshifter idea, fwiw.

*Should have been NOW.
Dave ??arski-Riley
I didn't select Other either - did those who did have anything in mind, or just "not these choices"?
Sirius Black

Smugvid wrote:

I didn't select Other either - did those who did have anything in mind, or just "not these choices"?


Typo. It should have been "now"
Triumphant

RoyalApe wrote:

The way the N0 view for Mimic worked was different in last run of this game. Let's get this settled up front:

[poll=168448]


My choice isn't there. It would be No N0 view, but the mimic can reveal as what they view the same night they view it.
Dake Jimson
i like the shapeshifter idea.

i also like mir's idea.

i also like an N0 vill with the ability to view/reveal same target same night.
Robb Effinger

Dake wrote:

i like the shapeshifter idea.

i also like mir's idea.

i also like an N0 vill with the ability to view/reveal same target same night.


Dake, you forgot to ask to be signed up...

(How do we have 7 votes and only 4 signups...?)
L Squared
I voted. Whether or not I sign up depends on when it starts.
Ron

Robb wrote:

Dake wrote:

i like the shapeshifter idea.

i also like mir's idea.

i also like an N0 vill with the ability to view/reveal same target same night.


Dake, you forgot to ask to be signed up...

(How do we have 7 votes and only 4 signups...?)
LJ is apparently one, I'm another. I can't guess at the third.

First reason is just to be snarky because Royal didn't put any disclaimers / limits on the poll.

Second reason is because there are a number of options that he didn't list that would be more amusing, although more problematic. Look, if Evil got stomped last time (I didn't follow) and you want to ramp the mimic up, one of the scariest ways you can juice him is by making him unknown. Don't let the group decide on what the mimic is before the game start.

A. During N0, let the player decide for himself from a list of options.
B. During N0, let the player decide and as a night action, he can change mimic types.
C. During N0, let the player decide and each night at dawn, he turns into another type and he can't repeat.
D. Randomize it at N0.
E. Randomize it every dawn.

And whatever the choice, don't tell the rest of the group. Maybe give them the list of choices, but don't specify what kind of mimic. The important thing is that the mod is consistent and attentive.

... all of those would make even experienced werewolf'ers wonder about who died when. Are they more of a headache for the mod and the mimic? Sure. But it's new enough to be different and not overpowering, and many players would like the idea of rotational powers. Granted, not as many would like the challenge of going up against someone with rotational powers, but hey, as someone said, Evil needed help.

Anyway, that's my "other" answer.
Dake Jimson

Robb wrote:

Dake wrote:

i like the shapeshifter idea.

i also like mir's idea.

i also like an N0 vill with the ability to view/reveal same target same night.


Dake, you forgot to ask to be signed up...

(How do we have 7 votes and only 4 signups...?)


i don't know, man. i don't know.
Dake Jimson
up to royal, but i would expect that to be a sign-up only poll.
Dake Jimson

linguistfromhell wrote:

Robb wrote:

Dake wrote:

i like the shapeshifter idea.

i also like mir's idea.

i also like an N0 vill with the ability to view/reveal same target same night.


Dake, you forgot to ask to be signed up...

(How do we have 7 votes and only 4 signups...?)
LJ is apparently one, I'm another. I can't guess at the third.

First reason is just to be snarky because Royal didn't put any disclaimers / limits on the poll.

Second reason is because there are a number of options that he didn't list that would be more amusing, although more problematic. Look, if Evil got stomped last time (I didn't follow) and you want to ramp the mimic up, one of the scariest ways you can juice him is by making him unknown. Don't let the group decide on what the mimic is before the game start.

A. During N0, let the player decide for himself from a list of options.
B. During N0, let the player decide and as a night action, he can change mimic types.
C. During N0, let the player decide and each night at dawn, he turns into another type and he can't repeat.
D. Randomize it at N0.
E. Randomize it every dawn.

And whatever the choice, don't tell the rest of the group. Maybe give them the list of choices, but don't specify what kind of mimic. The important thing is that the mod is consistent and attentive.

... all of those would make even experienced werewolf'ers wonder about who died when. Are they more of a headache for the mod and the mimic? Sure. But it's new enough to be different and not overpowering, and many players would like the idea of rotational powers. Granted, not as many would like the challenge of going up against someone with rotational powers, but hey, as someone said, Evil needed help.

Anyway, that's my "other" answer.


nah, evil didn't get stomped.

but it'd be fun if the mimic could be any kind of mimic it wanted. that would be weird and scary.
Dake Jimson
so the aux evil gets to choose between

mimic: N0 villager, view/reveal same target, same night. does not know wolves.

shapeshifter: no views, can reveal as any role in the game. does not know wolves.

is the ambiguity too powerful? seems cool to me.
David Morcerf
In.
The Original Thumb #50
Give the mimic a random N0 of a non-villager.
Triumphant

ohgrande wrote:

Give the mimic a random N0 of a non-villager.


I think guaranteeing its a non villager is a little too powerful. Unless maybe they don't know who their non villager is.

Maybe they are given one role they start knowing how to be, without knowing who it came from?
I voted for a Mimic N0 of a Villager, but I'm probably in the don't really care column. I don't like the choose-your-role thing, I'd rather have the role up front, but I'm flexible enough about it. Being able to reveal the same night as the view is quite a strong addition. Another option is to go Cultist-Mimic. Knowing the wolves is a big boost. Viewing one for the wolf reveal becomes a choice the Mimic can make.

Also interesting that the Mimic was first made because a Cultist-Sorcerer wasn't a strong enough aux...
Kiwi's ModBot
Seating Order (nicknames):
1. Smugvid (smug)
2. Borgoto (mistake, borg)
3. PeteVasi (pete)
4. absnook (abs)
5. AnneAa (anne)
6. JaredW25 (jared)
7. DeMorcerf (demo)
8. gelrod (god, ( ???????????? ???????????? ????????????))
9. ljtrigirl (lj, i really just want this nickname to be longer than kiwi's because it seems like the kind of overkill that i can get into someone can vote me with it if they really want to but mine's longer if you know what i mean :wink
10. Miraria (mir)
11. Robb (rob)
Karafruit Villager-Thrower
[{Miraria} signup][{Robb} signup][{PeteVasi} signup][{Smugvid} signup][{DeMorcerf} signup]
Karafruit Villager-Thrower
add setting dusk_on_majority
add setting geekmail_mod_on_dusk
Aaron
Been thinking about making a comeback to BGG for a while, and I think this'll be the game.

signup
Pok??mon Ranger Anne
signup
Sirius Black

modkiwi wrote:

Player list according to ModKiwi:
absnook
AnneAa
DeMorcerf
Miraria
PeteVasi
Robb
Smugvid

7 players are signed up.

To sign up for this game, post signup in bold.
To remove yourself from this game, post remove in bold.


Looks like we need 2 more.
Felice AKA Maria
Maths....

There are enough niners in signup. Stop trying to change eleveners!
Sirius Black

Felice Si wrote:

Maths....

There are enough niners in signup. Stop trying to change eleveners!


Obviously 9ers are on my mind. Carry on.
Aaron

RoyalApe wrote:

Felice Si wrote:

Maths....

There are enough niners in signup. Stop trying to change eleveners!


Obviously 9ers are on my mind. Carry on.


LJ said she may join depending on timing.

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I do have a real job now (not graduate school), though it is rather flexible for my hours (as in, I set the hours, as long as I'm doing what I need to). In order to respect my job, I'll have certain pre-planned times where I'll do BGG.

I'll post *Wake-up* to denote the start of one of these times, and then 30 min later I'll post *Sleep* - and will be AFK until my next planned time. If there's a lynch time during work (not applicable to this game), I'll try to have one of these times during lynch chaos (with enough time to set my night actions, if applicable).

This doesn't apply if I'm not working (after 6pm BGG time or weekends). I'll have 1-3 of these times depending on how busy work is and how the game is going.

Don't make any reads of me based on when I'm active or not.
L Squared
signup
Mathieu
Signup
Dave ??arski-Riley

Borgoto wrote:

Signup


Saw this after my other post in the other thread. heart
L Squared

Borgoto wrote:

Signup


Dude. Has anyone told you that your microbadge looks like your cat?
Karafruit Villager-Thrower
I'd consider signing up, but I don't have dusk_on_majority implemented yet...
Robb Effinger

Kiwi13cubed wrote:

I'd consider signing up, but I don't have dusk_on_majority implemented yet...


I'm pretty sure you'll have time to implement before the first dusk....

I mean, how hard can that be?
Dave ??arski-Riley

Kiwi13cubed wrote:

I'd consider signing up, but I don't have dusk_on_majority implemented yet...


Don't need to worry, we're very good at self policing. Get in here and let's get it on!
Karafruit Villager-Thrower
fine, fine...

signup
relinquish mod
Karafruit Villager-Thrower

Robb wrote:

Kiwi13cubed wrote:

I'd consider signing up, but I don't have dusk_on_majority implemented yet...


I'm pretty sure you'll have time to implement before the first dusk....

I mean, how hard can that be?

eh, if I have time to work on it during work, sure. But I'm always tired after work...

then again, considering my job so far is like 90% waiting for processes to run, I should be fine... whistle
Sirius Black

Kiwi13cubed wrote:

I'd consider signing up, but I don't have dusk_on_majority implemented yet...


Mod can just call dusk. It's what we have to do on Cassy majority games as well.
Sirius Black

Kiwi13cubed wrote:

fine, fine...

signup
relinquish mod


Yay.

No posting while I get this up and running.
Sirius Black

RoyalApe wrote:

The way the N0 view for Mimic worked was different in last run of this game. Let's get this settled up front:

[poll=168448]


We are running with Aux of Shapeshifter for this game.

Shapeshifter: May choose to reveal as any valid role in the game (Seer, Martyr, Hunter, Villager, Werewolf, Shapeshifter).
Sirius Black
Apparently we can't count.

We still need 1 more.

Player List:
absnook
AnneAa
Borgoto
DeMorcerf
Kiwi13cubed
ljtrigirl
Miraria
PeteVasi
Robb
Smugvid
L Squared
Good.

Why are we doing a shapeshifter?
Sirius Black

ljtrigirl wrote:

Good.

Why are we doing a shapeshifter?


Because we voted, "other" was the leader and of the people that mentioned specifically what other meant, shapeshifter was the concensus as far as I could tell.

If the players signed up want it differently, they can speak up.
Karafruit Villager-Thrower
my vote would be for linguist's suggestion, but on the whole I don't really care.
L Squared
I'd say either a) let the mimic pick their N0 or b) you choose and don't tell us.

Taking away the views from the mimic makes it less powerful, not more.
Karafruit Villager-Thrower

ljtrigirl wrote:

I'd say either a) let the mimic pick their N0 or b) you choose and don't tell us.

Taking away the views from the mimic makes it less powerful, not more.

Disagree.

Yes, it makes the mimic less powerful in that aspect.

But shapeshifter can false-claim seer the whole game, and when they get killed know that they will reveal as seer. Or whatever other role they wish, and can claim that role from the start of the game. Normal mimic has to view them first, which gives less options in terms of terms of making claims from the start (especially if they happen to view villagers).

Is the shapeshifter overall less powerful than mimic?

I don't know.

But to blatantly say that it's obviously less powerful is I think an oversight, especially if it hasn't actually been played yet (which I don't think it has?)
L Squared

Kiwi13cubed wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

I'd say either a) let the mimic pick their N0 or b) you choose and don't tell us.

Taking away the views from the mimic makes it less powerful, not more.

Disagree.

Yes, it makes the mimic less powerful in that aspect.

But shapeshifter can false-claim seer the whole game, and when they get killed know that they will reveal as seer. Or whatever other role they wish, and can claim that role from the start of the game. Normal mimic has to view them first, which gives less options in terms of terms of making claims from the start (especially if they happen to view villagers).

Is the shapeshifter overall less powerful than mimic?

I don't know.

But to blatantly say that it's obviously less powerful is I think an oversight, especially if it hasn't actually been played yet (which I don't think it has?)


I mean, if played really well, shapeshifter is possibly better.

But I think 90% of the time, with the way that people play aux, shapeshifter will either die as a villager or have a GS claim that people see through.

The best thing that can happen to a Shapeshifter is dying N1 and revealing as seer.
Ron
The easiest difference is based on lifespan. In a bigger, longer game, viewing for specials can be huge. Smaller games or quick-dying mimics will just prefer the confident fud bomb.
Sirius Black

linguistfromhell wrote:

The easiest difference is based on lifespan. In a bigger, longer game, viewing for specials can be huge. Smaller games or quick-dying mimics will just prefer the confident fud bomb.


Having a mimic find their wolves can be helpful too.

And a convincing shapeshifter that flips seer could do more harm than good as well because wolves may essentially need to kill TWO seers.

I may go back to straight Mimic based on that last thought.
Ron

linguistfromhell wrote:

A. During N0, let the player decide for himself from a list of options.


whistle
Dave ??arski-Riley
I think being able to reveal as Wolf on lynch is really strong for Evil, because you don't actually know if you're at must lynch, you're looking for connections between players that don't actually exist etc. It also allows the Wolves to know who the Mimic was with surety and that their aux is dead, so they can't be in a final 5 and have to worry about the "do we have vote control" dance.
Ron

RoyalApe wrote:

linguistfromhell wrote:

The easiest difference is based on lifespan. In a bigger, longer game, viewing for specials can be huge. Smaller games or quick-dying mimics will just prefer the confident fud bomb.


Having a mimic find their wolves can be helpful too.

And a convincing shapeshifter that flips seer could do more harm than good as well because wolves may essentially need to kill TWO seers.

I may go back to straight Mimic based on that last thought.
And yeah, sorry. I was being generic and I meant that viewing for any non-villager can be huge. Hell, even other auxes.
L Squared

linguistfromhell wrote:

linguistfromhell wrote:

A. During N0, let the player decide for himself from a list of options.


whistle


I prefer this.

But if not this, I think Mimic that picks their N0 view would be best.
Sirius Black
Final Decision for Aux Evil:
Mimic: May reveal as any role that they have viewed during the game. N0 will be randomized amongst all other possible roles in game (Villager, Hunter, Seer, Martyr, Wolf)
Sirius Black

ljtrigirl wrote:

linguistfromhell wrote:

linguistfromhell wrote:

A. During N0, let the player decide for himself from a list of options.


whistle


I prefer this.

But if not this, I think Mimic that picks their N0 view would be best.


I'm not doing the Mimic selecting own n0 if only because I hate waiting on n0 check-ins from all players.
Sirius Black
No Posting Please

Setting up game.
L Squared
Random N0 works.

You could also have people pre-emptively GM you N0 stuff.
Mathieu

ljtrigirl wrote:

Borgoto wrote:

Signup


Dude. Has anyone told you that your microbadge looks like your cat?


Or is it the other way around?
Karafruit Villager-Thrower
Modkiwi should be calling dusk when someone has a majority. It should also geekmail you.

Also don't forget to post start when you're ready for us to post.
Sirius Black

RoyalApe wrote:

No Posting Please

Setting up game.


AHEM
Karafruit Villager-Thrower

RoyalApe wrote:

RoyalApe wrote:

No Posting Please

Setting up game.


AHEM
whistle devil
Sirius Black

[start]
[dawn]

{absnook} nickname abs
{AnneAa} nickname anne
{Borgoto} nickname borg
{DeMorcerf} nickname demo
{JaredW25} nickname jared
{Kiwi13cubed} nickname kiwi
{ljtrigirl} nickname lj
{Miraria} nickname mir
{PeteVasi} nickname pete
{Robb} nickname rob
{Smugvid} nickname smug

If you wish to add another nickname for yourself for voting, please post "nickname whatever" in bold.

In order for ModKiwi to recognize your vote, you must vote for their BGG user name or any active nickname by posting "vote username" in bold.

ModKiwi will also track claims. For example, you may post "claim Royal has the Best Butt" in bold and it will track this for you as a common handbook of sorts.

You May Post
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Not voting: AnneAa, Borgoto, DeMorcerf, JaredW25, Kiwi13cubed, Miraria, PeteVasi, Robb, Smugvid, absnook, ljtrigirl

To ensure the latest tally is up-to-date, please click here

Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - (no claim)
Kiwi13cubed - (no claim)
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)

Nicknames:
Smugvid - smug
Borgoto - borg
PeteVasi - pete
absnook - abs
AnneAa - anne
JaredW25 - jared
DeMorcerf - demo
Kiwi13cubed - kiwi
ljtrigirl - lj
Miraria - mir
Robb - rob
Mathieu
nickname mistake
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Not voting: AnneAa, Borgoto, DeMorcerf, JaredW25, Kiwi13cubed, Miraria, PeteVasi, Robb, Smugvid, absnook, ljtrigirl

To ensure the latest tally is up-to-date, please click here

Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - (no claim)
Kiwi13cubed - (no claim)
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)

Nicknames:
Smugvid - smug
Borgoto - mistake, borg
PeteVasi - pete
absnook - abs
AnneAa - anne
JaredW25 - jared
DeMorcerf - demo
Kiwi13cubed - kiwi
ljtrigirl - lj
Miraria - mir
Robb - rob
Dave ??arski-Riley
YAY! Can't wait to have all this joy and happiness beaten out of me by the never-ending D1, let's do this.

Vote Borgoto as promised.

Borg, Abs and Kiwi - I think this is probably your first time on the Majority Rules merry-go-round. While it doesn't have to be like this, general custom is to declare that you would be willing to put the final vote on someone AND declare before you put a penultimate vote on someone to ensure that someone doesn't get lynched unexpectedly. General politeness is to allow the rest of the players a chance to see game-changing information (penultimate votes, claims, views, deaths) etc, before proceeding to move the game on. But I'm sure this will be talked about a million times as the game progesses anyway.
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Borgoto - 1 - Smugvid (1)
Not voting: AnneAa, Borgoto, DeMorcerf, JaredW25, Kiwi13cubed, Miraria, PeteVasi, Robb, absnook, ljtrigirl

To ensure the latest tally is up-to-date, please click here

Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - (no claim)
Kiwi13cubed - (no claim)
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)

Nicknames:
Smugvid - smug
Borgoto - mistake, borg
PeteVasi - pete
absnook - abs
AnneAa - anne
JaredW25 - jared
DeMorcerf - demo
Kiwi13cubed - kiwi
ljtrigirl - lj
Miraria - mir
Robb - rob
Aaron

Smugvid wrote:

YAY! Can't wait to have all this joy and happiness beaten out of me by the never-ending D1, let's do this.

Vote Borgoto as promised.

Borg, Abs and Kiwi - I think this is probably your first time on the Majority Rules merry-go-round. While it doesn't have to be like this, general custom is to declare that you would be willing to put the final vote on someone AND declare before you put a penultimate vote on someone to ensure that someone doesn't get lynched unexpectedly. General politeness is to allow the rest of the players a chance to see game-changing information (penultimate votes, claims, views, deaths) etc, before proceeding to move the game on. But I'm sure this will be talked about a million times as the game progesses anyway.


*Wake up*

I assume that in general, the more votes someone has on them, the more serious the vote has to be? Also, in general, how long are days in this format?
Dave ??arski-Riley

absnook wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

YAY! Can't wait to have all this joy and happiness beaten out of me by the never-ending D1, let's do this.

Vote Borgoto as promised.

Borg, Abs and Kiwi - I think this is probably your first time on the Majority Rules merry-go-round. While it doesn't have to be like this, general custom is to declare that you would be willing to put the final vote on someone AND declare before you put a penultimate vote on someone to ensure that someone doesn't get lynched unexpectedly. General politeness is to allow the rest of the players a chance to see game-changing information (penultimate votes, claims, views, deaths) etc, before proceeding to move the game on. But I'm sure this will be talked about a million times as the game progesses anyway.


*Wake up*

I assume that in general, the more votes someone has on them, the more serious the vote has to be? Also, in general, how long are days in this format?


Yeah, the closer you get to majority, the more difficult it seems to be to actually draw those last votes. Day 1 can be quite long, just checking the last game now for the actual length - From Dawn at 15:30 Friday 11th September, first Dusk was 16:30 Monday 21st September. Dawn occurs 24 hours later. The next Dusk was actually the evening of the next day though, so sometimes it isn't all slow slow slow.
Karafruit Villager-Thrower

RoyalApe wrote:


[start]
[dawn]

{absnook} nickname abs
{AnneAa} nickname anne
{Borgoto} nickname borg
{DeMorcerf} nickname demo
{JaredW25} nickname jared
{Kiwi13cubed} nickname kiwi
{ljtrigirl} nickname lj
{Miraria} nickname mir
{PeteVasi} nickname pete
{Robb} nickname rob
{Smugvid} nickname smug

If you wish to add another nickname for yourself for voting, please post "nickname whatever" in bold.

In order for ModKiwi to recognize your vote, you must vote for their BGG user name or any active nickname by posting "vote username" in bold.

ModKiwi will also track claims. For example, you may post "claim Royal has the Best Butt" in bold and it will track this for you as a common handbook of sorts.

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side note: nickname Kiwi13cubed as kiwi is also available to you as a mod, which is somewhat easier than curly-posting as everyone. But that works too

So... like... I'm new to this type of thing, do I claim seer now or later?

Dake isn't here so I can't just counter him whenever he claims it...
Karafruit Villager-Thrower
[nickname kiwifruit][nickname kiwifruits][nickname karafruit][nickname kara][nickname kiwi2197][nickname an absurdly long vote name that no one will want to type out in order to use for a vote but which will probably be done at some point only because this was said]
Aaron
You gotcha.

[vote an absurdly long vote name that no one will want to type out in order to use for a vote but which will probably be done at some point only because this was said]
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Borgoto - 1 - Smugvid (1)
Kiwi13cubed - 1 - absnook (2)
Not voting: AnneAa, Borgoto, DeMorcerf, JaredW25, Kiwi13cubed, Miraria, PeteVasi, Robb, ljtrigirl

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Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - (no claim)
Kiwi13cubed - (no claim)
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)

Nicknames:
Smugvid - smug
Borgoto - mistake, borg
PeteVasi - pete
absnook - abs
AnneAa - anne
JaredW25 - jared
DeMorcerf - demo
Kiwi13cubed - kiwi13cubed as kiwi, an absurdly long vote name that no one will want to type out in order to use for a vote but which will probably be done at some point only because this was said, karafruit, kiwi2197, kiwifruit, kara, kiwi, kiwifruits
ljtrigirl - lj
Miraria - mir
Robb - rob
Dave ??arski-Riley

absnook wrote:

You gotcha.

[vote an absurdly long vote name that no one will want to type out in order to use for a vote but which will probably be done at some point only because this was said]


Did you copy and paste?
Karafruit Villager-Thrower
claim seer but only after Dake claims it
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Borgoto - 1 - Smugvid (1)
Kiwi13cubed - 1 - absnook (2)
Not voting: AnneAa, Borgoto, DeMorcerf, JaredW25, Kiwi13cubed, Miraria, PeteVasi, Robb, ljtrigirl

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Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - (no claim)
Kiwi13cubed - seer but only after Dake claims it
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)

Nicknames:
Smugvid - smug
Borgoto - mistake, borg
PeteVasi - pete
absnook - abs
AnneAa - anne
JaredW25 - jared
DeMorcerf - demo
Kiwi13cubed - kiwi13cubed as kiwi, an absurdly long vote name that no one will want to type out in order to use for a vote but which will probably be done at some point only because this was said, karafruit, kiwi2197, kiwifruit, kara, kiwi, kiwifruits
ljtrigirl - lj
Miraria - mir
Robb - rob
Aaron

Smugvid wrote:

absnook wrote:

You gotcha.

[vote an absurdly long vote name that no one will want to type out in order to use for a vote but which will probably be done at some point only because this was said]


Did you copy and paste?


Hmmm...yeah. I guess I haven't fulfilled the prophesy of the vote name yet.

[vote an absurdly long name that no one will want to type out in order to use for a vote but will probably be done at some point only because this was said]

...there, I typed it.
Mathieu

Smugvid wrote:

YAY! Can't wait to have all this joy and happiness beaten out of me by the never-ending D1, let's do this.

Vote Borgoto as promised.

Borg, Abs and Kiwi - I think this is probably your first time on the Majority Rules merry-go-round. While it doesn't have to be like this, general custom is to declare that you would be willing to put the final vote on someone AND declare before you put a penultimate vote on someone to ensure that someone doesn't get lynched unexpectedly. General politeness is to allow the rest of the players a chance to see game-changing information (penultimate votes, claims, views, deaths) etc, before proceeding to move the game on. But I'm sure this will be talked about a million times as the game progesses anyway.


I feel this setup dosent encourage meta votes also.
Robb Effinger
vote Borgoto

For meta reasons.
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Borgoto - 2 - Smugvid (1), Robb (3)
Kiwi13cubed - 1 - absnook (2)
Not voting: AnneAa, Borgoto, DeMorcerf, JaredW25, Kiwi13cubed, Miraria, PeteVasi, ljtrigirl

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Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - (no claim)
Kiwi13cubed - seer but only after Dake claims it
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)

Nicknames:
Smugvid - smug
Borgoto - mistake, borg
PeteVasi - pete
absnook - abs
AnneAa - anne
JaredW25 - jared
DeMorcerf - demo
Kiwi13cubed - kiwi13cubed as kiwi, an absurdly long vote name that no one will want to type out in order to use for a vote but which will probably be done at some point only because this was said, karafruit, kiwi2197, kiwifruit, kara, kiwi, kiwifruits
ljtrigirl - lj
Miraria - mir
Robb - rob
Karafruit Villager-Thrower
vote jared because while I'm sure he's not always a wolf, I have yet to see a game where he isn't whistle
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Borgoto - 2 - Smugvid (1), Robb (3)
Kiwi13cubed - 1 - absnook (2)
JaredW25 - 1 - Kiwi13cubed (4)
Not voting: AnneAa, Borgoto, DeMorcerf, JaredW25, Miraria, PeteVasi, ljtrigirl

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Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - (no claim)
Kiwi13cubed - seer but only after Dake claims it
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)

Nicknames:
Smugvid - smug
Borgoto - mistake, borg
PeteVasi - pete
absnook - abs
AnneAa - anne
JaredW25 - jared
DeMorcerf - demo
Kiwi13cubed - kiwi13cubed as kiwi, an absurdly long vote name that no one will want to type out in order to use for a vote but which will probably be done at some point only because this was said, karafruit, kiwi2197, kiwifruit, kara, kiwi, kiwifruits
ljtrigirl - lj
Miraria - mir
Robb - rob
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Borgoto - 2 - Smugvid (1), Robb (3)
Kiwi13cubed - 1 - absnook (2)
JaredW25 - 1 - Kiwi13cubed (4)
Smugvid - 1 - JaredW25 (5)
Not voting: AnneAa, Borgoto, DeMorcerf, Miraria, PeteVasi, ljtrigirl

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Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - (no claim)
Kiwi13cubed - seer but only after Dake claims it
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)

Nicknames:
Smugvid - smug
Borgoto - mistake, borg
PeteVasi - pete
absnook - abs
AnneAa - anne
JaredW25 - jared
DeMorcerf - demo
Kiwi13cubed - kiwi13cubed as kiwi, an absurdly long vote name that no one will want to type out in order to use for a vote but which will probably be done at some point only because this was said, karafruit, kiwi2197, kiwifruit, kara, kiwi, kiwifruits
ljtrigirl - lj
Miraria - mir
Robb - rob
Mathieu

Robb wrote:

vote Borgoto

For meta reasons.


Mathieu

JaredW25 wrote:

[vote smugvid]
[vote nightfall]

You know why.


Nightfalling again at inappropriate times are we?
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Borgoto - 3 - Smugvid (1), Robb (3), JaredW25 (6)
Kiwi13cubed - 1 - absnook (2)
JaredW25 - 1 - Kiwi13cubed (4)
Smugvid - 0 - JaredW25 (5)
Not voting: AnneAa, Borgoto, DeMorcerf, Miraria, PeteVasi, ljtrigirl

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Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - (no claim)
Kiwi13cubed - seer but only after Dake claims it
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)

Nicknames:
Smugvid - smug
Borgoto - mistake, borg
PeteVasi - pete
absnook - abs
AnneAa - anne
JaredW25 - jared
DeMorcerf - demo
Kiwi13cubed - kiwi13cubed as kiwi, an absurdly long vote name that no one will want to type out in order to use for a vote but which will probably be done at some point only because this was said, karafruit, kiwi2197, kiwifruit, kara, kiwi, kiwifruits
ljtrigirl - lj
Miraria - mir
Robb - rob
Mathieu

JaredW25 wrote:

Borgoto wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

[vote smugvid]
[vote nightfall]

You know why.


Nightfalling again at inappropriate times are we?

[vote borgoto]
[vote nightfall]


I thought Nightfall was not now a thing.

I feel putting a third vote on someone is kinda dangerous with so little of the game gone but feel free. Seems like there is a rule you need to mislynch me day 1 nowadays.
Karafruit Villager-Thrower
The command is "nightfall", not "vote nightfall".

However I think RoyalApe would be perfectly justified in calling your post of "vote nightfall" to be equivalent to a nightfall, if he felt as such.

Clearly a ruling needs to be made, because your post was misleading, whether intentionally so or not.
Mathieu

JaredW25 wrote:

Borgoto wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

Borgoto wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

[vote smugvid]
[vote nightfall]

You know why.


Nightfalling again at inappropriate times are we?

[vote borgoto]
[vote nightfall]


I thought Nightfall was not now a thing.

I feel putting a third vote on someone is kinda dangerous with so little of the game gone but feel free. Seems like there is a rule you need to mislynch me day 1 nowadays.

Nightfalls don't exist in this set.

Either way, three votes is nothing. The fact that you're sweating it though intrigues me.


I don't feel like i'm sweating.

Karafruit Villager-Thrower

JaredW25 wrote:

Kiwi13cubed wrote:

The command is "nightfall", not "vote nightfall".

However I think RoyalApe would be perfectly justified in calling your post of "vote nightfall" to be equivalent to a nightfall, if he felt as such.

Clearly a ruling needs to be made, because your post was misleading, whether intentionally so or not.

There are literally not nightfalls in this game.

It would be broken if there were.

In that case, making posts that say "vote nightfall" is intentionally misleading, and you know that perfectly well.

Clearly if there were nightfalls, dusk would occur if the votes were such that there was no way the ll could change, or if there was a majority.

That would not be unreasonable.
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Borgoto - 2 - Smugvid (1), Robb (3), JaredW25 (6)
Kiwi13cubed - 2 - absnook (2), JaredW25 (7)
JaredW25 - 1 - Kiwi13cubed (4)
Smugvid - 0 - JaredW25 (5)
Not voting: AnneAa, Borgoto, DeMorcerf, Miraria, PeteVasi, ljtrigirl

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Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - (no claim)
Kiwi13cubed - seer but only after Dake claims it
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)

Nicknames:
Smugvid - smug
Borgoto - mistake, borg
PeteVasi - pete
absnook - abs
AnneAa - anne
JaredW25 - jared
DeMorcerf - demo
Kiwi13cubed - kiwi13cubed as kiwi, an absurdly long vote name that no one will want to type out in order to use for a vote but which will probably be done at some point only because this was said, karafruit, kiwi2197, kiwifruit, kara, kiwi, kiwifruits
ljtrigirl - lj
Miraria - mir
Robb - rob
Karafruit Villager-Thrower

JaredW25 wrote:

That said if Royal wants me to park my vote on smug I'm totally cool with that.

I hadn't seen that there weren't nightfalls.

I think posting vote nightfall if you know there's no nightfalls is intentionally misleading and in poor taste.

Sure it doesn't really matter right now because it got cleared up, but I still think it's something that's not sporting to do.

btw, nightfalls are still valid in modkiwi. So I'd be careful if I were you whistle

(if I'd realized, I'd have implemented a no_nightfall setting--might still do that, but at present settings can only be changed before the game starts, so I'll have to change that too)
Dave ??arski-Riley
Borg - there's still meta at the start, so no worries. If for some reason someone got lynched immediately, it'd look pretty bad for votes 5 and especially 6 so it doesn't happen.
Karafruit Villager-Thrower

JaredW25 wrote:

I get if you don't know the history of the roleset, but I'm just joking around.

Incredibly pinged by kiwi now.

Seriously?

Faking nightfall posts is something that has been clarified as poor taste in prior games. I feel like you know this.

Royal, please find me a replacement. I don't want to play a game where unsporting shit like this is tolerated.
Triumphant

Kiwi13cubed wrote:

The command is "nightfall", not "vote nightfall".

However I think RoyalApe would be perfectly justified in calling your post of "vote nightfall" to be equivalent to a nightfall, if he felt as such.

Clearly a ruling needs to be made, because your post was misleading, whether intentionally so or not.


normally nightfalls are not activated for majority rules games. is it active this game?
Triumphant
and now we head into the cursing and name calling. and it's only page two.
Karafruit Villager-Thrower

JaredW25 wrote:

Kiwi13cubed wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

I get if you don't know the history of the roleset, but I'm just joking around.

Incredibly pinged by kiwi now.

Seriously?

Faking nightfall posts is something that has been clarified as poor taste in prior games. I feel like you know this.

Royal, please find me a replacement. I don't want to play a game where unsporting shit like this is tolerated.

thumbsup

I'm not the one being a jackass about a joke.

[bgcolor=black]****[/bgcolor] you.
Robb Effinger

miraria wrote:

and now we head into the cursing and name calling. and it's only page two.


Ya.

Isn't WW Fun!

shake
L Squared
Wheeeee

vote pete

Hi kiss
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Borgoto - 2 - Smugvid (1), Robb (3), JaredW25 (6)
Kiwi13cubed - 2 - absnook (2), JaredW25 (7)
JaredW25 - 1 - Kiwi13cubed (4)
PeteVasi - 1 - ljtrigirl (8)
Smugvid - 0 - JaredW25 (5)
Not voting: AnneAa, Borgoto, DeMorcerf, Miraria, PeteVasi

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Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - (no claim)
Kiwi13cubed - seer but only after Dake claims it
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)

Nicknames:
Smugvid - smug
Borgoto - mistake, borg
PeteVasi - pete
absnook - abs
AnneAa - anne
JaredW25 - jared
DeMorcerf - demo
Kiwi13cubed - kiwi13cubed as kiwi, an absurdly long vote name that no one will want to type out in order to use for a vote but which will probably be done at some point only because this was said, karafruit, kiwi2197, kiwifruit, kara, kiwi, kiwifruits
ljtrigirl - lj
Miraria - mir
Robb - rob
L Squared

Kiwi13cubed wrote:

[nickname kiwifruit][nickname kiwifruits][nickname karafruit][nickname kara][nickname kiwi2197][nickname an absurdly long vote name that no one will want to type out in order to use for a vote but which will probably be done at some point only because this was said]


nickname I really just want this nickname to be longer than kiwi's because it seems like the kind of overkill that I can get into someone can vote me with it if they really want to but mine's longer if you know what i mean :wink:
L Squared

JaredW25 wrote:

[vote smugvid]
[vote nightfall]

You know why.


I don't. Did I miss something ridiculous?
L Squared

JaredW25 wrote:

Borgoto wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

[vote smugvid]
[vote nightfall]

You know why.


Nightfalling again at inappropriate times are we?

[vote borgoto]
[vote nightfall]


I thought the nightfall logic was incorporated?
L Squared
I guess that's more to Kiwi than Royal.
Aaron
Jared, do you think Kiwi is evil, or are you "joking"?
L Squared
Dude. I'm out if this game is going to be like this.
L Squared

JaredW25 wrote:

absnook wrote:

Jared, do you think Kiwi is evil, or are you "joking"?

I am interested in lunching her. If she flips wolf I'd be interested in lynching smug.


Why would you be interested in lynching Smug?
L Squared
I started to say that I've only seen Kiwi get mad when she was good. Then I realized I've only seen Kiwi be good, so it's not really a good baseline.
L Squared

JaredW25 wrote:

I just think there's little reason to flip out about a (fake) nightfall. I was literally kidding with smug, and I know he knows nightfalls aren't active in majority rules.

I hope I'm wrong because that's a shitty way to win, but I also think kiwi calling my joke "unsportsmanlike shit" and rage quitting is also shitty.


Stop calling thing shitty.

I agree that it's in poor taste, so I get why Kiwi didn't like it.
L Squared
Is the Smug connection just because the nightfall was on Smug?
Aaron

JaredW25 wrote:

I just think there's little reason to flip out about a (fake) nightfall. I was literally kidding with smug, and I know he knows nightfalls aren't active in majority rules.

I hope I'm wrong because that's a shitty way to win, but I also think kiwi calling my joke "unsportsmanlike shit" and rage quitting is also shitty.


Her requested exit was a response to you saying that her comments pinged you a lot - which didn't seem like a joke to me (though Kiwi, it wasn't a personal attack on you).
L Squared
So, tell me about the Smug nightfall. What did he do that I missed?
L Squared

JaredW25 wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

So, tell me about the Smug nightfall. What did he do that I missed?

The last 9er. It was a meta vote. The nightfall was for extra oomph.


What happened in the last 9er?
Mathieu

Vote Anne

because great name!
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Borgoto - 2 - Smugvid (1), Robb (3), JaredW25 (6)
Kiwi13cubed - 2 - absnook (2), JaredW25 (7)
JaredW25 - 1 - Kiwi13cubed (4)
PeteVasi - 1 - ljtrigirl (8)
AnneAa - 1 - Borgoto (9)
Smugvid - 0 - JaredW25 (5)
Not voting: AnneAa, DeMorcerf, Miraria, PeteVasi

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Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - (no claim)
Kiwi13cubed - seer but only after Dake claims it
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)

Nicknames:
Smugvid - smug
Borgoto - mistake, borg
PeteVasi - pete
absnook - abs
AnneAa - anne
JaredW25 - jared
DeMorcerf - demo
Kiwi13cubed - kiwi13cubed as kiwi, an absurdly long vote name that no one will want to type out in order to use for a vote but which will probably be done at some point only because this was said, karafruit, kiwi2197, kiwifruit, kara, kiwi, kiwifruits
ljtrigirl - lj, i really just want this nickname to be longer than kiwi's because it seems like the kind of overkill that i can get into someone can vote me with it if they really want to but mine's longer if you know what i mean :wink:
Miraria - mir
Robb - rob
L Squared

JaredW25 wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

So, tell me about the Smug nightfall. What did he do that I missed?

The last 9er. It was a meta vote. The nightfall was for extra oomph.


What happened in the last 9er?

I played poorly.

Smug claimed seer in LL with a fairly unbelievable claim. I killed my aux. kiwi called a fake hit on my afk wolf partner, Rhanddom. Still was convinced smug was sorc until kiwi retracted.

Gerald subbed in, and we went down in a blaze of fail.

All because I didn't kill him. And then I was floored when my supposed aux called me evil and got me lynched.

You could probably just reread the first sentence of this post 10 times and get a better picture


Lol. Nice. I might have to read that. I enjoy it when you suffer.
L Squared

JaredW25 wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

So, tell me about the Smug nightfall. What did he do that I missed?

The last 9er. It was a meta vote. The nightfall was for extra oomph.


What happened in the last 9er?

I played poorly.

Smug claimed seer in LL with a fairly unbelievable claim. I killed my aux. kiwi called a fake hit on my afk wolf partner, Rhanddom. Still was convinced smug was sorc until kiwi retracted.

Gerald subbed in, and we went down in a blaze of fail.

All because I didn't kill him. And then I was floored when my supposed aux called me evil and got me lynched.

You could probably just reread the first sentence of this post 10 times and get a better picture


Lol. Nice. I might have to read that. I enjoy it when you suffer.

Meh.

I'm in a slump. Between gunsmen and that 9er I'm kinda bummed TBH.


Let's change that this game then.
L Squared

JaredW25 wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

So, tell me about the Smug nightfall. What did he do that I missed?

The last 9er. It was a meta vote. The nightfall was for extra oomph.


What happened in the last 9er?

I played poorly.

Smug claimed seer in LL with a fairly unbelievable claim. I killed my aux. kiwi called a fake hit on my afk wolf partner, Rhanddom. Still was convinced smug was sorc until kiwi retracted.

Gerald subbed in, and we went down in a blaze of fail.

All because I didn't kill him. And then I was floored when my supposed aux called me evil and got me lynched.

You could probably just reread the first sentence of this post 10 times and get a better picture


Lol. Nice. I might have to read that. I enjoy it when you suffer.

Meh.

I'm in a slump. Between gunsmen and that 9er I'm kinda bummed TBH.


Let's change that this game then.

I'm good this game. My good game has been okay lately. Evil game is just sucking.


Ah. Didn't realize you were evil in the Gunman game.
Mathieu
So, you guys tell me how these games usually go, is there a lot of evil coordination sniping going on?
L Squared

Borgoto wrote:

So, you guys tell me how these games usually go, is there a lot of evil coordination sniping going on?


The one time I played, we had a really long D1 with several wagons before settling on a Villager lynch. Then we lynched both of the wolves in quick succession. So, not really.

How'd the last one go?
Sirius Black

Nightfalls are not valid in the Majority Rules set.
Sirius Black

replace Kiwi13cubed with gelrod
Kiwi's ModBot
gelrod has replaced Kiwi13cubed.

Vote Tally:
Borgoto - 2 - Smugvid (1), Robb (3), JaredW25 (6)
gelrod - 2 - absnook (2), JaredW25 (7)
JaredW25 - 1 - gelrod (4)
PeteVasi - 1 - ljtrigirl (8)
AnneAa - 1 - Borgoto (9)
Smugvid - 0 - JaredW25 (5)
Not voting: AnneAa, DeMorcerf, Miraria, PeteVasi

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Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - (no claim)
gelrod - seer but only after Dake claims it
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)

Nicknames:
Smugvid - smug
Borgoto - mistake, borg
PeteVasi - pete
absnook - abs
AnneAa - anne
JaredW25 - jared
DeMorcerf - demo
gelrod -
ljtrigirl - lj, i really just want this nickname to be longer than kiwi's because it seems like the kind of overkill that i can get into someone can vote me with it if they really want to but mine's longer if you know what i mean :wink:
Miraria - mir
Robb - rob
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Borgoto - 2 - Smugvid (1), Robb (3), JaredW25 (6)
gelrod - 2 - absnook (2), JaredW25 (7)
PeteVasi - 1 - ljtrigirl (8)
AnneAa - 1 - Borgoto (9)
Smugvid - 1 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10)
JaredW25 - 0 - gelrod (4)
Not voting: AnneAa, DeMorcerf, Miraria, PeteVasi

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Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - (no claim)
gelrod - AnneAa is probably evil
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)

Nicknames:
Smugvid - smug
Borgoto - mistake, borg
PeteVasi - pete
absnook - abs
AnneAa - anne
JaredW25 - jared
DeMorcerf - demo
gelrod -
ljtrigirl - lj, i really just want this nickname to be longer than kiwi's because it seems like the kind of overkill that i can get into someone can vote me with it if they really want to but mine's longer if you know what i mean :wink:
Miraria - mir
Robb - rob
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Borgoto - 3 - Smugvid (1), Robb (3), JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11)
gelrod - 2 - absnook (2), JaredW25 (7)
PeteVasi - 1 - ljtrigirl (8)
AnneAa - 1 - Borgoto (9)
Smugvid - 0 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10)
JaredW25 - 0 - gelrod (4)
Not voting: AnneAa, DeMorcerf, Miraria, PeteVasi

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Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - (no claim)
gelrod - AnneAa is probably evil
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)

Nicknames:
Smugvid - smug
Borgoto - mistake, borg
PeteVasi - pete
absnook - abs
AnneAa - anne
JaredW25 - jared
DeMorcerf - demo
gelrod - god, ( ???????????? ???????????? ????????????)
ljtrigirl - lj, i really just want this nickname to be longer than kiwi's because it seems like the kind of overkill that i can get into someone can vote me with it if they really want to but mine's longer if you know what i mean :wink:
Miraria - mir
Robb - rob
Mathieu

gelrod wrote:

[vote borgoto]

Let's run someone up fast this time.


Why? I want everyone to have the opportunity to talk a little before we run people up.
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Borgoto - 3 - Smugvid (1), Robb (3), JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11)
gelrod - 2 - absnook (2), JaredW25 (7)
PeteVasi - 1 - ljtrigirl (8)
AnneAa - 1 - Borgoto (9)
Smugvid - 0 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10)
JaredW25 - 0 - gelrod (4)
Not voting: AnneAa, DeMorcerf, Miraria, PeteVasi

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Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - (no claim)
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)

Nicknames:
Smugvid - smug
Borgoto - mistake, borg
PeteVasi - pete
absnook - abs
AnneAa - anne
JaredW25 - jared
DeMorcerf - demo
gelrod - god, ( ???????????? ???????????? ????????????)
ljtrigirl - lj, i really just want this nickname to be longer than kiwi's because it seems like the kind of overkill that i can get into someone can vote me with it if they really want to but mine's longer if you know what i mean :wink:
Miraria - mir
Robb - rob
Mathieu
Let's put this behind us now

To all who played this before, do you feel it favors good or evil?
Mathieu

gelrod wrote:

Borgoto wrote:

Let's put this behind us now

To all who played this before, do you feel it favors good or evil?


Damn. I hope the votes move off of you.

I think majority rules heavily favors good. Wears evil down after a while.


That is 33% in your power. Start a new trend!
Mathieu
That's not how I roll.
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Borgoto - 4 - Smugvid (1), Robb (3), JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11), JaredW25 (12)
gelrod - 1 - absnook (2), JaredW25 (7)
PeteVasi - 1 - ljtrigirl (8)
AnneAa - 1 - Borgoto (9)
Smugvid - 0 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10)
JaredW25 - 0 - gelrod (4)
Not voting: AnneAa, DeMorcerf, Miraria, PeteVasi

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Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - (no claim)
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)

Nicknames:
Smugvid - smug
Borgoto - mistake, borg
PeteVasi - pete
absnook - abs
AnneAa - anne
JaredW25 - jared
DeMorcerf - demo
gelrod - god, ( ???????????? ???????????? ????????????)
ljtrigirl - lj, i really just want this nickname to be longer than kiwi's because it seems like the kind of overkill that i can get into someone can vote me with it if they really want to but mine's longer if you know what i mean :wink:
Miraria - mir
Robb - rob
David Morcerf

modkiwi wrote:

Nicknames:
Smugvid - smug
Borgoto - mistake, borg
PeteVasi - pete
absnook - abs
AnneAa - anne
JaredW25 - jared
DeMorcerf - demo
Kiwi13cubed - kiwi13cubed as kiwi, an absurdly long vote name that no one will want to type out in order to use for a vote but which will probably be done at some point only because this was said, karafruit, kiwi2197, kiwifruit, kara, kiwi, kiwifruits
ljtrigirl - lj
Miraria - mir
Robb - rob

So am I the only one who thinks this "nickname" thing is going to get really annoying -- both mechanically and also if it's posted in every tally?
David Morcerf

Kiwi13cubed wrote:

claim seer but only after Dake claims it

[claim beholder]
[vote kiwi]

Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Borgoto - 4 - Smugvid (1), Robb (3), JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11), JaredW25 (12)
gelrod - 1 - absnook (2), JaredW25 (7)
PeteVasi - 1 - ljtrigirl (8)
AnneAa - 1 - Borgoto (9)
Smugvid - 0 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10)
JaredW25 - 0 - gelrod (4)
Not voting: AnneAa, DeMorcerf, Miraria, PeteVasi

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Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)

Nicknames:
Smugvid - smug
Borgoto - mistake, borg
PeteVasi - pete
absnook - abs
AnneAa - anne
JaredW25 - jared
DeMorcerf - demo
gelrod - god, ( ???????????? ???????????? ????????????)
ljtrigirl - lj, i really just want this nickname to be longer than kiwi's because it seems like the kind of overkill that i can get into someone can vote me with it if they really want to but mine's longer if you know what i mean :wink:
Miraria - mir
Robb - rob
David Morcerf

Robb wrote:

vote Borgoto

For meta reasons.

Brilliant, classic Robb. laugh
Mathieu

DeMorcerf wrote:

Kiwi13cubed wrote:

claim seer but only after Dake claims it

[claim beholder]
[vote kiwi]



Yeah I don't think the nicknames need to be in tallies. I do think a link to the handy dandy app that lets you read a single player's posts is great!

So i'm in LL but I don't know what do to about it yet! any tips?
David Morcerf

gelrod wrote:

Let's run someone up fast this time.

Also, to be clear, I will not be providing my read of Jared for a minimum of two days. I may vote him in those two days but I will not try to create a compelling case for or against him because I'm sick of our meta.

Wanting fast run up but intentionally delaying reads seems conflicting positions.
[vote gelrod]
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Borgoto - 4 - Smugvid (1), Robb (3), JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11), JaredW25 (12)
gelrod - 2 - absnook (2), JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13)
PeteVasi - 1 - ljtrigirl (8)
AnneAa - 1 - Borgoto (9)
Smugvid - 0 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10)
JaredW25 - 0 - gelrod (4)
Not voting: AnneAa, Miraria, PeteVasi

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Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)

Nicknames:
Smugvid - smug
Borgoto - mistake, borg
PeteVasi - pete
absnook - abs
AnneAa - anne
JaredW25 - jared
DeMorcerf - demo
gelrod - god, ( ???????????? ???????????? ????????????)
ljtrigirl - lj, i really just want this nickname to be longer than kiwi's because it seems like the kind of overkill that i can get into someone can vote me with it if they really want to but mine's longer if you know what i mean :wink:
Miraria - mir
Robb - rob
David Morcerf

Borgoto wrote:

That's not how I roll.

Are you sure?
[make a persuasion check] DeMorcerf previously rolled 1d20 = 7 +1 CHA
Mathieu

DeMorcerf wrote:

Borgoto wrote:

That's not how I roll.

Are you sure?
[make a persuasion check] DeMorcerf previously rolled 1d20 = 7 +1 CHA


I wish I had a +1 in Cha! I also need to get some skill training!
David Morcerf

Borgoto wrote:

DeMorcerf wrote:

Kiwi13cubed wrote:

claim seer but only after Dake claims it

[claim beholder]
[vote kiwi]



Yeah I don't think the nicknames need to be in tallies. I do think a link to the handy dandy app that lets you read a single player's posts is great!

So i'm in LL but I don't know what do to about it yet! any tips?

My tip: don't say things like ^ that sound like you are worried about being in LL a few hours into the game, but it's too late for that.
*bu dump chichz* [waits for laughter]
[makes a performance check] DeMorcerf previously rolled 1d20 = 12 +1 CHA
Mathieu

gelrod wrote:

DeMorcerf wrote:

gelrod wrote:

Let's run someone up fast this time.

Also, to be clear, I will not be providing my read of Jared for a minimum of two days. I may vote him in those two days but I will not try to create a compelling case for or against him because I'm sick of our meta.

Wanting fast run up but intentionally delaying reads seems conflicting positions.
[vote gelrod]


Big negatives on demo early on for this post. I'm delaying reads on Jared because the last dozen or so games we've played together involved us either "catching" one another or the thread expecting us to. Go read the other game I'm in. Made the exact same declaration in that one.

In fact, LJ gave me the idea based on something similar you two had to do at one point.


I don't understand. If you thought he was evil you would not tell us?
Mathieu

DeMorcerf wrote:

Borgoto wrote:

DeMorcerf wrote:

Kiwi13cubed wrote:

claim seer but only after Dake claims it

[claim beholder]
[vote kiwi]



Yeah I don't think the nicknames need to be in tallies. I do think a link to the handy dandy app that lets you read a single player's posts is great!

So i'm in LL but I don't know what do to about it yet! any tips?

My tip: don't say things like ^ that sound like you are worried about being in LL a few hours into the game, but it's too late for that.
*bu dump chichz* [waits for laughter]
[makes a performance check] DeMorcerf previously rolled 1d20 = 12 +1 CHA


I always worry when i'm in LL. I dont think only evil fear the lynch!
David Morcerf

gelrod wrote:

DeMorcerf wrote:

gelrod wrote:

Let's run someone up fast this time.

Also, to be clear, I will not be providing my read of Jared for a minimum of two days. I may vote him in those two days but I will not try to create a compelling case for or against him because I'm sick of our meta.

Wanting fast run up but intentionally delaying reads seems conflicting positions.
[vote gelrod]


Big negatives on demo early on for this post. I'm delaying reads on Jared because the last dozen or so games we've played together involved us either "catching" one another or the thread expecting us to. Go read the other game I'm in. Made the exact same declaration in that one.

Ain't nobody got time to read other games. And don't change the fact that they are conflicting. So you can suck on your negatives for now, I hear they taste great with sea salt.
David Morcerf

Borgoto wrote:

gelrod wrote:

DeMorcerf wrote:

gelrod wrote:

Let's run someone up fast this time.

Also, to be clear, I will not be providing my read of Jared for a minimum of two days. I may vote him in those two days but I will not try to create a compelling case for or against him because I'm sick of our meta.

Wanting fast run up but intentionally delaying reads seems conflicting positions.
[vote gelrod]


Big negatives on demo early on for this post. I'm delaying reads on Jared because the last dozen or so games we've played together involved us either "catching" one another or the thread expecting us to. Go read the other game I'm in. Made the exact same declaration in that one.

In fact, LJ gave me the idea based on something similar you two had to do at one point.


I don't understand. If you thought he was evil you would not tell us?

Right? If you can catch each other, then do it when you can do it. If you don't like that, then learn to fool each other better? Odds are in favour every game that you'll both be Good anyway, so you won't be catching each other but clearing each other and helping your team hunt evil faster.
Mathieu
I play WW with friends I have known for years and I'm pretty sure 98% is a huge exageration
Mathieu
I don't know what to say, I feel you guys should try to trick each other instead of giving up.
Aaron

gelrod wrote:

DeMorcerf wrote:

gelrod wrote:

Let's run someone up fast this time.

Also, to be clear, I will not be providing my read of Jared for a minimum of two days. I may vote him in those two days but I will not try to create a compelling case for or against him because I'm sick of our meta.

Wanting fast run up but intentionally delaying reads seems conflicting positions.
[vote gelrod]


Big negatives on demo early on for this post. I'm delaying reads on Jared because the last dozen or so games we've played together involved us either "catching" one another or the thread expecting us to. Go read the other game I'm in. Made the exact same declaration in that one.

In fact, LJ gave me the idea based on something similar you two had to do at one point.


Is this something that DeMo should know?
Robb Effinger

Kiwi13cubed wrote:

Borgoto wrote:

DeMorcerf wrote:

Kiwi13cubed wrote:

claim seer but only after Dake claims it

[claim beholder]
[vote kiwi]



Yeah I don't think the nicknames need to be in tallies. I do think a link to the handy dandy app that lets you read a single player's posts is great!

So i'm in LL but I don't know what do to about it yet! any tips?

They were added to tallies by request, actually. People kept making votes that didn't take because what nicknames were registered for what people was unclear.

If you have a different suggestion about how to avoid that problem, let me know. I was reluctant to add them to tallies for that very reason.

I'm not sure where I want to put links--I don't want to put them on the claims because it felt like the claim and username needed color separation--would putting it in the tally work? The only issue would be that people who were never voted on wouldn't show up.


Could you have a list of tallies in the signup post? It's generally going to be on the first page, so people can reference it easily if they want the info, but isn't always being posted.
Robb Effinger
vote Jared

I've got another solution to the problem of you two always being able to read each other. We lynch one of you!

I'm currently leaning towards Jared, because he likes to play these fast and loose, and honestly, given how much he didn't enjoy the last one, I'm surprised to see him at another.... but maybe people can sway me onto gelrod instead! Rumor has it they're basically the same person anyway.
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Borgoto - 3 - Smugvid (1), Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11), JaredW25 (12)
gelrod - 2 - absnook (2), JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13)
PeteVasi - 1 - ljtrigirl (8)
AnneAa - 1 - Borgoto (9)
JaredW25 - 1 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14)
Smugvid - 0 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10)
Not voting: AnneAa, Miraria, PeteVasi

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Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)

Nicknames:
Smugvid - smug
Borgoto - mistake, borg
PeteVasi - pete
absnook - abs
AnneAa - anne
JaredW25 - jared
DeMorcerf - demo
gelrod - god, ( ???????????? ???????????? ????????????)
ljtrigirl - lj, i really just want this nickname to be longer than kiwi's because it seems like the kind of overkill that i can get into someone can vote me with it if they really want to but mine's longer if you know what i mean :wink:
Miraria - mir
Robb - rob
Dave ??arski-Riley

gelrod wrote:

DeMorcerf wrote:

gelrod wrote:

Let's run someone up fast this time.

Also, to be clear, I will not be providing my read of Jared for a minimum of two days. I may vote him in those two days but I will not try to create a compelling case for or against him because I'm sick of our meta.

Wanting fast run up but intentionally delaying reads seems conflicting positions.
[vote gelrod]


Big negatives on demo early on for this post. I'm delaying reads on Jared because the last dozen or so games we've played together involved us either "catching" one another or the thread expecting us to. Go read the other game I'm in. Made the exact same declaration in that one.

In fact, LJ gave me the idea based on something similar you two had to do at one point.


Demo probably hadn't seen any of those games, so no big deal in my view.
Dave ??arski-Riley
Tentative Good read on Borgoto for being edgy. I have a theory there.

Vote Jared to poke at him, for science and for the greater glory of Arstotzka.
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Borgoto - 2 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11), JaredW25 (12)
gelrod - 2 - absnook (2), JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13)
JaredW25 - 2 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14), Smugvid (15)
PeteVasi - 1 - ljtrigirl (8)
AnneAa - 1 - Borgoto (9)
Smugvid - 0 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10)
Not voting: AnneAa, Miraria, PeteVasi

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Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)

Nicknames:
Smugvid - smug
Borgoto - mistake, borg
PeteVasi - pete
absnook - abs
AnneAa - anne
JaredW25 - jared
DeMorcerf - demo
gelrod - god, ( ???????????? ???????????? ????????????)
ljtrigirl - lj, i really just want this nickname to be longer than kiwi's because it seems like the kind of overkill that i can get into someone can vote me with it if they really want to but mine's longer if you know what i mean :wink:
Miraria - mir
Robb - rob
Pok??mon Ranger Anne

Robb wrote:

vote Jared

I've got another solution to the problem of you two always being able to read each other. We lynch one of you!

I'm currently leaning towards Jared, because he likes to play these fast and loose, and honestly, given how much he didn't enjoy the last one, I'm surprised to see him at another.... but maybe people can sway me onto gelrod instead! Rumor has it they're basically the same person anyway.


vote Robb

I'm not sure if you're kidding or not?..
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Borgoto - 2 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11), JaredW25 (12)
gelrod - 2 - absnook (2), JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13)
JaredW25 - 2 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14), Smugvid (15)
PeteVasi - 1 - ljtrigirl (8)
AnneAa - 1 - Borgoto (9)
Robb - 1 - AnneAa (16)
Smugvid - 0 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10)
Not voting: Miraria, PeteVasi

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Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)

Nicknames:
Smugvid - smug
Borgoto - mistake, borg
PeteVasi - pete
absnook - abs
AnneAa - anne
JaredW25 - jared
DeMorcerf - demo
gelrod - god, ( ???????????? ???????????? ????????????)
ljtrigirl - lj, i really just want this nickname to be longer than kiwi's because it seems like the kind of overkill that i can get into someone can vote me with it if they really want to but mine's longer if you know what i mean :wink:
Miraria - mir
Robb - rob
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
gelrod - 2 - absnook (2), JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13)
JaredW25 - 2 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14), Smugvid (15)
Robb - 2 - AnneAa (16), JaredW25 (17)
PeteVasi - 1 - ljtrigirl (8)
AnneAa - 1 - Borgoto (9)
Borgoto - 1 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11), JaredW25 (12)
Smugvid - 0 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10)
Not voting: Miraria, PeteVasi

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Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)

Nicknames:
Smugvid - smug
Borgoto - mistake, borg
PeteVasi - pete
absnook - abs
AnneAa - anne
JaredW25 - jared
DeMorcerf - demo
gelrod - god, ( ???????????? ???????????? ????????????)
ljtrigirl - lj, i really just want this nickname to be longer than kiwi's because it seems like the kind of overkill that i can get into someone can vote me with it if they really want to but mine's longer if you know what i mean :wink:
Miraria - mir
Robb - rob
L Squared

Borgoto wrote:

I don't know what to say, I feel you guys should try to trick each other instead of giving up.


Lol. That's not how it works. I mean, they can/do try, but when people treat their reads on each other like seer views, it brings in all of this weird meta.

It's part of the reason I refused to give reads on DeMo for at least a few days for a while.
L Squared

absnook wrote:

gelrod wrote:

DeMorcerf wrote:

gelrod wrote:

Let's run someone up fast this time.

Also, to be clear, I will not be providing my read of Jared for a minimum of two days. I may vote him in those two days but I will not try to create a compelling case for or against him because I'm sick of our meta.

Wanting fast run up but intentionally delaying reads seems conflicting positions.
[vote gelrod]


Big negatives on demo early on for this post. I'm delaying reads on Jared because the last dozen or so games we've played together involved us either "catching" one another or the thread expecting us to. Go read the other game I'm in. Made the exact same declaration in that one.

In fact, LJ gave me the idea based on something similar you two had to do at one point.


Is this something that DeMo should know?


It's something he should understand.
L Squared

Robb wrote:

vote Jared

I've got another solution to the problem of you two always being able to read each other. We lynch one of you!

I'm currently leaning towards Jared, because he likes to play these fast and loose, and honestly, given how much he didn't enjoy the last one, I'm surprised to see him at another.... but maybe people can sway me onto gelrod instead! Rumor has it they're basically the same person anyway.


Is this a real vote or a metavote?
L Squared
Yeah. I think nicknames in the signup post would be way better. This makes the tallies super long.
Aaron
*Wake up*

It's time to switch to summoning-vote phase! [vote AnneAa]
L Squared

absnook wrote:

*Wake up*

It's time to switch to summoning-vote phase! [vote AnneAa]


Hmm. She's said stuff and was the first one to make a real vote, if I remember right. Why are you summoning her?
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
JaredW25 - 2 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14), Smugvid (15)
Robb - 2 - AnneAa (16), JaredW25 (17)
AnneAa - 2 - Borgoto (9), absnook (18)
PeteVasi - 1 - ljtrigirl (8)
Borgoto - 1 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11), JaredW25 (12)
gelrod - 1 - absnook (2) , JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13)
Smugvid - 0 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10)
Not voting: Miraria, PeteVasi

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Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)

Nicknames:
Smugvid - smug
Borgoto - mistake, borg
PeteVasi - pete
absnook - abs
AnneAa - anne
JaredW25 - jared
DeMorcerf - demo
gelrod - god, ( ???????????? ???????????? ????????????)
ljtrigirl - lj, i really just want this nickname to be longer than kiwi's because it seems like the kind of overkill that i can get into someone can vote me with it if they really want to but mine's longer if you know what i mean :wink:
Miraria - mir
Robb - rob
Aaron

ljtrigirl wrote:

absnook wrote:

*Wake up*

It's time to switch to summoning-vote phase! [vote AnneAa]


Hmm. She's said stuff and was the first one to make a real vote, if I remember right. Why are you summoning her?


I can't seem to find that post - am I missing something?

...Oh, hiding in plain sight - the Robb vote, just a few posts back. [vote PeteVasi]
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
JaredW25 - 2 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14), Smugvid (15)
Robb - 2 - AnneAa (16), JaredW25 (17)
PeteVasi - 2 - ljtrigirl (8), absnook (19)
AnneAa - 1 - Borgoto (9), absnook (18)
Borgoto - 1 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11), JaredW25 (12)
gelrod - 1 - absnook (2) , JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13)
Smugvid - 0 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10)
Not voting: Miraria, PeteVasi

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Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)

Nicknames:
Smugvid - smug
Borgoto - mistake, borg
PeteVasi - pete
absnook - abs
AnneAa - anne
JaredW25 - jared
DeMorcerf - demo
gelrod - god, ( ???????????? ???????????? ????????????)
ljtrigirl - lj, i really just want this nickname to be longer than kiwi's because it seems like the kind of overkill that i can get into someone can vote me with it if they really want to but mine's longer if you know what i mean :wink:
Miraria - mir
Robb - rob
L Squared

JaredW25 wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

absnook wrote:

gelrod wrote:

DeMorcerf wrote:

gelrod wrote:

Let's run someone up fast this time.

Also, to be clear, I will not be providing my read of Jared for a minimum of two days. I may vote him in those two days but I will not try to create a compelling case for or against him because I'm sick of our meta.

Wanting fast run up but intentionally delaying reads seems conflicting positions.
[vote gelrod]


Big negatives on demo early on for this post. I'm delaying reads on Jared because the last dozen or so games we've played together involved us either "catching" one another or the thread expecting us to. Go read the other game I'm in. Made the exact same declaration in that one.

In fact, LJ gave me the idea based on something similar you two had to do at one point.


Is this something that DeMo should know?


It's something he should understand.

Do you think we should lynch him for it?


I don't know yet.

If he's evil, I'll figure it out sooner or later.
Aaron
*Sleep*
Dave ??arski-Riley

ljtrigirl wrote:

Robb wrote:

vote Jared

I've got another solution to the problem of you two always being able to read each other. We lynch one of you!

I'm currently leaning towards Jared, because he likes to play these fast and loose, and honestly, given how much he didn't enjoy the last one, I'm surprised to see him at another.... but maybe people can sway me onto gelrod instead! Rumor has it they're basically the same person anyway.


Is this a real vote or a metavote?


I took it as semi-real. At least deliberately real enough to create conversation. I think it can be slow to kick these off, so it's a positive move in my book.
Dave ??arski-Riley

gelrod wrote:

Does anyone else think the only thing that could possibly make majority rules better is no reveal?


It'd be a bit shit if you were the Mimic.
Robb Effinger

AnneAa wrote:

Robb wrote:

vote Jared

I've got another solution to the problem of you two always being able to read each other. We lynch one of you!

I'm currently leaning towards Jared, because he likes to play these fast and loose, and honestly, given how much he didn't enjoy the last one, I'm surprised to see him at another.... but maybe people can sway me onto gelrod instead! Rumor has it they're basically the same person anyway.


vote Robb

I'm not sure if you're kidding or not?..


Me neither!
Robb Effinger

JaredW25 wrote:

Robb wrote:

vote Jared

I've got another solution to the problem of you two always being able to read each other. We lynch one of you!

I'm currently leaning towards Jared, because he likes to play these fast and loose, and honestly, given how much he didn't enjoy the last one, I'm surprised to see him at another.... but maybe people can sway me onto gelrod instead! Rumor has it they're basically the same person anyway.

You'd prefer to lynch somebody who in the next day or so will be likely basically cleared? Can you explain that? Surely you don't mean what I think you mean...

And fast and loose? I am working on my patience. I do expect people to relatively keep up, but "discipline lynching" is pro-evil no matter how you slice it.


You're only going to be "cleared" if gelrod is good, and you are good. That's like 2/3 * 2/3 = 4/9 ~= 50/50 anyway. Factor in that you both have to be alive as well... odds drop further. And I really don't believe that you and gelrod refusing to read each other makes you both unlynchable for 2 days in an 11 player game.... do you?
[vote gelrod]
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
JaredW25 - 2 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14), Smugvid (15)
Robb - 2 - AnneAa (16), JaredW25 (17)
PeteVasi - 2 - ljtrigirl (8), absnook (19)
gelrod - 2 - absnook (2) , JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13), PeteVasi (20)
AnneAa - 1 - Borgoto (9), absnook (18)
Borgoto - 1 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11), JaredW25 (12)
Smugvid - 0 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10)
Not voting: Miraria

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Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)

Nicknames:
Smugvid - smug
Borgoto - mistake, borg
PeteVasi - pete
absnook - abs
AnneAa - anne
JaredW25 - jared
DeMorcerf - demo
gelrod - god, ( ???????????? ???????????? ????????????)
ljtrigirl - lj, i really just want this nickname to be longer than kiwi's because it seems like the kind of overkill that i can get into someone can vote me with it if they really want to but mine's longer if you know what i mean :wink:
Miraria - mir
Robb - rob
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
PeteVasi - 3 - ljtrigirl (8), absnook (19), JaredW25 (21)
JaredW25 - 2 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14), Smugvid (15)
gelrod - 2 - absnook (2) , JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13), PeteVasi (20)
AnneAa - 1 - Borgoto (9), absnook (18)
Borgoto - 1 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11), JaredW25 (12)
Robb - 1 - AnneAa (16), JaredW25 (17)
Smugvid - 0 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10)
Not voting: Miraria

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Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)

Nicknames:
Smugvid - smug
Borgoto - mistake, borg
PeteVasi - pete
absnook - abs
AnneAa - anne
JaredW25 - jared
DeMorcerf - demo
gelrod - god, ( ???????????? ???????????? ????????????)
ljtrigirl - lj, i really just want this nickname to be longer than kiwi's because it seems like the kind of overkill that i can get into someone can vote me with it if they really want to but mine's longer if you know what i mean :wink:
Miraria - mir
Robb - rob
Dave ??arski-Riley
Any reasons for these votes?
Dave ??arski-Riley
Well, I can guess Jared's, but let's here them anyway.
Dave ??arski-Riley

JaredW25 wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Well, I can guess Jared's, but let's here them anyway.

(Insert convincing reasons)


I would be convinced, but I don't want to put Pete at 4. I like him.
"(Insert meta reasons)" would have been funnier.

Another jargel show doesn't excite me, and unfortunately jared sounds less evil than gel.

I like you too smug.

Goodish on Robb too, which likely means he's evil.

Forgettable reads on everyone else, mostly I'm just annoyed.
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
PeteVasi - 4 - ljtrigirl (8), absnook (19), JaredW25 (21), gelrod (22)
JaredW25 - 2 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14), Smugvid (15)
gelrod - 2 - absnook (2) , JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13), PeteVasi (20)
AnneAa - 1 - Borgoto (9), absnook (18)
Robb - 1 - AnneAa (16), JaredW25 (17)
Smugvid - 0 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10)
Borgoto - 0 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11) , JaredW25 (12)
Not voting: Miraria

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Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)

Nicknames:
Smugvid - smug
Borgoto - mistake, borg
PeteVasi - pete
absnook - abs
AnneAa - anne
JaredW25 - jared
DeMorcerf - demo
gelrod - god, ( ???????????? ???????????? ????????????)
ljtrigirl - lj, i really just want this nickname to be longer than kiwi's because it seems like the kind of overkill that i can get into someone can vote me with it if they really want to but mine's longer if you know what i mean :wink:
Miraria - mir
Robb - rob
L Squared
unvote
Dave ??arski-Riley

ljtrigirl wrote:

unvote


This doesn't work, vote for me instead.
Pok??mon Ranger Anne
Cool. Smug and Pete are my suspects as well, I think Pete is more wolfy and smug more auxy.
Robb Effinger

AnneAa wrote:

Cool. Smug and Pete are my suspects as well, I think Pete is more wolfy and smug more auxy.


Why is this?

JaredW25 wrote:

For the record, calling it the Jared-Gerald show is frustrating to at least me.

If you don't like the content or direction of a game, you have the power to change it by posting.

I get that this is a slowe paced game. I literally signed up so I could work on patience, which is why I'm not bitching about the lack of movement. I won't bitch, even if it takes a few weeks, but I will vote on people with high quantities of votes on d1 because I think any lynch gives us information.

JaredW25 wrote:

It's also hard to overlook personal insinuations with statements like "unfortunately my reads don't support lynching Jared", but I'm trying.

Anyway, I'm okay with lynching smug snd Pete. I'd also lynch Gerald's seat just from remnants of kiwi, but I'd probably prefer to let that ferment and see if anything develops.

Not okay lynching LJ today as much fun as it sounds. Likewise I probably also won't lynch Anne.


Both were intended to be personal. I hadn't even read the thread yet and you've caused a player to ragequit and replace out. I can't post to change the direction of the thread, it's already been done. As such, I'm annoyed. I should probably just take a deep breath and start this game over. Maybe Monday.
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
PeteVasi - 4 - ljtrigirl (8), absnook (19), JaredW25 (21) , gelrod (22), JaredW25* (23)
JaredW25 - 2 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14), Smugvid (15)
gelrod - 2 - absnook (2) , JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13), PeteVasi (20)
AnneAa - 1 - Borgoto (9), absnook (18)
Robb - 1 - AnneAa (16), JaredW25 (17)
Smugvid - 0 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10)
Borgoto - 0 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11) , JaredW25 (12)
Not voting: Miraria

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Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)

Nicknames:
Smugvid - smug
Borgoto - mistake, borg
PeteVasi - pete
absnook - abs
AnneAa - anne
JaredW25 - jared
DeMorcerf - demo
gelrod - god, ( ???????????? ???????????? ????????????)
ljtrigirl - lj, i really just want this nickname to be longer than kiwi's because it seems like the kind of overkill that i can get into someone can vote me with it if they really want to but mine's longer if you know what i mean :wink:
Miraria - mir
Robb - rob
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
PeteVasi - 4 - ljtrigirl (8), absnook (19), JaredW25 (21) , gelrod (22), JaredW25* (23)
JaredW25 - 2 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14), Smugvid (15)
gelrod - 2 - absnook (2) , JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13), PeteVasi (20)
AnneAa - 1 - Borgoto (9), absnook (18)
Robb - 1 - AnneAa (16), JaredW25 (17)
Smugvid - 0 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10)
Borgoto - 0 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11) , JaredW25 (12)
Not voting: Miraria

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Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)

Nicknames:
Smugvid - smug
Borgoto - mistake, borg
PeteVasi - pete
absnook - abs
AnneAa - anne
JaredW25 - jared
DeMorcerf - demo
gelrod - god, ( ???????????? ???????????? ????????????)
ljtrigirl - lj, i really just want this nickname to be longer than kiwi's because it seems like the kind of overkill that i can get into someone can vote me with it if they really want to but mine's longer if you know what i mean :wink:
Miraria - mir
Robb - rob
Dave ??arski-Riley

JaredW25 wrote:

vote petevasi
nightfall

In case it didn't take.


Well, it takes, but it doesn't count. This is just sad.
Dave ??arski-Riley

Robb wrote:

AnneAa wrote:

Cool. Smug and Pete are my suspects as well, I think Pete is more wolfy and smug more auxy.


Why is this?


Because I won't vote Pete, I guess.
L Squared
*sigh*

vote miraria
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
PeteVasi - 3 - ljtrigirl (8) , absnook (19), JaredW25 (21) , gelrod (22), JaredW25* (23)
JaredW25 - 2 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14), Smugvid (15)
gelrod - 2 - absnook (2) , JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13), PeteVasi (20)
AnneAa - 1 - Borgoto (9), absnook (18)
Robb - 1 - AnneAa (16), JaredW25 (17)
Miraria - 1 - ljtrigirl (24)
Smugvid - 0 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10)
Borgoto - 0 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11) , JaredW25 (12)
Not voting: Miraria

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Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)

Nicknames:
Smugvid - smug
Borgoto - mistake, borg
PeteVasi - pete
absnook - abs
AnneAa - anne
JaredW25 - jared
DeMorcerf - demo
gelrod - god, ( ???????????? ???????????? ????????????)
ljtrigirl - lj, i really just want this nickname to be longer than kiwi's because it seems like the kind of overkill that i can get into someone can vote me with it if they really want to but mine's longer if you know what i mean :wink:
Miraria - mir
Robb - rob
L Squared
With all of this righteous anger stuff, I'm finding it hard to get actual reads on people.
L Squared
OMG. Can I unnickname?
L Squared
I kinda think Robb is good? Which weirds me out because I never thing Robb is good.
Dave ??arski-Riley

gelrod wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Robb wrote:

AnneAa wrote:

Cool. Smug and Pete are my suspects as well, I think Pete is more wolfy and smug more auxy.


Why is this?


Because I won't vote Pete, I guess.


Why not?


Because he hasn't done anything that makes me want to vote him. He's made three posts.
Pok??mon Ranger Anne

gelrod wrote:

I'm thinking about it and does anyone recall an evil being lynched d1 I'm a majority rules game where it wasn't just an obvious screw up on the part of evil? I feel like it should be nearly impossible to lynch a wolf in majority format d1 of the wolf team is well coordinated.


You can catch a wolf D1, not forgetting to lynch him is the trick
Dave ??arski-Riley

gelrod wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

gelrod wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Robb wrote:

AnneAa wrote:

Cool. Smug and Pete are my suspects as well, I think Pete is more wolfy and smug more auxy.


Why is this?


Because I won't vote Pete, I guess.


Why not?


Because he hasn't done anything that makes me want to vote him. He's made three posts.


Idk. I guess with majority rules I just play it differently than everyone else. I literally just try to lynch whoever seems to be taking hold and then interpret from there.


I see the merit of that idea, but D1 has value in all cases and in MR games, I think the slow ebb and flow of stuff gives us a lot to look back on. If it was all about LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH, we may as well just nightfall on our metas in any game and see what happens (I appreciate that you might agree with that).
Robb Effinger
Three more for Science.
Dave ??arski-Riley

AnneAa wrote:

gelrod wrote:

I'm thinking about it and does anyone recall an evil being lynched d1 I'm a majority rules game where it wasn't just an obvious screw up on the part of evil? I feel like it should be nearly impossible to lynch a wolf in majority format d1 of the wolf team is well coordinated.


You can catch a wolf D1, not forgetting to lynch him is the trick


Oh man, something about this pings me. Anne, I am Good, just like I promised, are we on opposing teams again?
Pok??mon Ranger Anne

Smugvid wrote:

AnneAa wrote:

gelrod wrote:

I'm thinking about it and does anyone recall an evil being lynched d1 I'm a majority rules game where it wasn't just an obvious screw up on the part of evil? I feel like it should be nearly impossible to lynch a wolf in majority format d1 of the wolf team is well coordinated.


You can catch a wolf D1, not forgetting to lynch him is the trick


Oh man, something about this pings me. Anne, I am Good, just like I promised, are we on opposing teams again?


What pings you about it?
Dave ??arski-Riley

AnneAa wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

AnneAa wrote:

gelrod wrote:

I'm thinking about it and does anyone recall an evil being lynched d1 I'm a majority rules game where it wasn't just an obvious screw up on the part of evil? I feel like it should be nearly impossible to lynch a wolf in majority format d1 of the wolf team is well coordinated.


You can catch a wolf D1, not forgetting to lynch him is the trick


Oh man, something about this pings me. Anne, I am Good, just like I promised, are we on opposing teams again?


What pings you about it?


Wait, it sounded like you were knowledgeable, but you were in the last one. Is this a reference to Dake? It was Dake who dodged lynch, right?
Pok??mon Ranger Anne
Yes.
Dave ??arski-Riley

gelrod wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

gelrod wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

gelrod wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Robb wrote:

AnneAa wrote:

Cool. Smug and Pete are my suspects as well, I think Pete is more wolfy and smug more auxy.


Why is this?


Because I won't vote Pete, I guess.


Why not?


Because he hasn't done anything that makes me want to vote him. He's made three posts.


Idk. I guess with majority rules I just play it differently than everyone else. I literally just try to lynch whoever seems to be taking hold and then interpret from there.


I see the merit of that idea, but D1 has value in all cases and in MR games, I think the slow ebb and flow of stuff gives us a lot to look back on. If it was all about LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH, we may as well just nightfall on our metas in any game and see what happens (I appreciate that you might agree with that).


Lol. It's not so much "lynch lynch lynch" as it is looking for lynch resistance. I think it's much more important in MR than other games. Bussing becomes quite a bit more risky when it might otherwise be impossible to get that hammer vote, things move a lot, etc...


Oh, okay. I think my aim here is to give everyone enough rope that they can lynch themselves.

Will I vote for Pete with three posts? No. Will I vote for Pete eventually? Possibly. But I think my refusal to vote for Pete is something to talk about, like Robb's vote before, and those somethings to talk about are worthwhile. I guess it's a bit of a "not listing Vanders in my won't lynch list". It's a thing I've done deliberately to see what happens from there. I might get lynched for it down the line, probably will if we lynch Pete "today" and he flips Wolf, but I'm willing to take that risk.
Dave ??arski-Riley

AnneAa wrote:

Yes.


That's cool then. I was reading it as us having had something and letting it go and you trying to be all cool about that rather than "you bozos should have lynched Dake last time out". Ignore me.
L Squared
Ok. Here's the deal. We're all fucking friends so be that.
L Squared

JaredW25 wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Ok. Here's the deal. We're all fucking friends so be that.

I've only been inside one person on BGG. So I don't know that we are all "fucking" friends. But I do like to think we are all friends.

PS - it wasn't Gerald whistle


I would watch that.
Dave ??arski-Riley
I'm putting Gel up with Pete, even if just to practice his own theory on him.

Vote gelrod
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
PeteVasi - 3 - ljtrigirl (8) , absnook (19), JaredW25 (21) , gelrod (22), JaredW25* (23)
gelrod - 3 - absnook (2) , JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13), PeteVasi (20), Smugvid (25)
AnneAa - 1 - Borgoto (9), absnook (18)
JaredW25 - 1 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14), Smugvid (15)
Robb - 1 - AnneAa (16), JaredW25 (17)
Miraria - 1 - ljtrigirl (24)
Smugvid - 0 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10)
Borgoto - 0 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11) , JaredW25 (12)
Not voting: Miraria

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Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)
L Squared

gelrod wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Ok. Here's the deal. We're all fucking friends so be that.

I've only been inside one person on BGG. So I don't know that we are all "fucking" friends. But I do like to think we are all friends.

PS - it wasn't Gerald whistle


I would watch that.


I'd watch Jared fuck a sloth, too. Doesn't mean it would be entertaining.


I think I was talking about you two, but I don't really remember.
L Squared
I'm probably not moving from Mir until she shows up, and rushing to majority without everyone participating is dumb.
Pok??mon Ranger Anne
unvote Robb

or vote miraria
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
PeteVasi - 3 - ljtrigirl (8) , absnook (19), JaredW25 (21) , gelrod (22), JaredW25* (23)
gelrod - 3 - absnook (2) , JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13), PeteVasi (20), Smugvid (25)
Miraria - 2 - ljtrigirl (24), AnneAa (26)
AnneAa - 1 - Borgoto (9), absnook (18)
JaredW25 - 1 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14), Smugvid (15)
Smugvid - 0 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10)
Borgoto - 0 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11) , JaredW25 (12)
Robb - 0 - AnneAa (16) , JaredW25 (17)
Not voting: Miraria

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Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)
David Morcerf

JaredW25 wrote:

Robb wrote:

vote Jared

I've got another solution to the problem of you two always being able to read each other. We lynch one of you!

I'm currently leaning towards Jared, because he likes to play these fast and loose, and honestly, given how much he didn't enjoy the last one, I'm surprised to see him at another.... but maybe people can sway me onto gelrod instead! Rumor has it they're basically the same person anyway.

You'd prefer to lynch somebody who in the next day or so will be likely basically cleared? Can you explain that? Surely you don't mean what I think you mean...

And fast and loose? I am working on my patience. I do expect people to relatively keep up, but "discipline lynching" is pro-evil no matter how you slice it.

You will be cleared how -- by reads btw you and gel? By "next day or so" do you mean real-time or game-time?

Policy-lynching is not helpful for village in the game it occurs, but many people get smug self-satisfaction from it.
David Morcerf

absnook wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

absnook wrote:

*Wake up*

It's time to switch to summoning-vote phase! [vote AnneAa]


Hmm. She's said stuff and was the first one to make a real vote, if I remember right. Why are you summoning her?


I can't seem to find that post - am I missing something?

...Oh, hiding in plain sight - the Robb vote, just a few posts back. [vote PeteVasi]

Summoning-votes are lazy, man. And I don't believe they work, esp without cassy. If someone isn't checking in to post, then they aren't checking in to see they have votes either, right?
David Morcerf

JaredW25 wrote:

Likewise I probably also won't lynch Anne.

What's Anne done?
David Morcerf

AnneAa wrote:

Cool. Smug and Pete are my suspects as well, I think Pete is more wolfy and smug more auxy.

After just 2 posts from Pete, you think he is specifically a wolf?
Why is smug specifically the mimic?
David Morcerf

gelrod wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

I'm probably not moving from Mir until she shows up, and rushing to majority without everyone participating is dumb.


I could vote Mir.

Choosing not to pressure people who are playing and summoning vote instead? We can pressure/put near-majority people even without everyone here yet. Why would we wait? -- And isn't it typical for miraria to take a while to show up and not play on weekends, that feels standard.

[vote ljtrigirl]
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
PeteVasi - 3 - ljtrigirl (8) , absnook (19), JaredW25 (21) , gelrod (22), JaredW25* (23)
gelrod - 2 - absnook (2) , JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13) , PeteVasi (20), Smugvid (25)
Miraria - 2 - ljtrigirl (24), AnneAa (26)
AnneAa - 1 - Borgoto (9), absnook (18)
JaredW25 - 1 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14), Smugvid (15)
ljtrigirl - 1 - DeMorcerf (27)
Smugvid - 0 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10)
Borgoto - 0 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11) , JaredW25 (12)
Robb - 0 - AnneAa (16) , JaredW25 (17)
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Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)
David Morcerf

AnneAa wrote:

unvote Robb

or vote miraria

So moving from person you said you thought was a wolf (without explaining why) to AFK-summoning vote?
David Morcerf

gelrod wrote:

I want to lynch demo. He's not RP'ing and it's giving me the skeevies because I understand everything he's saying.

I haven't RPed in the last several games we've had together (been Good in all of them), you didn't mention it in those ones; so are you serious or joking?
Pok??mon Ranger Anne

DeMorcerf wrote:

AnneAa wrote:

Cool. Smug and Pete are my suspects as well, I think Pete is more wolfy and smug more auxy.

After just 2 posts from Pete, you think he is specifically a wolf?
Why is smug specifically the mimic?


Smug's posts felt like he was trying to set up connections between him and others, that's auxy. Pete voted Gerald because he didn't want a jargelshow? I hadn't even seen a jargelshow yet. His reasons for his vote were lame. Pete was the wolfy one because smug was the auxy one.

DeMorcerf wrote:

AnneAa wrote:

unvote Robb

or vote miraria

So moving from person you said you thought was a wolf (without explaining why) to AFK-summoning vote?


Robb isn't Pete. I didn't want to vote Robb anymore, but since I can't unvote, I parked my vote on mir.
Dave ??arski-Riley
This is still because of me not voting Pete because he has no content right?

Unless I'd viewed him as Wolf, I wouldn't even know he was a Wolf, so I don't get your theory.
Pok??mon Ranger Anne

Smugvid wrote:

This is still because of me not voting Pete because he has no content right?

Unless I'd viewed him as Wolf, I wouldn't even know he was a Wolf, so I don't get your theory.


No. It's about posts like this one:

Smugvid wrote:

gelrod wrote:

DeMorcerf wrote:

gelrod wrote:

Let's run someone up fast this time.

Also, to be clear, I will not be providing my read of Jared for a minimum of two days. I may vote him in those two days but I will not try to create a compelling case for or against him because I'm sick of our meta.

Wanting fast run up but intentionally delaying reads seems conflicting positions.
[vote gelrod]


Big negatives on demo early on for this post. I'm delaying reads on Jared because the last dozen or so games we've played together involved us either "catching" one another or the thread expecting us to. Go read the other game I'm in. Made the exact same declaration in that one.

In fact, LJ gave me the idea based on something similar you two had to do at one point.


Demo probably hadn't seen any of those games, so no big deal in my view.
Dave ??arski-Riley

AnneAa wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

This is still because of me not voting Pete because he has no content right?

Unless I'd viewed him as Wolf, I wouldn't even know he was a Wolf, so I don't get your theory.


No. It's about posts like this one:

Smugvid wrote:

gelrod wrote:

DeMorcerf wrote:

gelrod wrote:

Let's run someone up fast this time.

Also, to be clear, I will not be providing my read of Jared for a minimum of two days. I may vote him in those two days but I will not try to create a compelling case for or against him because I'm sick of our meta.

Wanting fast run up but intentionally delaying reads seems conflicting positions.
[vote gelrod]


Big negatives on demo early on for this post. I'm delaying reads on Jared because the last dozen or so games we've played together involved us either "catching" one another or the thread expecting us to. Go read the other game I'm in. Made the exact same declaration in that one.

In fact, LJ gave me the idea based on something similar you two had to do at one point.


Demo probably hadn't seen any of those games, so no big deal in my view.


Okay, cool. I'm not Evil, so you're off kilter, but I'm pleased you're looking.
Dave ??arski-Riley
That actually sounds really patronising, sorry.
Pok??mon Ranger Anne
Then who is evil?
Dave ??arski-Riley

AnneAa wrote:

Then who is evil?


I don't know yet. I just know I'm not. I have Borgoto as "probably not" and that's about it.
Robb Effinger
Good job, Demo.

I think I'm going to give you a D1 pass.
Mathieu

Robb wrote:

Good job, Demo.

I think I'm going to give you a D1 pass.


Good job on what?
Triumphant
yay! I'm here and I know what role I am.

Now I'm reading through the pages.
Aaron

gelrod wrote:

I want to lynch demo. He's not RP'ing and it's giving me the skeevies because I understand everything he's saying.


Is there any game you don't want to lynch DeMo?
Triumphant

Robb wrote:

vote Jared

I've got another solution to the problem of you two always being able to read each other. We lynch one of you!

I'm currently leaning towards Jared, because he likes to play these fast and loose, and honestly, given how much he didn't enjoy the last one, I'm surprised to see him at another.... but maybe people can sway me onto gelrod instead! Rumor has it they're basically the same person anyway.


which one was it that came out and said they were going to vote for the leader no matter their own reads?

Thats the one I want to vote.
Triumphant
oh also, to let everyone know, i do not and will not play on weekends. this probably counts around 4ish on Fridays to midday mondays. because I don't pick the game up until my Monday morning stuff is done at work.

Also, this thursday I am traveling to Toronto for castlecon. so I will likely not be around much thursday or friday.
Triumphant
the read of this is kind of making me not want to play this game.

i now remember why I only posted once and stepped away from teh thread and said "i'll come back later".

and now I want to do the same.

good lord.
Triumphant

JaredW25 wrote:

miraria wrote:

Robb wrote:

vote Jared

I've got another solution to the problem of you two always being able to read each other. We lynch one of you!

I'm currently leaning towards Jared, because he likes to play these fast and loose, and honestly, given how much he didn't enjoy the last one, I'm surprised to see him at another.... but maybe people can sway me onto gelrod instead! Rumor has it they're basically the same person anyway.


which one was it that came out and said they were going to vote for the leader no matter their own reads?

Thats the one I want to vote.

Because evil frequently alienates the entire village?


no, because it gives a convenient place to hide their own voting motivations. and not have to justify their reasons "hey, I told you I would vote the leader, it's YOU ALL that decided that was the leader, i just voted to move the day along".
Ok, panties unbunched. Let's play-fight instead of fight-fight. Go!

I don't really want to re-read the thread through, but let me see if I can make this modkiwi and/or print thread thing let me vertically read gelrod. He's still where my vote sits as top evil.
Dave ??arski-Riley

miraria wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

miraria wrote:

Robb wrote:

vote Jared

I've got another solution to the problem of you two always being able to read each other. We lynch one of you!

I'm currently leaning towards Jared, because he likes to play these fast and loose, and honestly, given how much he didn't enjoy the last one, I'm surprised to see him at another.... but maybe people can sway me onto gelrod instead! Rumor has it they're basically the same person anyway.


which one was it that came out and said they were going to vote for the leader no matter their own reads?

Thats the one I want to vote.

Because evil frequently alienates the entire village?


no, because it gives a convenient place to hide their own voting motivations. and not have to justify their reasons "hey, I told you I would vote the leader, it's YOU ALL that decided that was the leader, i just voted to move the day along".


I like this point.

gelrod wrote:

Now, I'm not ready to hard claim alignment yet

Seemed an odd thing to say.

gelrod wrote:

Borgoto wrote:

gelrod wrote:

DeMorcerf wrote:

gelrod wrote:

Let's run someone up fast this time.

Also, to be clear, I will not be providing my read of Jared for a minimum of two days. I may vote him in those two days but I will not try to create a compelling case for or against him because I'm sick of our meta.

Wanting fast run up but intentionally delaying reads seems conflicting positions.
[vote gelrod]


Big negatives on demo early on for this post. I'm delaying reads on Jared because the last dozen or so games we've played together involved us either "catching" one another or the thread expecting us to. Go read the other game I'm in. Made the exact same declaration in that one.

In fact, LJ gave me the idea based on something similar you two had to do at one point.


I don't understand. If you thought he was evil you would not tell us?


Because...and I'm not kidding...Jared and I can read each other with about 98% accuracy. We've known each other irl for years and are like brothers. It takes the fun out of it when everyone votes for one of us because we're accusing the other of being evil. It's selfish, sure, but the game loses a lot of it's fun when you're alignment is basically posted in the thread.

gelrod wrote:

Borgoto wrote:

gelrod wrote:

[vote borgoto]

Let's run someone up fast this time.


Why? I want everyone to have the opportunity to talk a little before we run people up.


That's not how I play majority rules. Day one I try to get through as quickly as possible...get someone dead...figure out who wanted them dead, who didn't want them dead, and who didn't really give a shit.

Analyze the nightkill for evidence of wolves and start d2 with a much better idea of what the fuck is happening. I will almost certainly stay on whoever the current leader is today, regardless of reads.

These two sequences seemed anti-village. First one I kind of get, but it's a team game and deliberately playing in a way that doesn't help your team doesn't seem like a solution to the read-ability problem.

The second is fast-and-loose, but I don't think that's how you catch evil. If we had it your way, someone would get run up fast and die, and there's very little discussion or information brought out. I don't mind a D1 that goes long simply because it's referencable later. All the little microinteractions that happened we can look at when there's more information. Unless it's been short-circuited to a quick lynch and there's lots less to look at.

(and also - the re-read stuff in modkiwi is really sweet)

Kiwi13cubed wrote:

PeteVasi wrote:

Ok, panties unbunched. Let's play-fight instead of fight-fight. Go!

I don't really want to re-read the thread through, but let me see if I can make this modkiwi and/or print thread thing let me vertically read gelrod. He's still where my vote sits as top evil.

http://mod-kiwi.appspot.com/thread?thread=1445222&username=g...

(something I need to fix is that it doesn't update player lists when players replace out)

Also - if you could update the link in modkiwi's profile page to the appspot one, that'd be awesome. It happened to be the first place I looked.
Looking at the player list, there's a couple that fell under my radar and need a re-read, maybe after I get done with some work. Borgoto, absnook.

gelrod wrote:

So are you saying I'm evil or you don't like the way I play? Because while I'm still not ready to hard claim alignment, I can tell you my play style is surprisingly effective.

I think you're evil. I think effectiveness is hard to judge in a subjective game. I believe that the idea of a fast D1 is harmful to the village in the long run and I think you understand that.

On the alignment thing, you're saying you might be good or evil but are not willing to say? I don't think it's an evil thing, but an odd thing.
Dave ??arski-Riley

Smugvid wrote:

miraria wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

miraria wrote:

Robb wrote:

vote Jared

I've got another solution to the problem of you two always being able to read each other. We lynch one of you!

I'm currently leaning towards Jared, because he likes to play these fast and loose, and honestly, given how much he didn't enjoy the last one, I'm surprised to see him at another.... but maybe people can sway me onto gelrod instead! Rumor has it they're basically the same person anyway.


which one was it that came out and said they were going to vote for the leader no matter their own reads?

Thats the one I want to vote.

Because evil frequently alienates the entire village?


no, because it gives a convenient place to hide their own voting motivations. and not have to justify their reasons "hey, I told you I would vote the leader, it's YOU ALL that decided that was the leader, i just voted to move the day along".


I like this point.


I'm actually concerned about this now. Every single time in the past I've made this type of post, the person's post I've liked has been a Wolf (or at least Evil). :/
Dave ??arski-Riley
Maybe I'll trust that for now.

vote Miraria
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Vote Tally:
PeteVasi - 3 - ljtrigirl (8) , absnook (19), JaredW25 (21) , gelrod (22), JaredW25* (23)
Miraria - 3 - ljtrigirl (24), AnneAa (26), Smugvid (28)
AnneAa - 1 - Borgoto (9), absnook (18)
JaredW25 - 1 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14), Smugvid (15)
gelrod - 1 - absnook (2) , JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13) , PeteVasi (20), Smugvid (25)
ljtrigirl - 1 - DeMorcerf (27)
Smugvid - 0 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10)
Borgoto - 0 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11) , JaredW25 (12)
Robb - 0 - AnneAa (16) , JaredW25 (17)
Not voting: Miraria

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Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)
Triumphant

Smugvid wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

miraria wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

miraria wrote:

Robb wrote:

vote Jared

I've got another solution to the problem of you two always being able to read each other. We lynch one of you!

I'm currently leaning towards Jared, because he likes to play these fast and loose, and honestly, given how much he didn't enjoy the last one, I'm surprised to see him at another.... but maybe people can sway me onto gelrod instead! Rumor has it they're basically the same person anyway.


which one was it that came out and said they were going to vote for the leader no matter their own reads?

Thats the one I want to vote.

Because evil frequently alienates the entire village?


no, because it gives a convenient place to hide their own voting motivations. and not have to justify their reasons "hey, I told you I would vote the leader, it's YOU ALL that decided that was the leader, i just voted to move the day along".


I like this point.


I'm actually concerned about this now. Every single time in the past I've made this type of post, the person's post I've liked has been a Wolf (or at least Evil). :/


hahahahaha! this made me laugh for some reason. I don't know why. Maybe it's because I read your last post and this one so close together.
Robb Effinger
So it seems like everyone has checked in and kinda started playing. How do people feel about their votes? Absnook, what's your reasoning for voting Pete? gelrod, Jared, you two are both voting Pete because you don't like his dislike of your playstyles?

Some of the Mir votes were summoning... that's happened.. so are any of those stale?

Borgoto, I don't know what your beef with Anne is.
I don't even remember what Demo's vote on lj is, but I'm guessing it was explained at the time, and besides, I believe I'm passing on DeMo.

Mir hasn't voted yet. Because we all look so shiny! I assume?
Mathieu
No time limits makes it hard for me to get motivation to really think.

I'll try and look through everything again this afternoon!

I have no beef with Anne it's still a metavote.
Robb Effinger

Borgoto wrote:

No time limits makes it hard for me to get motivation to really think.

I'll try and look through everything again this afternoon!

I have no beef with Anne it's still a metavote.


Eh, trying to look through everything before you do anything is a sure-fire way to never do anything in this game.

Because, as you pointed out, no time limits.

So new suggestion: If you don't look through everything this afternoon, then just do something anyway.

(I'm not saying that looking through everything is wrong or bad. It is really useful. But it's hard to do, and if the game goes on pause while you look through everything, then by the time you've done that I'll need to look through everything, and then Jared will, and then you will again by the time we've all acted).
Mathieu
I just reread Pete and Mir, I don't want to vote for Pete. He's is making interesting points and sounds pretty good to me.

Mir I have a neutral read on.

Annne looks pretty good compared to previous games with her.

Anyone can tell me about absnook's usual playstyle? Absnook maybe?

I feel LJ could be evil. Others I dont know enough about to judge. Would not be ready to put 6th vote on anyone.

vote LJ Come out and make some LJ style judgements please
Mathieu
Crosspost Robb! Since i'm good i'm sure that makes you good
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Vote Tally:
PeteVasi - 3 - ljtrigirl (8) , absnook (19), JaredW25 (21) , gelrod (22), JaredW25* (23)
Miraria - 3 - ljtrigirl (24), AnneAa (26), Smugvid (28)
ljtrigirl - 2 - DeMorcerf (27), Borgoto (29)
JaredW25 - 1 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14), Smugvid (15)
gelrod - 1 - absnook (2) , JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13) , PeteVasi (20), Smugvid (25)
Smugvid - 0 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10)
Borgoto - 0 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11) , JaredW25 (12)
AnneAa - 0 - Borgoto (9) , absnook (18)
Robb - 0 - AnneAa (16) , JaredW25 (17)
Not voting: Miraria

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Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)
Aaron

Borgoto wrote:


Anyone can tell me about absnook's usual playstyle? Absnook maybe?


*Wake up*

I plan on re-reading this game tonight - due to strained emotions, another game, and the lack of time limit, I've been focusing on the other one.

My playstyle is relatively straightforward - hunt wolves and try not to let on what my special role is if any. I focus on people I think I can read and let my teammates handle those I don't think I can read yet. I haven't pulled any crazy plays yet aside from self-shading on D1 if I don't like its pace (in the Thing). (Oh, there was that game I was the Neutral Cultist, and I was pretty wacky there.)
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Miraria - 3 - ljtrigirl (24), AnneAa (26), Smugvid (28)
PeteVasi - 2 - ljtrigirl (8) , absnook (19), JaredW25 (21) , gelrod (22) , JaredW25* (23)
ljtrigirl - 2 - DeMorcerf (27), Borgoto (29)
JaredW25 - 1 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14), Smugvid (15)
gelrod - 1 - absnook (2) , JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13) , PeteVasi (20), Smugvid (25)
Robb - 1 - AnneAa (16) , JaredW25 (17) , gelrod (30)
Smugvid - 0 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10)
Borgoto - 0 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11) , JaredW25 (12)
AnneAa - 0 - Borgoto (9) , absnook (18)
Not voting: Miraria

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Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)
Dave ??arski-Riley
I think I would vote for Mir (obviously), LJ or Demo at this point. Nothing too serious about any of them, but those are votes that I either have reasoning for or would be good lines of enquiry to see what happened.

I won't vote Robb or Borgoto barring craziness.
Dave ??arski-Riley
thumbsup

I have given my reasons for voting Mir; I think Demo and LJ pressure would be a good thing.
Mathieu

gelrod wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

I think I would vote for Mir (obviously), LJ or Demo at this point. Nothing too serious about any of them, but those are votes that I either have reasoning for or would be good lines of enquiry to see what happened.

I won't vote Robb or Borgoto barring craziness.


This makes me want to vote smug. First, he says he doesn't have anything serious but then says they're the ones he has reason to vote. To top it off he doesn't even give those reasons that don't exist. Second, he misspelled "inquiry". Next he's going to try to convince us "color" has a "u", "eon" has an "a" and "idolize" is spelled with an "s" and not a "z".

Get with the program smug.

[vote smug]

Also makes me more iffy on Robb and Borgoto.


Last game Smug called me good early and ended up being evil. I don't know if he'd do that 2 games in a row.
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Miraria - 3 - ljtrigirl (24), AnneAa (26), Smugvid (28)
PeteVasi - 2 - ljtrigirl (8) , absnook (19), JaredW25 (21) , gelrod (22) , JaredW25* (23)
ljtrigirl - 2 - DeMorcerf (27), Borgoto (29)
JaredW25 - 1 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14), Smugvid (15)
gelrod - 1 - absnook (2) , JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13) , PeteVasi (20), Smugvid (25)
Smugvid - 1 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10) , gelrod (31)
Borgoto - 0 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11) , JaredW25 (12)
AnneAa - 0 - Borgoto (9) , absnook (18)
Robb - 0 - AnneAa (16) , JaredW25 (17) , gelrod (30)
Not voting: Miraria

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Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)
Mathieu
Why would I point this out if we're both evil?

He may be evil, I'm pretty bad at reading him.
Dave ??arski-Riley

gelrod wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

thumbsup

I have given my reasons for voting Mir; I think Demo and LJ pressure would be a good thing.


And enquiry?


No excuses bruv.
Dave ??arski-Riley

Borgoto wrote:

gelrod wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

I think I would vote for Mir (obviously), LJ or Demo at this point. Nothing too serious about any of them, but those are votes that I either have reasoning for or would be good lines of enquiry to see what happened.

I won't vote Robb or Borgoto barring craziness.


This makes me want to vote smug. First, he says he doesn't have anything serious but then says they're the ones he has reason to vote. To top it off he doesn't even give those reasons that don't exist. Second, he misspelled "inquiry". Next he's going to try to convince us "color" has a "u", "eon" has an "a" and "idolize" is spelled with an "s" and not a "z".

Get with the program smug.

[vote smug]

Also makes me more iffy on Robb and Borgoto.


Last game Smug called me good early and ended up being evil. I don't know if he'd do that 2 games in a row.


Last game you were obviously Good to me, so I put it out there. This time I'm more tentative.

In terms of doing things multiple times, I deffo would if it was part of my gimmick; I have a routine I cannot break. Push a mislynch on Ortho that no-one buys into, NK Jared, call Anne out as clearly Good in the hope that that will reflect well on me when she inevitably is mislynched.

My usual routine as both alignments is: go crazy at Dake, accusing him of being Evil; say stuff that ensures I am a lynch candidate D1, claim Villager regardless of my real role.

Everything else is just marzipan on top of the above.
Dave ??arski-Riley
I also spend a lot of time just laughing to myself and lurking harmlessly.
Aaron
After a reread:

Getting positive vibes from Borgoto (he feels like a Resistance game I played with him when he was good)
Gelrod's been all over the map, and I'm not sure if he's joking or not.
Robb too.
Smug is probably my worst read right now - Miraria feels like a default choice.

[vote Smug]
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Miraria - 3 - ljtrigirl (24), AnneAa (26), Smugvid (28)
ljtrigirl - 2 - DeMorcerf (27), Borgoto (29)
Smugvid - 2 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10) , gelrod (31), absnook (32)
JaredW25 - 1 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14), Smugvid (15)
gelrod - 1 - absnook (2) , JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13) , PeteVasi (20), Smugvid (25)
PeteVasi - 1 - ljtrigirl (8) , absnook (19) , JaredW25 (21) , gelrod (22) , JaredW25* (23)
Borgoto - 0 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11) , JaredW25 (12)
AnneAa - 0 - Borgoto (9) , absnook (18)
Robb - 0 - AnneAa (16) , JaredW25 (17) , gelrod (30)
Not voting: Miraria

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Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)
Dave ??arski-Riley

absnook wrote:

After a reread:

Getting positive vibes from Borgoto (he feels like a Resistance game I played with him when he was good)
Gelrod's been all over the map, and I'm not sure if he's joking or not.
Robb too.
Smug is probably my worst read right now - Miraria feels like a default choice.

[vote Smug]


I'm the only one voting for her with a reason that is more solid than "this person isn't here".
Triumphant

Smugvid wrote:

absnook wrote:

After a reread:

Getting positive vibes from Borgoto (he feels like a Resistance game I played with him when he was good)
Gelrod's been all over the map, and I'm not sure if he's joking or not.
Robb too.
Smug is probably my worst read right now - Miraria feels like a default choice.

[vote Smug]


I'm the only one voting for her with a reason that is more solid than "this person isn't here".


Thats true. I would say you're the only one thats not voting me for a default like reason.

vote absnook

ps-is that how i vote in this system?
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Miraria - 3 - ljtrigirl (24), AnneAa (26), Smugvid (28)
ljtrigirl - 2 - DeMorcerf (27), Borgoto (29)
Smugvid - 2 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10) , gelrod (31), absnook (32)
JaredW25 - 1 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14), Smugvid (15)
gelrod - 1 - absnook (2) , JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13) , PeteVasi (20), Smugvid (25)
PeteVasi - 1 - ljtrigirl (8) , absnook (19) , JaredW25 (21) , gelrod (22) , JaredW25* (23)
absnook - 1 - Miraria (33)
Borgoto - 0 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11) , JaredW25 (12)
AnneAa - 0 - Borgoto (9) , absnook (18)
Robb - 0 - AnneAa (16) , JaredW25 (17) , gelrod (30)
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Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)
Aaron

Smugvid wrote:

absnook wrote:

After a reread:

Getting positive vibes from Borgoto (he feels like a Resistance game I played with him when he was good)
Gelrod's been all over the map, and I'm not sure if he's joking or not.
Robb too.
Smug is probably my worst read right now - Miraria feels like a default choice.

[vote Smug]


I'm the only one voting for her with a reason that is more solid than "this person isn't here".


*Wake up*

Agreed. I just didn't like the reason - miraria's entrance felt good to me.
Triumphant

absnook wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

absnook wrote:

After a reread:

Getting positive vibes from Borgoto (he feels like a Resistance game I played with him when he was good)
Gelrod's been all over the map, and I'm not sure if he's joking or not.
Robb too.
Smug is probably my worst read right now - Miraria feels like a default choice.

[vote Smug]


I'm the only one voting for her with a reason that is more solid than "this person isn't here".


*Wake up*

Agreed. I just didn't like the reason - miraria's entrance felt good to me.


huh. I kind of didn't either. it was very waffly. but at the same time, at least it was a reason.

everyone else was summining me or something. and they are still on me.
Aaron

miraria wrote:

absnook wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

absnook wrote:

After a reread:

Getting positive vibes from Borgoto (he feels like a Resistance game I played with him when he was good)
Gelrod's been all over the map, and I'm not sure if he's joking or not.
Robb too.
Smug is probably my worst read right now - Miraria feels like a default choice.

[vote Smug]


I'm the only one voting for her with a reason that is more solid than "this person isn't here".


*Wake up*

Agreed. I just didn't like the reason - miraria's entrance felt good to me.


huh. I kind of didn't either. it was very waffly. but at the same time, at least it was a reason.

everyone else was summining me or something. and they are still on me.


This game's been in a somewhat extended summoning phase - without the time limit it seems necessary.
Triumphant

absnook wrote:

miraria wrote:

absnook wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

absnook wrote:

After a reread:

Getting positive vibes from Borgoto (he feels like a Resistance game I played with him when he was good)
Gelrod's been all over the map, and I'm not sure if he's joking or not.
Robb too.
Smug is probably my worst read right now - Miraria feels like a default choice.

[vote Smug]


I'm the only one voting for her with a reason that is more solid than "this person isn't here".


*Wake up*

Agreed. I just didn't like the reason - miraria's entrance felt good to me.


huh. I kind of didn't either. it was very waffly. but at the same time, at least it was a reason.

everyone else was summining me or something. and they are still on me.


This game's been in a somewhat extended summoning phase - without the time limit it seems necessary.


eh, votes on me will not work to summon me. If I'm not here I'm not reading the thread.

Also I think it's worth a reminder I will not be playing tomorrow through Sunday. I will be at Castlecon playing boardgames and hugging friends.
Dave ??arski-Riley
I think the issues you highlight are more issues with fun and enjoyment rather than difficulty. Given the discussion about how the set seems to favour Good, I think the process just grinds Evil down.

With regards to my Mir vote, it's a vote based on my own experience, it wasn't about Mir sounding off or bad, quite the opposite actually. The fact that Abs was framing the vote in a way I believe to be false doesn't seem cool to me.

Absnook is added to my earlier list as a vote I could make.
Robb Effinger
Sure, I'll vote Absnook. He's a vote I could make too!
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Miraria - 3 - ljtrigirl (24), AnneAa (26), Smugvid (28)
ljtrigirl - 2 - DeMorcerf (27), Borgoto (29)
Smugvid - 2 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10) , gelrod (31), absnook (32)
absnook - 2 - Miraria (33), Robb (34)
gelrod - 1 - absnook (2) , JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13) , PeteVasi (20), Smugvid (25)
PeteVasi - 1 - ljtrigirl (8) , absnook (19) , JaredW25 (21) , gelrod (22) , JaredW25* (23)
Borgoto - 0 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11) , JaredW25 (12)
AnneAa - 0 - Borgoto (9) , absnook (18)
JaredW25 - 0 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14) , Smugvid (15)
Robb - 0 - AnneAa (16) , JaredW25 (17) , gelrod (30)
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Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)
Mathieu
OK! I say we need to get things moving today.

Some people just dont seem to be following the game at all!

I dont see what's wrong with Absnook. Right now I could see myself being ok with a lynch on LJ or Miraria among the top candidates.

Is everyone reading LJ as good? I usually expect her to be more present, even in day 1's. Not even posted in 4 days.

Robb Effinger

Borgoto wrote:

OK! I say we need to get things moving today.

Some people just dont seem to be following the game at all!

I dont see what's wrong with Absnook. Right now I could see myself being ok with a lynch on LJ or Miraria among the top candidates.

Is everyone reading LJ as good? I usually expect her to be more present, even in day 1's. Not even posted in 4 days.



Oh, right, thanks for the reminder! Ya, no, I was thinking about moving my vote to lj instead.
Work has been busy this week, I don't think I even checked the thread yesterday. I had forgotten that I was in the game when it started, but it's Majority Rules, so presumably there's enough patience that I can get to the game in the time that I have. Today, I've got some lunch and time for those read-throughs.
Lacking a Dake presence, someone should make one of those "I'll vote these people" charts.
Borgoto read:

Borgoto wrote:

gelrod wrote:

Borgoto wrote:

Let's put this behind us now

To all who played this before, do you feel it favors good or evil?


Damn. I hope the votes move off of you.

I think majority rules heavily favors good. Wears evil down after a while.


That is 33% in your power. Start a new trend!

I don't think I understand this reply. Is this attempted evil signaling?


Borgoto wrote:

DeMorcerf wrote:

Borgoto wrote:

DeMorcerf wrote:

Kiwi13cubed wrote:

claim seer but only after Dake claims it

[claim beholder]
[vote kiwi]



Yeah I don't think the nicknames need to be in tallies. I do think a link to the handy dandy app that lets you read a single player's posts is great!

So i'm in LL but I don't know what do to about it yet! any tips?

My tip: don't say things like ^ that sound like you are worried about being in LL a few hours into the game, but it's too late for that.
*bu dump chichz* [waits for laughter]
[makes a performance check] DeMorcerf previously rolled 1d20 = 12 +1 CHA


I always worry when i'm in LL. I dont think only evil fear the lynch!

I can't tell if genuine or covering. There's more later that has the feel like "worrying". I could vote Borgoto.
Mathieu


First part: There were 3 votes on me. 1 was his. I meant he could move his vote and remove 33% of what was on me.
absnook:

absnook wrote:

Don't make any reads of me based on when I'm active or not.

Feels weird. Pre-setup for utr-ness?

The rest of the posts are reasonable, though the votes seem kind of reaching. Like this exchange:

absnook wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

absnook wrote:

After a reread:

Getting positive vibes from Borgoto (he feels like a Resistance game I played with him when he was good)
Gelrod's been all over the map, and I'm not sure if he's joking or not.
Robb too.
Smug is probably my worst read right now - Miraria feels like a default choice.

[vote Smug]


I'm the only one voting for her with a reason that is more solid than "this person isn't here".


*Wake up*

Agreed. I just didn't like the reason - miraria's entrance felt good to me.


Feels like backtracking. I could vote absnook.

Borgoto wrote:



First part: There were 3 votes on me. 1 was his. I meant he could move his vote and remove 33% of what was on me.

Ahhhh. Makes more sense.
Dave ??arski-Riley

PeteVasi wrote:

Lacking a Dake presence, someone should make one of those "I'll vote these people" charts.


I couldn't view that outside of Evil Dake as mod. Was that useful for you guys last time out?
Did a quick re-read on lj too. She does a lot of talking about the game, but not a lot of digging into the game. Meta-talk, and no real vote in there. Like, you want to appear to have content but not actually generate said content.

[vote ljtrigirl]
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Vote Tally:
Miraria - 3 - ljtrigirl (24), AnneAa (26), Smugvid (28)
ljtrigirl - 3 - DeMorcerf (27), Borgoto (29), PeteVasi (35)
Smugvid - 2 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10) , gelrod (31), absnook (32)
absnook - 2 - Miraria (33), Robb (34)
PeteVasi - 1 - ljtrigirl (8) , absnook (19) , JaredW25 (21) , gelrod (22) , JaredW25* (23)
Borgoto - 0 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11) , JaredW25 (12)
AnneAa - 0 - Borgoto (9) , absnook (18)
JaredW25 - 0 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14) , Smugvid (15)
gelrod - 0 - absnook (2) , JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13) , PeteVasi (20) , Smugvid (25)
Robb - 0 - AnneAa (16) , JaredW25 (17) , gelrod (30)
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Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)

Smugvid wrote:

PeteVasi wrote:

Lacking a Dake presence, someone should make one of those "I'll vote these people" charts.


I couldn't view that outside of Evil Dake as mod. Was that useful for you guys last time out?

It had some use in that we could focus D1 onto fewer people where there was more lynch interest. Basically, just to get things coalescing instead of the scattered votes we have currently. I think some thought it was helpful to wolves too, but I don't recall the arguments for that.
Dave ??arski-Riley

PeteVasi wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

PeteVasi wrote:

Lacking a Dake presence, someone should make one of those "I'll vote these people" charts.


I couldn't view that outside of Evil Dake as mod. Was that useful for you guys last time out?

It had some use in that we could focus D1 onto fewer people where there was more lynch interest. Basically, just to get things coalescing instead of the scattered votes we have currently. I think some thought it was helpful to wolves too, but I don't recall the arguments for that.


Dake and Anne considered people as Seer suspects based off it.
Dave ??arski-Riley
I'll vote Absnook because that puts him tied with LJ, but she's LL on LHLV, which I support too.
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Vote Tally:
ljtrigirl - 3 - DeMorcerf (27), Borgoto (29), PeteVasi (35)
absnook - 3 - Miraria (33), Robb (34), Smugvid (36)
Miraria - 2 - ljtrigirl (24), AnneAa (26), Smugvid (28)
Smugvid - 2 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10) , gelrod (31), absnook (32)
PeteVasi - 1 - ljtrigirl (8) , absnook (19) , JaredW25 (21) , gelrod (22) , JaredW25* (23)
Borgoto - 0 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11) , JaredW25 (12)
AnneAa - 0 - Borgoto (9) , absnook (18)
JaredW25 - 0 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14) , Smugvid (15)
gelrod - 0 - absnook (2) , JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13) , PeteVasi (20) , Smugvid (25)
Robb - 0 - AnneAa (16) , JaredW25 (17) , gelrod (30)
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Smugvid - (no claim)
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PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)
Dave ??arski-Riley

JaredW25 wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

I'll vote Absnook because that puts him tied with LJ, but she's LL on LHLV, which I support too.

Why does LHLV matter in majority rules?

I would totally vote you now if I could.


It doesn't but it keeps LJ at the top of the tally.
Dave ??arski-Riley
And if you're going to vote me for forgetting how the game works, then you should just always vote me. I have to read my own previous posts to remember what my reads are in every game. My memory is terrible.
L Squared
I totally forgot this game existed.
L Squared
Why the fuck are people voting me?
L Squared

DeMorcerf wrote:

absnook wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

absnook wrote:

*Wake up*

It's time to switch to summoning-vote phase! [vote AnneAa]


Hmm. She's said stuff and was the first one to make a real vote, if I remember right. Why are you summoning her?


I can't seem to find that post - am I missing something?

...Oh, hiding in plain sight - the Robb vote, just a few posts back. [vote PeteVasi]

Summoning-votes are lazy, man. And I don't believe they work, esp without cassy. If someone isn't checking in to post, then they aren't checking in to see they have votes either, right?


I don't think you understand the point.

Summoning votes serve two purposes:

1) Some people follow along without posting and will be more likely to post to defend themselves.
2) Some people have alignment indicative reactions when they show up with votes on them.

No one actually votes someone to make them magically appear. It's to apply pressure to their behavior when they are here.
L Squared

DeMorcerf wrote:

gelrod wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

I'm probably not moving from Mir until she shows up, and rushing to majority without everyone participating is dumb.


I could vote Mir.

Choosing not to pressure people who are playing and summoning vote instead? We can pressure/put near-majority people even without everyone here yet. Why would we wait? -- And isn't it typical for miraria to take a while to show up and not play on weekends, that feels standard.

[vote ljtrigirl]


Is that seriously a real vote?
L Squared

Smugvid wrote:

AnneAa wrote:

Then who is evil?


I don't know yet. I just know I'm not. I have Borgoto as "probably not" and that's about it.


Why is Borgoto at probably not?
L Squared
I'm not lynching gelrod for wanting someone to get lynched quickly. That's dumb.
L Squared

Borgoto wrote:

I just reread Pete and Mir, I don't want to vote for Pete. He's is making interesting points and sounds pretty good to me.

Mir I have a neutral read on.

Annne looks pretty good compared to previous games with her.

Anyone can tell me about absnook's usual playstyle? Absnook maybe?

I feel LJ could be evil. Others I dont know enough about to judge. Would not be ready to put 6th vote on anyone.

vote LJ Come out and make some LJ style judgements please


Why do you think I could be evil?
L Squared

Smugvid wrote:

thumbsup

I have given my reasons for voting Mir; I think Demo and LJ pressure would be a good thing.


Why?
Mathieu

ljtrigirl wrote:

Why the fuck are people voting me?


Because you werent posting! I'm open to being convinced to do something else.
L Squared
I feel like page 14 was a bunch of people saying, "Ok. LJ might be evil?" without giving any reasons. Super opportunistic. Smug's was the worst though.

[vote smugvid]
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Vote Tally:
ljtrigirl - 3 - DeMorcerf (27), Borgoto (29), PeteVasi (35)
absnook - 3 - Miraria (33), Robb (34), Smugvid (36)
Smugvid - 3 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10) , gelrod (31), absnook (32), ljtrigirl (37)
PeteVasi - 1 - ljtrigirl (8) , absnook (19) , JaredW25 (21) , gelrod (22) , JaredW25* (23)
Miraria - 1 - ljtrigirl (24) , AnneAa (26), Smugvid (28)
Borgoto - 0 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11) , JaredW25 (12)
AnneAa - 0 - Borgoto (9) , absnook (18)
JaredW25 - 0 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14) , Smugvid (15)
gelrod - 0 - absnook (2) , JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13) , PeteVasi (20) , Smugvid (25)
Robb - 0 - AnneAa (16) , JaredW25 (17) , gelrod (30)
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Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)
L Squared

Smugvid wrote:

absnook wrote:

After a reread:

Getting positive vibes from Borgoto (he feels like a Resistance game I played with him when he was good)
Gelrod's been all over the map, and I'm not sure if he's joking or not.
Robb too.
Smug is probably my worst read right now - Miraria feels like a default choice.

[vote Smug]


I'm the only one voting for her with a reason that is more solid than "this person isn't here".


No. I was voting her because last time I voted her before she showed up, she "tsk tsk"ed me when she got here.

Mir- Why didn't you comment on my vote on you at all?
L Squared

JaredW25 wrote:

I think my biggest gripe about maj is the lack of forced interaction. Nobody seems to be here at the same time.


That and there's no sense of "fuck it, we have to do something". Last game, I lynched a good read just because I wanted the day to be over. Lol.
L Squared

Robb wrote:

Borgoto wrote:

OK! I say we need to get things moving today.

Some people just dont seem to be following the game at all!

I dont see what's wrong with Absnook. Right now I could see myself being ok with a lynch on LJ or Miraria among the top candidates.

Is everyone reading LJ as good? I usually expect her to be more present, even in day 1's. Not even posted in 4 days.



Oh, right, thanks for the reminder! Ya, no, I was thinking about moving my vote to lj instead.


Question to both Rob and Borgoto:

Do you think I'd ever be intentionally absent as evil? Why would me not being here link to my alignment at all?
L Squared

PeteVasi wrote:

Did a quick re-read on lj too. She does a lot of talking about the game, but not a lot of digging into the game. Meta-talk, and no real vote in there. Like, you want to appear to have content but not actually generate said content.

[vote ljtrigirl]


Show me the content you gave at the point I was participating in the game.
L Squared
These votes/shade throwing on me are super lazy.
L Squared

JaredW25 wrote:

I think people hopping on LJ are opportunistic.

I don't think evil!LJ does UTR intentionally as a means to get by.


I literally forgot this game was even happening.
L Squared

gelrod wrote:

Also Jared, call LJ "utr" sometime and see what happens.


angry
L Squared
My top suspects right now are Pete, Miraria, and Smug.

Pete's vote on me stunk, and the way that Smug encouraged votes on me without voting or giving reasons was sketchtastic.

I think Miraria's participation has been a lot of commentary on the pleasantness and excuses for not being here. Her lack of response to my vote on her made me feel like she was trying to minimalize it.

I don't think I'd lynch Jared, Borgoto, or absnook today. Maybe DeMO either.
L Squared
Someone come talk to me.

Jared- Why do you feel good about Anne?
Mathieu
Hi. Why Pete?
L Squared

Borgoto wrote:

Hi. Why Pete?


What do you mean?
L Squared
Oh. Why did his vote stink?

He was voting me for only being fluffy when I was really only around for D0.05. That shows he wasn't trying to contextualize my posts to figure out my alignment, just get off a mislynch.
L Squared
Actually, I want to lynch Pete more than Smug, I think.

[vote pete]
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
ljtrigirl - 3 - DeMorcerf (27), Borgoto (29), PeteVasi (35)
absnook - 3 - Miraria (33), Robb (34), Smugvid (36)
Smugvid - 2 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10) , gelrod (31), absnook (32), ljtrigirl (37)
PeteVasi - 2 - ljtrigirl (8) , absnook (19) , JaredW25 (21) , gelrod (22) , JaredW25* (23), ljtrigirl (38)
Miraria - 1 - ljtrigirl (24) , AnneAa (26), Smugvid (28)
Borgoto - 0 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11) , JaredW25 (12)
AnneAa - 0 - Borgoto (9) , absnook (18)
JaredW25 - 0 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14) , Smugvid (15)
gelrod - 0 - absnook (2) , JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13) , PeteVasi (20) , Smugvid (25)
Robb - 0 - AnneAa (16) , JaredW25 (17) , gelrod (30)
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Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)
L Squared
Is it fixed so that nightfall votes can change from day to day?
L Squared
This tally makes me feel good about absnook.
Dave ??arski-Riley

gelrod wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

And if you're going to vote me for forgetting how the game works, then you should just always vote me. I have to read my own previous posts to remember what my reads are in every game. My memory is terrible.


It's not about forgetting the rules. It's that you forgetting the rules highlights something that either appears to be distancing or manufacturing a reason to vote lj.


I've said before I would support pressure On LJ because I think it might give interesting results, but I was voting where people were consolidating as possible lynch candidates.
L Squared

AnneAa wrote:

Cool. Smug and Pete are my suspects as well, I think Pete is more wolfy and smug more auxy.


Got to this post and stopped.

Anne can join my town circle too.
L Squared

Smugvid wrote:

gelrod wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

And if you're going to vote me for forgetting how the game works, then you should just always vote me. I have to read my own previous posts to remember what my reads are in every game. My memory is terrible.


It's not about forgetting the rules. It's that you forgetting the rules highlights something that either appears to be distancing or manufacturing a reason to vote lj.


I've said before I would support pressure On LJ because I think it might give interesting results, but I was voting where people were consolidating as possible lynch candidates.


What results were you thinking it could give?
L Squared
Borgoto- How do you feel about me now that I'm here posting?
Dave ??arski-Riley

ljtrigirl wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

AnneAa wrote:

Then who is evil?


I don't know yet. I just know I'm not. I have Borgoto as "probably not" and that's about it.


Why is Borgoto at probably not?


Because I think his concern over the votes on him at the very start of the game was very similar to how he played the last game in which I saw him and he was Good.
Dave ??arski-Riley

ljtrigirl wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

thumbsup

I have given my reasons for voting Mir; I think Demo and LJ pressure would be a good thing.


Why?


To see what happens and take something more from that than the nothing I had.
Dave ??arski-Riley

ljtrigirl wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

absnook wrote:

After a reread:

Getting positive vibes from Borgoto (he feels like a Resistance game I played with him when he was good)
Gelrod's been all over the map, and I'm not sure if he's joking or not.
Robb too.
Smug is probably my worst read right now - Miraria feels like a default choice.

[vote Smug]


I'm the only one voting for her with a reason that is more solid than "this person isn't here".


No. I was voting her because last time I voted her before she showed up, she "tsk tsk"ed me when she got here.

Mir- Why didn't you comment on my vote on you at all?


But you didn't give that reason openly. How am I meant to infer that at the time?
L Squared

Smugvid wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

absnook wrote:

After a reread:

Getting positive vibes from Borgoto (he feels like a Resistance game I played with him when he was good)
Gelrod's been all over the map, and I'm not sure if he's joking or not.
Robb too.
Smug is probably my worst read right now - Miraria feels like a default choice.

[vote Smug]


I'm the only one voting for her with a reason that is more solid than "this person isn't here".


No. I was voting her because last time I voted her before she showed up, she "tsk tsk"ed me when she got here.

Mir- Why didn't you comment on my vote on you at all?


But you didn't give that reason openly. How am I meant to infer that at the time?


Why would I ever say "This vote is to see if Miraria reacts evilly to it."?
Dave ??arski-Riley
Annoyed commentary. I'll be back when I'm not annoyed. Which will hopefully be shortly.
Mathieu

ljtrigirl wrote:

Borgoto- How do you feel about me now that I'm here posting?


I'm unconvinced. shifted to neutral. I really think Pete is good though.
L Squared

Borgoto wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Borgoto- How do you feel about me now that I'm here posting?


I'm unconvinced. shifted to neutral. I really think Pete is good though.


Why?
Dave ??arski-Riley

ljtrigirl wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

absnook wrote:

After a reread:

Getting positive vibes from Borgoto (he feels like a Resistance game I played with him when he was good)
Gelrod's been all over the map, and I'm not sure if he's joking or not.
Robb too.
Smug is probably my worst read right now - Miraria feels like a default choice.

[vote Smug]


I'm the only one voting for her with a reason that is more solid than "this person isn't here".


No. I was voting her because last time I voted her before she showed up, she "tsk tsk"ed me when she got here.

Mir- Why didn't you comment on my vote on you at all?


But you didn't give that reason openly. How am I meant to infer that at the time?


Why would I ever say "This vote is to see if Miraria reacts evilly to it."?


How am I supposed to infer your reason though? I'm not you, so I cannot possibly know your reason. This is insane questioning, like fucking Kafkaesque.
Mathieu
I would be ready to lynch Demo, LJ, Smug or Mir I think at this point.
L Squared
Smug- I'm not saying you're supposed to. You're saying you're supposed to.
Mathieu

ljtrigirl wrote:

Borgoto wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Borgoto- How do you feel about me now that I'm here posting?


I'm unconvinced. shifted to neutral. I really think Pete is good though.


Why?


You know i'm a feeling player. I liked his posts. Nothing made me feel he was evil.
L Squared

Borgoto wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Borgoto wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Borgoto- How do you feel about me now that I'm here posting?


I'm unconvinced. shifted to neutral. I really think Pete is good though.


Why?


You know i'm a feeling player. I liked his posts. Nothing made me feel he was evil.


Eh. Usually you at least try to explain it though. His vote on me was terrible.
Mathieu

ljtrigirl wrote:

Borgoto wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Borgoto wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Borgoto- How do you feel about me now that I'm here posting?


I'm unconvinced. shifted to neutral. I really think Pete is good though.


Why?


You know i'm a feeling player. I liked his posts. Nothing made me feel he was evil.


Eh. Usually you at least try to explain it though. His vote on me was terrible.


I dont think it was terrible.
Dave ??arski-Riley

ljtrigirl wrote:

Smug- I'm not saying you're supposed to. You're saying you're supposed to.


Yeah. Okay.
L Squared

Borgoto wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Borgoto wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Borgoto wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Borgoto- How do you feel about me now that I'm here posting?


I'm unconvinced. shifted to neutral. I really think Pete is good though.


Why?


You know i'm a feeling player. I liked his posts. Nothing made me feel he was evil.


Eh. Usually you at least try to explain it though. His vote on me was terrible.


I dont think it was terrible.


I disagree. If he was trying to figure out my alignment, he would have thought about when I was posting, not just ISOed me, said, "yeah, that's mostly meta. I can get her lynched with that."
Mathieu
Why are you applying that to Pete and not to me?
Dave ??arski-Riley

gelrod wrote:

Smug, voting Pete would make me feel better about you. I have you two connected right now.


But that could literally only be Wolf/Wolf, which you could dispel by lynching me, which seemingly everyone wants to do. Unless you think I'm a Mimic who viewed Wolf Pete. Pete seems okay to me. He's not a will not vote, but he's doing better than Absnook and Mir.
L Squared

Borgoto wrote:

Why are you applying that to Pete and not to me?


You voted me for different reasons.

You also gave off your good tell.
Mathieu

ljtrigirl wrote:

Borgoto wrote:

Why are you applying that to Pete and not to me?


You voted me for different reasons.

You also gave off your good tell.


WINK.
L Squared

Borgoto wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Borgoto wrote:

Why are you applying that to Pete and not to me?


You voted me for different reasons.

You also gave off your good tell.


WINK.


Ok, now you're weirding me out.
Mathieu
I thought my good tell was winking.
Dave ??arski-Riley

gelrod wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

absnook wrote:

After a reread:

Getting positive vibes from Borgoto (he feels like a Resistance game I played with him when he was good)
Gelrod's been all over the map, and I'm not sure if he's joking or not.
Robb too.
Smug is probably my worst read right now - Miraria feels like a default choice.

[vote Smug]


I'm the only one voting for her with a reason that is more solid than "this person isn't here".


No. I was voting her because last time I voted her before she showed up, she "tsk tsk"ed me when she got here.

Mir- Why didn't you comment on my vote on you at all?


But you didn't give that reason openly. How am I meant to infer that at the time?


Why would I ever say "This vote is to see if Miraria reacts evilly to it."?


Its that famous British cordiality. He'll set a trap but respectfully tell you where it is, as to do otherwise would be impolite.


I've never tried to trap anyone at all. I sometimes feel like we are playing different games. Remember, I am level 1 permanently. I might figure out what you're doing, but I just have my bit and I carry on with it. That stuff I posted earlier about what I do, that is literally it. No wonder I get voted all the time, maybe you guys think I'm trying to pull off some sick stunt when I'm just cycling my bike down a dust track.
Dave ??arski-Riley

Borgoto wrote:

I thought my good tell was winking.


I am definitely not voting this guy today.
Dave ??arski-Riley

gelrod wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

gelrod wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

absnook wrote:

After a reread:

Getting positive vibes from Borgoto (he feels like a Resistance game I played with him when he was good)
Gelrod's been all over the map, and I'm not sure if he's joking or not.
Robb too.
Smug is probably my worst read right now - Miraria feels like a default choice.

[vote Smug]


I'm the only one voting for her with a reason that is more solid than "this person isn't here".


No. I was voting her because last time I voted her before she showed up, she "tsk tsk"ed me when she got here.

Mir- Why didn't you comment on my vote on you at all?


But you didn't give that reason openly. How am I meant to infer that at the time?


Why would I ever say "This vote is to see if Miraria reacts evilly to it."?


Its that famous British cordiality. He'll set a trap but respectfully tell you where it is, as to do otherwise would be impolite.


I've never tried to trap anyone at all. I sometimes feel like we are playing different games. Remember, I am level 1 permanently. I might figure out what you're doing, but I just have my bit and I carry on with it. That stuff I posted earlier about what I do, that is literally it. No wonder I get voted all the time, maybe you guys think I'm trying to pull off some sick stunt when I'm just cycling my bike down a dust track.


Oh smug, just let me enjoy a little Anglo humor, won't you?


Your bit was good, I enjoyed it. My response was semi-comical semi-exasperation. More aimed at me than anything else.
Aaron

PeteVasi wrote:



absnook wrote:

Don't make any reads of me based on when I'm active or not.

Feels weird. Pre-setup for utr-ness?


*Wake-up*

This was intentionally said prior to the game's start - as a way for me to be disciplined at work.
Aaron
I don't want to lynch LJ today.
Dave ??arski-Riley

gelrod wrote:

absnook wrote:

PeteVasi wrote:



absnook wrote:

Don't make any reads of me based on when I'm active or not.

Feels weird. Pre-setup for utr-ness?


*Wake-up*

This was intentionally said prior to the game's start - as a way for me to be disciplined at work.


Wow. I didn't realize this was prior to game start. Can we all vote Pete now? I do this all the time for the exact same reasons...using pregame meta in a way that implies a statement while knowledgeable of your role is evil evil evil.


Given that I've already hitched my wagon to Pete's, could that not just be accidental on re-reading the thread?
L Squared

JaredW25 wrote:

Somebody help me push Pete to claim!


I'm trying!
L Squared

gelrod wrote:

absnook wrote:

PeteVasi wrote:



absnook wrote:

Don't make any reads of me based on when I'm active or not.

Feels weird. Pre-setup for utr-ness?


*Wake-up*

This was intentionally said prior to the game's start - as a way for me to be disciplined at work.


Wow. I didn't realize this was prior to game start. Can we all vote Pete now? I do this all the time for the exact same reasons...using pregame meta in a way that implies a statement while knowledgeable of your role is evil evil evil.


EXACTLY

He's not trying to evaluate people. He's trying to mislynch them.
Aaron
Judging by Pete's comments on me and LJ, it appears that he did his read from the modkiwi app (as in, without the context of what was happening around - he was pinged by a comment I said before the game and LJ's posting during the meta phase).

Probably not the best way to read this thread.
L Squared

gelrod wrote:

Kiwi13cubed wrote:

absnook wrote:

Judging by Pete's comments on me and LJ, it appears that he did his read from the modkiwi app (as in, without the context of what was happening around - he was pinged by a comment I said before the game and LJ's posting during the meta phase).

Probably not the best way to read this thread.

Be real great if there were a way to include other users' posts in that iso read, like the mod's, so you could see where posts fell in relation to game events... whistle


Is there a simple solution to only pull posts made after the first "dawn"?


Don't do that. Then I can't ISO read other threads on BGG.
L Squared

gelrod wrote:

Kiwi, while we're making unreasonable requests can you set up the ISOs as individual RSS feeds?


It's not an unreasonable request. It's how it works now. I can ISO any BGG thread.
Dave ??arski-Riley
Right, I'm pretty sure Pete drew heat on D1 on the first one of these that I saw and he was Evil. He drew heat in the one I modded on D1 and he was Good. Pete is the kind of guy who clearly just draws D1 heat, like me. Now, you might lynch him/me and find an Evil, but I honestly feel your just as likely to not, I know that my mix of flips is pretty even. So there's going to be no challenge in lynching Pete tomorrow if he still sounds rough, but why not give him something to play with rather than lynching someone you always want to lynch on D1? Let's lynch someone else. And if that's me, then cool, let's do that, just remember to spread the shit D1 lynches around. That said, Pete wasn't D1 lynched in the other games, just was a candidate. Meh. I just don't think there's any point in lynching Pete.
Robb Effinger
92 replies!? What happened. This is both amazing, and it means I'm not catching up immediately
L Squared

Robb wrote:

92 replies!? What happened. This is both amazing, and it means I'm not catching up immediately


whistle
Dave ??arski-Riley

JaredW25 wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Right, I'm pretty sure Pete drew heat on D1 on the first one of these that I saw and he was Evil. He drew heat in the one I modded on D1 and he was Good. Pete is the kind of guy who clearly just draws D1 heat, like me. Now, you might lynch him/me and find an Evil, but I honestly feel your just as likely to not, I know that my mix of flips is pretty even. So there's going to be no challenge in lynching Pete tomorrow if he still sounds rough, but why not give him something to play with rather than lynching someone you always want to lynch on D1? Let's lynch someone else. And if that's me, then cool, let's do that, just remember to spread the shit D1 lynches around. That said, Pete wasn't D1 lynched in the other games, just was a candidate. Meh. I just don't think there's any point in lynching Pete.

thumbsdown

Lynch me then. I never get d1 lynched so if we are excusing people for "typical behavior" then I don't know how to play.

I want to lynch Pete because he's acting like he's cruising for mislynches. His reasoning is bad, and he doesn't even seem apologetic for pushing bad reasons. That's different than the Pete of last game, and it frustrates me that you're saying he just draws heat unfairly.


I think I am in danger of talking about The Game rather than this game. I shall stop.

However, this attack on Pete is leading me to make a clear judgement that if any of you three (Gel, LJ, Jared) are Evil, it is without knowledge of Evil Pete. But if Pete flips Good, I think that one or more of you is definitely Evil, so there is value to me in this exchange and now there is value in Pete's lynch, if only for information.
Pok??mon Ranger Anne
vote Pete

Claim, claim, claim!
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
ljtrigirl - 3 - DeMorcerf (27), Borgoto (29), PeteVasi (35)
absnook - 3 - Miraria (33), Robb (34), Smugvid (36)
PeteVasi - 3 - ljtrigirl (8) , absnook (19) , JaredW25 (21) , gelrod (22) , JaredW25* (23), ljtrigirl (38), AnneAa (39)
Smugvid - 2 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10) , gelrod (31), absnook (32), ljtrigirl (37)
Borgoto - 0 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11) , JaredW25 (12)
AnneAa - 0 - Borgoto (9) , absnook (18)
JaredW25 - 0 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14) , Smugvid (15)
gelrod - 0 - absnook (2) , JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13) , PeteVasi (20) , Smugvid (25)
Miraria - 0 - ljtrigirl (24) , AnneAa (26) , Smugvid (28)
Robb - 0 - AnneAa (16) , JaredW25 (17) , gelrod (30)
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Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)
L Squared

Smugvid wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Right, I'm pretty sure Pete drew heat on D1 on the first one of these that I saw and he was Evil. He drew heat in the one I modded on D1 and he was Good. Pete is the kind of guy who clearly just draws D1 heat, like me. Now, you might lynch him/me and find an Evil, but I honestly feel your just as likely to not, I know that my mix of flips is pretty even. So there's going to be no challenge in lynching Pete tomorrow if he still sounds rough, but why not give him something to play with rather than lynching someone you always want to lynch on D1? Let's lynch someone else. And if that's me, then cool, let's do that, just remember to spread the shit D1 lynches around. That said, Pete wasn't D1 lynched in the other games, just was a candidate. Meh. I just don't think there's any point in lynching Pete.

thumbsdown

Lynch me then. I never get d1 lynched so if we are excusing people for "typical behavior" then I don't know how to play.

I want to lynch Pete because he's acting like he's cruising for mislynches. His reasoning is bad, and he doesn't even seem apologetic for pushing bad reasons. That's different than the Pete of last game, and it frustrates me that you're saying he just draws heat unfairly.


I think I am in danger of talking about The Game rather than this game. I shall stop.

However, this attack on Pete is leading me to make a clear judgement that if any of you three (Gel, LJ, Jared) are Evil, it is without knowledge of Evil Pete. But if Pete flips Good, I think that one or more of you is definitely Evil, so there is value to me in this exchange and now there is value in Pete's lynch, if only for information.


Lynch Pete with us, and either:

1) We'll get a wolf.
2) You'll have more info going into tomorrow.
Dave ??arski-Riley

JaredW25 wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Right, I'm pretty sure Pete drew heat on D1 on the first one of these that I saw and he was Evil. He drew heat in the one I modded on D1 and he was Good. Pete is the kind of guy who clearly just draws D1 heat, like me. Now, you might lynch him/me and find an Evil, but I honestly feel your just as likely to not, I know that my mix of flips is pretty even. So there's going to be no challenge in lynching Pete tomorrow if he still sounds rough, but why not give him something to play with rather than lynching someone you always want to lynch on D1? Let's lynch someone else. And if that's me, then cool, let's do that, just remember to spread the shit D1 lynches around. That said, Pete wasn't D1 lynched in the other games, just was a candidate. Meh. I just don't think there's any point in lynching Pete.

thumbsdown

Lynch me then. I never get d1 lynched so if we are excusing people for "typical behavior" then I don't know how to play.

I want to lynch Pete because he's acting like he's cruising for mislynches. His reasoning is bad, and he doesn't even seem apologetic for pushing bad reasons. That's different than the Pete of last game, and it frustrates me that you're saying he just draws heat unfairly.


I think I am in danger of talking about The Game rather than this game. I shall stop.

However, this attack on Pete is leading me to make a clear judgement that if any of you three (Gel, LJ, Jared) are Evil, it is without knowledge of Evil Pete. But if Pete flips Good, I think that one or more of you is definitely Evil, so there is value to me in this exchange and now there is value in Pete's lynch, if only for information.

So are you willing to lynch Pete now?


I hadn't considered Mimic in thinking of the value of Pete's reveal, but that is a limited issue. I think I would rather see Mir, LJ or Absnook lynched than Pete. LJ probably least because I have history in making bad calls there. I don't see Pete's claim adding anything to my decision on whether to lynch him or not, so, kind of counter-intuitively, I won't add my vote for pressure, but I probably would hammer.
Mathieu

ljtrigirl wrote:

Borgoto wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Borgoto wrote:

Why are you applying that to Pete and not to me?


You voted me for different reasons.

You also gave off your good tell.


WINK.


Ok, now you're weirding me out.


Hey LJ, tell me what you think my good tell is and if I believe you i'll change my vote.
L Squared

Borgoto wrote:

[BGCOLOR=#FF9900]OK! I say we need to get things moving today.

Some people just dont seem to be following the game at all![/BGCOLOR]

I dont see what's wrong with Absnook. Right now I could see myself being ok with a lynch on LJ or Miraria among the top candidates.

Is everyone reading LJ as good? I usually expect her to be more present, even in day 1's. Not even posted in 4 days.



This. I've seen you complain about posts exactly twice, and you were good both times.

When you're evil, you just go with the posting levels.
L Squared
In fact, I remember thinking you were good for doing it the second time too.
Dave ??arski-Riley

JaredW25 wrote:

Not going to lie smug, if Pete flips wolf and you are only the hammer vote I will probably scream for your lynch tomorrow assuming I'm alive.


That's fine, it'll be a mislynch, but one I can understand. I get this is pure WIFOM, but have you ever seen me defend anyone Evil like this as Evil before?
Sirius Black

Kiwi13cubed wrote:

gelrod wrote:

Kiwi, while we're making unreasonable requests can you set up the ISOs as individual RSS feeds?

Please direct unreasonable requests to https://www.pivotaltracker.com/n/projects/1450592 whistle


Please direct reasonable requests there as well. Let's leave this thread for game discussion and not ModKiwi discussion.

Thank you.
Dave ??arski-Riley

JaredW25 wrote:

I'll probably convince myself that's the case if he flips wolf and you flip good.


Just like I wasn't the Seer right?
L Squared

Smugvid wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

Not going to lie smug, if Pete flips wolf and you are only the hammer vote I will probably scream for your lynch tomorrow assuming I'm alive.


That's fine, it'll be a mislynch, but one I can understand. I get this is pure WIFOM, but have you ever seen me defend anyone Evil like this as Evil before?


I almost asked if you knew he was a wolf, but I hate those questions.

I'm considering nightfalling Pete.
Dave ??arski-Riley
It's fine Jared. I know you have your way and those that go contrary to it are outlaws. Can we move forward for now? This is as much my fault as anybody else's, I know the framework in which I have to play.
L Squared

JaredW25 wrote:

I'd support lunching smug.

If he flips wolf or mimic then we could lynch Pete tomorrow.


ljtrigirl previously rolled 1custom2{Smugvid;PeteVasi} = ( PeteVasi) (Who should we lynch?)
L Squared
Nah. I'm staying on Pete.
Triumphant

ljtrigirl wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

absnook wrote:

After a reread:

Getting positive vibes from Borgoto (he feels like a Resistance game I played with him when he was good)
Gelrod's been all over the map, and I'm not sure if he's joking or not.
Robb too.
Smug is probably my worst read right now - Miraria feels like a default choice.

[vote Smug]


I'm the only one voting for her with a reason that is more solid than "this person isn't here".


No. I was voting her because last time I voted her before she showed up, she "tsk tsk"ed me when she got here.

Mir- Why didn't you comment on my vote on you at all?


Why would I? i don't feel the need to comment on every vote everyone makes on me. And I don't take them personally. i'm not upset you voted me.
Dave ??arski-Riley
That sounds shitty, what I mean is, I understand why you think you do and why you would make the statements you have and accept responsibility for that.
Dave ??arski-Riley

JaredW25 wrote:

Can somebody voting LJ explain why they think she's evil?

I have her on my no lynch list, and I'd like to hear why you disagree.


While I'm not voting for her, my support for it is based on little other than a vague feeling. Which is about par for the course for me on D1.

I am kind of surprised that I appear to be a lynch candidate on the theory that I viewed Pete as Wolf. It's a bit of a fringe case and even if I flip green today (which I cannot in that world) my defence of him is a baseless one regardless and thus easily ignored.
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
ljtrigirl - 3 - DeMorcerf (27), Borgoto (29), PeteVasi (35)
absnook - 3 - Miraria (33), Robb (34), Smugvid (36)
PeteVasi - 3 - ljtrigirl (8) , absnook (19) , JaredW25 (21) , gelrod (22) , JaredW25* (23), ljtrigirl (38), AnneAa (39)
Smugvid - 2 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10) , gelrod (31), absnook (32), ljtrigirl (37)
Borgoto - 0 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11) , JaredW25 (12)
AnneAa - 0 - Borgoto (9) , absnook (18)
JaredW25 - 0 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14) , Smugvid (15)
gelrod - 0 - absnook (2) , JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13) , PeteVasi (20) , Smugvid (25)
Miraria - 0 - ljtrigirl (24) , AnneAa (26) , Smugvid (28)
Robb - 0 - AnneAa (16) , JaredW25 (17) , gelrod (30)
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Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)
Dave ??arski-Riley

JaredW25 wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

Can somebody voting LJ explain why they think she's evil?

I have her on my no lynch list, and I'd like to hear why you disagree.


While I'm not voting for her, my support for it is based on little other than a vague feeling. Which is about par for the course for me on D1.

I am kind of surprised that I appear to be a lynch candidate on the theory that I viewed Pete as Wolf. It's a bit of a fringe case and even if I flip green today (which I cannot in that world) my defence of him is a baseless one regardless and thus easily ignored.

Then why won't you vote for him?


Because I don't think he's Evil? I don't just want to lynch anyone, though I understand you kind of do, I'd much rather we lynch Absnook or Mir. One of whom is currently sat on 3 votes. Why won't you lynch Absnook?
Dave ??arski-Riley

JaredW25 wrote:

You're simultaneously discounting your read on Pete and defending his lynch.

It's incredibly pingy.


I always am! I have no reasons to vote Pete. I hear your arguments and I do not find them compelling. My read of Pete is pretty nothing, but I will regularly vote away from the leaders if I don't buy into their lynch. If we had Cassy, I would say that you should go look how often I'm on a singleton vote at lynch. I vote for who I think is Evil, I don't vote where I have no read, unless I am trying to save someone I have a good read on. If you want me to vote Pete, run Borgoto or Robb up.
Dave ??arski-Riley

JaredW25 wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

Can somebody voting LJ explain why they think she's evil?

I have her on my no lynch list, and I'd like to hear why you disagree.


While I'm not voting for her, my support for it is based on little other than a vague feeling. Which is about par for the course for me on D1.

I am kind of surprised that I appear to be a lynch candidate on the theory that I viewed Pete as Wolf. It's a bit of a fringe case and even if I flip green today (which I cannot in that world) my defence of him is a baseless one regardless and thus easily ignored.

Then why won't you vote for him?


Because I don't think he's Evil? I don't just want to lynch anyone, though I understand you kind of do, I'd much rather we lynch Absnook or Mir. One of whom is currently sat on 3 votes. Why won't you lynch Absnook?

Why would I lynch absnook?

He's a neutral read. Pete is my worst read. Coincidentally I can't move my vote anyway.


Reverse the players and we have equivalency, other than I can move my vote.
Dave ??arski-Riley
Good news is, I am reading you as Good now, so you can either bask in the glory of fooling me or be pleased that I am reading you appropriately.
Dave ??arski-Riley

JaredW25 wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

You're simultaneously discounting your read on Pete and defending his lynch.

It's incredibly pingy.


I always am! I have no reasons to vote Pete. I hear your arguments and I do not find them compelling. My read of Pete is pretty nothing, but I will regularly vote away from the leaders if I don't buy into their lynch. If we had Cassy, I would say that you should go look how often I'm on a singleton vote at lynch. I vote for who I think is Evil, I don't vote where I have no read, unless I am trying to save someone I have a good read on. If you want me to vote Pete, run Borgoto or Robb up.

Wow this post is fucking evil.

It's also full of lies.

You "don't think Pete is evil" while you also have a "nothing read" on Pete.

You're literally defending and back pedaling in the same breath.

What the heck?


Thinking someone is not Evil is not equal to thinking someone is Good. That is a logical misstep.
Dave ??arski-Riley

JaredW25 wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

Can somebody voting LJ explain why they think she's evil?

I have her on my no lynch list, and I'd like to hear why you disagree.


While I'm not voting for her, my support for it is based on little other than a vague feeling. Which is about par for the course for me on D1.

I am kind of surprised that I appear to be a lynch candidate on the theory that I viewed Pete as Wolf. It's a bit of a fringe case and even if I flip green today (which I cannot in that world) my defence of him is a baseless one regardless and thus easily ignored.

Then why won't you vote for him?


Because I don't think he's Evil? I don't just want to lynch anyone, though I understand you kind of do, I'd much rather we lynch Absnook or Mir. One of whom is currently sat on 3 votes. Why won't you lynch Absnook?

Why would I lynch absnook?

He's a neutral read. Pete is my worst read. Coincidentally I can't move my vote anyway.


Reverse the players and we have equivalency, other than I can move my vote.

Why is absnook an evil read?

I've explained why Pete is evil.


Absnook misrepresented my vote on Mir.
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
ljtrigirl - 3 - DeMorcerf (27), Borgoto (29), PeteVasi (35)
absnook - 3 - Miraria (33), Robb (34), Smugvid (36)
PeteVasi - 3 - ljtrigirl (8) , absnook (19) , JaredW25 (21) , gelrod (22) , JaredW25* (23), ljtrigirl (38), AnneAa (39)
Smugvid - 2 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10) , gelrod (31), absnook (32), ljtrigirl (37)
Borgoto - 0 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11) , JaredW25 (12)
AnneAa - 0 - Borgoto (9) , absnook (18)
JaredW25 - 0 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14) , Smugvid (15)
gelrod - 0 - absnook (2) , JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13) , PeteVasi (20) , Smugvid (25)
Miraria - 0 - ljtrigirl (24) , AnneAa (26) , Smugvid (28)
Robb - 0 - AnneAa (16) , JaredW25 (17) , gelrod (30)
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PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)
George Buss
[Vote RoyalApe]
Dave ??arski-Riley
While it would be an equally fruitless conversation, I would enjoy discussing this exchange with you at the end of the game. Of course we shall not, for it will be forgotten by me by then, but I really don't get your argument here dude. My only way to disprove it to you is to mislynch myself and then I flip Good and you would then know that I could not be Mimic with a view of Wolf Pete, but it tells us nothing about Pete and just puts us one man down.
Dave ??arski-Riley
Anyway, bed time. It's not impossible that I'll be lynched overnight, because I am obviously Evil. I claim Villager (SURPRISE). Lets move on from this ludicrous theory, even if the only way to move on is lynching me.
Dave ??arski-Riley

JaredW25 wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

While it would be an equally fruitless conversation, I would enjoy discussing this exchange with you at the end of the game. Of course we shall not, for it will be forgotten by me by then, but I really don't get your argument here dude. My only way to disprove it to you is to mislynch myself and then I flip Good and you would then know that I could not be Mimic with a view of Wolf Pete, but it tells us nothing about Pete and just puts us one man down.

TheN HELP ME LYNCH PETE!!


But I am not reading him as Evil. Why would I lynch such a person?
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
ljtrigirl - 3 - DeMorcerf (27), Borgoto (29), PeteVasi (35)
absnook - 3 - Miraria (33), Robb (34), Smugvid (36)
PeteVasi - 3 - ljtrigirl (8) , absnook (19) , JaredW25 (21) , gelrod (22) , JaredW25* (23), ljtrigirl (38), AnneAa (39)
Smugvid - 2 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10) , gelrod (31), absnook (32), ljtrigirl (37)
Borgoto - 0 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11) , JaredW25 (12)
AnneAa - 0 - Borgoto (9) , absnook (18)
JaredW25 - 0 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14) , Smugvid (15)
gelrod - 0 - absnook (2) , JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13) , PeteVasi (20) , Smugvid (25)
Miraria - 0 - ljtrigirl (24) , AnneAa (26) , Smugvid (28)
Robb - 0 - AnneAa (16) , JaredW25 (17) , gelrod (30)
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AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)
Mathieu
LJ has not convinced me she is good with the good tell thing and I just reread Smug and Pete. I'd vote Smug before Pete or absnook for sure.

Vote smug

I dont like he's going away for the night now though.
Dave ??arski-Riley

Smugvid wrote:

absnook wrote:

After a reread:

Getting positive vibes from Borgoto (he feels like a Resistance game I played with him when he was good)
Gelrod's been all over the map, and I'm not sure if he's joking or not.
Robb too.
Smug is probably my worst read right now - Miraria feels like a default choice.

[vote Smug]


I'm the only one voting for her with a reason that is more solid than "this person isn't here".


This was the post, Jared. I entirely explained why I was voting Mir, whether the reasoning was acceptable to Absnook or not. I cannot see how my vote was a default choice. Especially as two others voting for her had yet to explain the rationale for it.
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Vote Tally:
absnook - 3 - Miraria (33), Robb (34), Smugvid (36)
PeteVasi - 3 - ljtrigirl (8) , absnook (19) , JaredW25 (21) , gelrod (22) , JaredW25* (23), ljtrigirl (38), AnneAa (39)
Smugvid - 3 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10) , gelrod (31), absnook (32), ljtrigirl (37) , Borgoto (40)
ljtrigirl - 2 - DeMorcerf (27), Borgoto (29) , PeteVasi (35)
Borgoto - 0 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11) , JaredW25 (12)
AnneAa - 0 - Borgoto (9) , absnook (18)
JaredW25 - 0 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14) , Smugvid (15)
gelrod - 0 - absnook (2) , JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13) , PeteVasi (20) , Smugvid (25)
Miraria - 0 - ljtrigirl (24) , AnneAa (26) , Smugvid (28)
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DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)
Dave ??arski-Riley

Borgoto wrote:

LJ has not convinced me she is good with the good tell thing and I just reread Smug and Pete. I'd vote Smug before Pete or absnook for sure.

Vote smug

I dont like he's going away for the night now though.


Don't worry about that bro, I have claimed, lynch as you see fit. If I die, I die.
Dave ??arski-Riley

JaredW25 wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

While it would be an equally fruitless conversation, I would enjoy discussing this exchange with you at the end of the game. Of course we shall not, for it will be forgotten by me by then, but I really don't get your argument here dude. My only way to disprove it to you is to mislynch myself and then I flip Good and you would then know that I could not be Mimic with a view of Wolf Pete, but it tells us nothing about Pete and just puts us one man down.

TheN HELP ME LYNCH PETE!!


But I am not reading him as Evil. Why would I lynch such a person?

You said yourself it's informational.


But my worst read has as many votes as Pete. I'd rather people voted for someone who I feel is Evil than someone I'll have some potential information from. This is becoming circular though, so I am going and we'll see where we are tomorrow.
Mathieu

JaredW25 wrote:

Borgoto wrote:

LJ has not convinced me she is good with the good tell thing and I just reread Smug and Pete. I'd vote Smug before Pete or absnook for sure.

Vote smug

I dont like he's going away for the night now though.

Why is Pete good?


What I said is that he looks better than Smug to me. I like his tone and posts. I don't know him really though.
Triumphant

ljtrigirl wrote:

My top suspects right now are Pete, Miraria, and Smug.

Pete's vote on me stunk, and the way that Smug encouraged votes on me without voting or giving reasons was sketchtastic.

I think Miraria's participation has been a lot of commentary on the pleasantness and excuses for not being here. Her lack of response to my vote on her made me feel like she was trying to minimalize it.

I don't think I'd lynch Jared, Borgoto, or absnook today. Maybe DeMO either.


I don't have excuses for not being here. I told you when i will not be here. and thats not an excuse. i won't be here during those times for any game.

and pshaw on my lack of response to your vote. if everyone was required to respond to every vote this game would be intolerable.
Mathieu
Triumphant

gelrod wrote:

miraria wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

My top suspects right now are Pete, Miraria, and Smug.

Pete's vote on me stunk, and the way that Smug encouraged votes on me without voting or giving reasons was sketchtastic.

I think Miraria's participation has been a lot of commentary on the pleasantness and excuses for not being here. Her lack of response to my vote on her made me feel like she was trying to minimalize it.

I don't think I'd lynch Jared, Borgoto, or absnook today. Maybe DeMO either.


I don't have excuses for not being here. I told you when i will not be here. and thats not an excuse. i won't be here during those times for any game.

and pshaw on my lack of response to your vote. if everyone was required to respond to every vote this game would be intolerable.


Mir, the cool kids are voting Pete or Smug. Consolidate.


no. i think that pete and smug are linked thing is ridiculous. And I am not caught up in the thread.
Triumphant

miraria wrote:

gelrod wrote:

miraria wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

My top suspects right now are Pete, Miraria, and Smug.

Pete's vote on me stunk, and the way that Smug encouraged votes on me without voting or giving reasons was sketchtastic.

I think Miraria's participation has been a lot of commentary on the pleasantness and excuses for not being here. Her lack of response to my vote on her made me feel like she was trying to minimalize it.

I don't think I'd lynch Jared, Borgoto, or absnook today. Maybe DeMO either.


I don't have excuses for not being here. I told you when i will not be here. and thats not an excuse. i won't be here during those times for any game.

and pshaw on my lack of response to your vote. if everyone was required to respond to every vote this game would be intolerable.


Mir, the cool kids are voting Pete or Smug. Consolidate.


no. i think that pete and smug are linked thing is ridiculous. And I am not caught up in the thread.


Also, I'm very definitely not one of the cool kids around here.

So why start now.
Mathieu

miraria wrote:

miraria wrote:

gelrod wrote:

miraria wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

My top suspects right now are Pete, Miraria, and Smug.

Pete's vote on me stunk, and the way that Smug encouraged votes on me without voting or giving reasons was sketchtastic.

I think Miraria's participation has been a lot of commentary on the pleasantness and excuses for not being here. Her lack of response to my vote on her made me feel like she was trying to minimalize it.

I don't think I'd lynch Jared, Borgoto, or absnook today. Maybe DeMO either.


I don't have excuses for not being here. I told you when i will not be here. and thats not an excuse. i won't be here during those times for any game.

and pshaw on my lack of response to your vote. if everyone was required to respond to every vote this game would be intolerable.


Mir, the cool kids are voting Pete or Smug. Consolidate.


no. i think that pete and smug are linked thing is ridiculous. And I am not caught up in the thread.


Also, I'm very definitely not one of the cool kids around here.

So why start now.


That's what the cool kids say!
Dave ??arski-Riley

JaredW25 wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

While it would be an equally fruitless conversation, I would enjoy discussing this exchange with you at the end of the game. Of course we shall not, for it will be forgotten by me by then, but I really don't get your argument here dude. My only way to disprove it to you is to mislynch myself and then I flip Good and you would then know that I could not be Mimic with a view of Wolf Pete, but it tells us nothing about Pete and just puts us one man down.

TheN HELP ME LYNCH PETE!!


But I am not reading him as Evil. Why would I lynch such a person?

You said yourself it's informational.


But my worst read has as many votes as Pete. I'd rather people voted for someone who I feel is Evil than someone I'll have some potential information from. This is becoming circular though, so I am going and we'll see where we are tomorrow.

Dude you earlier argued you'd rather vote for people with few votes. So why not vote somebody besides absnook? You're contradicting yourself left and right.


I didn't go to sleep as I am an idiot. However, I have no idea how I'm contradicting myself here. But if I am, I refer you to my statements about memory. I'll have forgotten what I said, both statements will be true for a given value of "true".

(Sort of OOG)While using RL excuses for stuff is somewhat weak, I feel I should be a lot more open about how my mental health and semi-related issues impacts my life. There's probably a post/thread coming about it in the near future, but I'm building up courage and resolve. It is not impacting me any differently now than other times, so it is not an attempt to change your perception of me this game, so please don't let it.
Sirius Black

JaredW25 wrote:

R{royal can you disable nightfall? I want to nightfall smug!


Nightfall is not enabled. It is Majority Rules
Robb Effinger

ljtrigirl wrote:

Robb wrote:

Borgoto wrote:

OK! I say we need to get things moving today.

Some people just dont seem to be following the game at all!

I dont see what's wrong with Absnook. Right now I could see myself being ok with a lynch on LJ or Miraria among the top candidates.

Is everyone reading LJ as good? I usually expect her to be more present, even in day 1's. Not even posted in 4 days.



Oh, right, thanks for the reminder! Ya, no, I was thinking about moving my vote to lj instead.


Question to both Rob and Borgoto:

Do you think I'd ever be intentionally absent as evil? Why would me not being here link to my alignment at all?


You might not be absent, but you might be following along, not bothering to post. It's hard to differentiate the two.
L Squared

Borgoto wrote:

LJ has not convinced me she is good with the good tell thing and I just reread Smug and Pete. I'd vote Smug before Pete or absnook for sure.

Vote smug

I dont like he's going away for the night now though.


cry just once, I want you to think I'm good when I actually am.
Robb Effinger

ljtrigirl wrote:

AnneAa wrote:

Cool. Smug and Pete are my suspects as well, I think Pete is more wolfy and smug more auxy.


Got to this post and stopped.

Anne can join my town circle too.


So I've played with Anne once. Everyone thought she was good on D1. She was totally evil. Why are people certain she's good this game?
L Squared

Smugvid wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

While it would be an equally fruitless conversation, I would enjoy discussing this exchange with you at the end of the game. Of course we shall not, for it will be forgotten by me by then, but I really don't get your argument here dude. My only way to disprove it to you is to mislynch myself and then I flip Good and you would then know that I could not be Mimic with a view of Wolf Pete, but it tells us nothing about Pete and just puts us one man down.

TheN HELP ME LYNCH PETE!!


But I am not reading him as Evil. Why would I lynch such a person?

You said yourself it's informational.


But my worst read has as many votes as Pete. I'd rather people voted for someone who I feel is Evil than someone I'll have some potential information from. This is becoming circular though, so I am going and we'll see where we are tomorrow.


Hrm.

I kind of like this post.
L Squared

miraria wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

My top suspects right now are Pete, Miraria, and Smug.

Pete's vote on me stunk, and the way that Smug encouraged votes on me without voting or giving reasons was sketchtastic.

I think Miraria's participation has been a lot of commentary on the pleasantness and excuses for not being here. Her lack of response to my vote on her made me feel like she was trying to minimalize it.

I don't think I'd lynch Jared, Borgoto, or absnook today. Maybe DeMO either.


I don't have excuses for not being here. I told you when i will not be here. and thats not an excuse. i won't be here during those times for any game.

and pshaw on my lack of response to your vote. if everyone was required to respond to every vote this game would be intolerable.

But every time I've made a vote like that on you, you've responded to it.
L Squared
Well, except for this time.
L Squared

Robb wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Robb wrote:

Borgoto wrote:

OK! I say we need to get things moving today.

Some people just dont seem to be following the game at all!

I dont see what's wrong with Absnook. Right now I could see myself being ok with a lynch on LJ or Miraria among the top candidates.

Is everyone reading LJ as good? I usually expect her to be more present, even in day 1's. Not even posted in 4 days.



Oh, right, thanks for the reminder! Ya, no, I was thinking about moving my vote to lj instead.


Question to both Rob and Borgoto:

Do you think I'd ever be intentionally absent as evil? Why would me not being here link to my alignment at all?


You might not be absent, but you might be following along, not bothering to post. It's hard to differentiate the two.


Not with me. I never follow along but ain't post.
L Squared
In other news, 3 margaritas on avwednesday might be too many.
Mathieu

ljtrigirl wrote:

In other news, 3 margaritas on avwednesday might be too many.


That's not news.
Triumphant

ljtrigirl wrote:

miraria wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

My top suspects right now are Pete, Miraria, and Smug.

Pete's vote on me stunk, and the way that Smug encouraged votes on me without voting or giving reasons was sketchtastic.

I think Miraria's participation has been a lot of commentary on the pleasantness and excuses for not being here. Her lack of response to my vote on her made me feel like she was trying to minimalize it.

I don't think I'd lynch Jared, Borgoto, or absnook today. Maybe DeMO either.


I don't have excuses for not being here. I told you when i will not be here. and thats not an excuse. i won't be here during those times for any game.

and pshaw on my lack of response to your vote. if everyone was required to respond to every vote this game would be intolerable.

But every time I've made a vote like that on you, you've responded to it.


I'm pretty sure I don't respond to a lot of votes that have been made on me. your votes on me are a very small sample size.
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Vote Tally:
absnook - 3 - Miraria (33), Robb (34), Smugvid (36)
PeteVasi - 3 - ljtrigirl (8) , absnook (19) , JaredW25 (21) , gelrod (22) , JaredW25 (23), ljtrigirl (38), AnneAa (39)
Smugvid - 3 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10) , gelrod (31), absnook (32), ljtrigirl (37) , Borgoto (40)
ljtrigirl - 2 - DeMorcerf (27), Borgoto (29) , PeteVasi (35)
Borgoto - 0 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11) , JaredW25 (12)
AnneAa - 0 - Borgoto (9) , absnook (18)
JaredW25 - 0 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14) , Smugvid (15)
gelrod - 0 - absnook (2) , JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13) , PeteVasi (20) , Smugvid (25)
Miraria - 0 - ljtrigirl (24) , AnneAa (26) , Smugvid (28)
Robb - 0 - AnneAa (16) , JaredW25 (17) , gelrod (30)
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DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Smugvid - 4 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10) , gelrod (31), absnook (32), ljtrigirl (37) , Borgoto (40), JaredW25 (41)
absnook - 3 - Miraria (33), Robb (34), Smugvid (36)
ljtrigirl - 2 - DeMorcerf (27), Borgoto (29) , PeteVasi (35)
PeteVasi - 2 - ljtrigirl (8) , absnook (19) , JaredW25 (21) , gelrod (22) , JaredW25 (23) , ljtrigirl (38), AnneAa (39)
Borgoto - 0 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11) , JaredW25 (12)
AnneAa - 0 - Borgoto (9) , absnook (18)
JaredW25 - 0 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14) , Smugvid (15)
gelrod - 0 - absnook (2) , JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13) , PeteVasi (20) , Smugvid (25)
Miraria - 0 - ljtrigirl (24) , AnneAa (26) , Smugvid (28)
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DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Smugvid - 4 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10) , gelrod (31), absnook (32), ljtrigirl (37) , Borgoto (40) , JaredW25 (41), Borgoto (42)
absnook - 3 - Miraria (33), Robb (34), Smugvid (36)
ljtrigirl - 2 - DeMorcerf (27), Borgoto (29) , PeteVasi (35)
PeteVasi - 2 - ljtrigirl (8) , absnook (19) , JaredW25 (21) , gelrod (22) , JaredW25 (23) , ljtrigirl (38), AnneAa (39)
Borgoto - 0 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11) , JaredW25 (12)
AnneAa - 0 - Borgoto (9) , absnook (18)
JaredW25 - 0 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14) , Smugvid (15)
gelrod - 0 - absnook (2) , JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13) , PeteVasi (20) , Smugvid (25)
Miraria - 0 - ljtrigirl (24) , AnneAa (26) , Smugvid (28)
Robb - 0 - AnneAa (16) , JaredW25 (17) , gelrod (30)
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Current Claims:
Smugvid - (no claim)
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)
Mathieu
Me and modkiwi are pals, we got plans.
Dave ??arski-Riley
I should have done this: claim Villager.

Anne - What are you thinking now?
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Smugvid - 4 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10) , gelrod (31), absnook (32), ljtrigirl (37) , Borgoto (40) , JaredW25 (41), Borgoto (42)
absnook - 3 - Miraria (33), Robb (34), Smugvid (36)
ljtrigirl - 2 - DeMorcerf (27), Borgoto (29) , PeteVasi (35)
PeteVasi - 2 - ljtrigirl (8) , absnook (19) , JaredW25 (21) , gelrod (22) , JaredW25 (23) , ljtrigirl (38), AnneAa (39)
Borgoto - 0 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11) , JaredW25 (12)
AnneAa - 0 - Borgoto (9) , absnook (18)
JaredW25 - 0 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14) , Smugvid (15)
gelrod - 0 - absnook (2) , JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13) , PeteVasi (20) , Smugvid (25)
Miraria - 0 - ljtrigirl (24) , AnneAa (26) , Smugvid (28)
Robb - 0 - AnneAa (16) , JaredW25 (17) , gelrod (30)
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Current Claims:
Smugvid - Villager
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - (no claim)
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)
L Squared

JaredW25 wrote:

I would still much rather lynch Pete.


Same, but I would hammer Smug here as well if it looks like we won't get critical mass to lynch him.
L Squared

JaredW25 wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

I would still much rather lynch Pete.


Same, but I would hammer Smug here as well if it looks like we won't get critical mass to lynch him.

So is smug willing to self save onto pete?


Lol
Dave ??arski-Riley

JaredW25 wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

I would still much rather lynch Pete.


Same, but I would hammer Smug here as well if it looks like we won't get critical mass to lynch him.

So is smug willing to self save onto pete?


Yes. But I think there is far too much focus on Pete here, where do we go if he flips Good.

In fact, let's assume he does. Where are you looking at that point?
L Squared

JaredW25 wrote:

Let's do this folks. Show up! Vote!


Dave ??arski-Riley
Then it wouldn't be the game that it is.
L Squared

JaredW25 wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Then it wouldn't be the game that it is.

Is it too much to expect for people to check in once a day and get current?
Yes.

This tends to draw people that can't play consistently every day.
L Squared
I'll probably vote smug soon. Anne- You around?
L Squared

JaredW25 wrote:

I'm good when other games are running; this is my only game at the moment though


Same. At least the Posion one and IronNiner are only a few off. (Still need 2 more for the IronNiners!)
Yeah, I'm managing to check in a bit quickly at lunch as that's when I have time available. It's apparently not working well. My vertical single-person reads I certainly didn't pay attention to time of posts. Phoops. I saved some stuff on my way catching up now.

Borgoto wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

Why the fuck are people voting me?


Because you werent posting! I'm open to being convinced to do something else.

This pings me, letting others shape your opinions. Like, "tell me where to vote!" Meh, not a lot though.

gelrod wrote:

Also Jared, call LJ "utr" sometime and see what happens.

Maybe my reasonings on read-through on gelrod weren't solid, maybe it's just a gut feel I've got. But that's what I've got. This sort of poke just feels FUDish.
L Squared

PeteVasi wrote:

gelrod wrote:

Also Jared, call LJ "utr" sometime and see what happens.

Maybe my reasonings on read-through on gelrod weren't solid, maybe it's just a gut feel I've got. But that's what I've got. This sort of poke just feels FUDish.


There's this thing that friends do when they play sometimes called joking around.
L Squared
That came out more condescending than I meant it to, I think.

ljtrigirl wrote:

PeteVasi wrote:

Did a quick re-read on lj too. She does a lot of talking about the game, but not a lot of digging into the game. Meta-talk, and no real vote in there. Like, you want to appear to have content but not actually generate said content.

[vote ljtrigirl]


Show me the content you gave at the point I was participating in the game.

Playing constant catch-up, I just assume that everyone is more up-to-date than I am. Probably dumb.

Recent lj doesn't sound so evil, but there's a lot of fight and concern over votes on herself. Maybe that's typical, I don't recall. Neutral read for now.
Dave ??arski-Riley
Pete - are you a Wolf? Should I be voting for you?

ljtrigirl wrote:

PeteVasi wrote:

gelrod wrote:

Also Jared, call LJ "utr" sometime and see what happens.

Maybe my reasonings on read-through on gelrod weren't solid, maybe it's just a gut feel I've got. But that's what I've got. This sort of poke just feels FUDish.


There's this thing that friends do when they play sometimes called joking around.


Yeah, and I get that. We're all playing too. Call it social awkwardness I guess.

ljtrigirl wrote:

That came out more condescending than I meant it to, I think.

Meh, I probably deserve it.

Smugvid wrote:

Pete - are you a Wolf? Should I be voting for you?

No, and make up your own mind.
There was a post somewhere that (I think) Smug was talking about not lynching me D1 because I sounded pingy. It struck me as silly. I do indeed sound pingy every game, but giving me or anyone a pass on D1 for it sounds terrible.
I better claim here I think. Can't think of a reason not to anyway. I am a villager.

claim villager
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Vote Tally:
Smugvid - 4 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10) , gelrod (31), absnook (32), ljtrigirl (37) , Borgoto (40) , JaredW25 (41), Borgoto (42)
absnook - 3 - Miraria (33), Robb (34), Smugvid (36)
ljtrigirl - 2 - DeMorcerf (27), Borgoto (29) , PeteVasi (35)
PeteVasi - 2 - ljtrigirl (8) , absnook (19) , JaredW25 (21) , gelrod (22) , JaredW25 (23) , ljtrigirl (38), AnneAa (39)
Borgoto - 0 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11) , JaredW25 (12)
AnneAa - 0 - Borgoto (9) , absnook (18)
JaredW25 - 0 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14) , Smugvid (15)
gelrod - 0 - absnook (2) , JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13) , PeteVasi (20) , Smugvid (25)
Miraria - 0 - ljtrigirl (24) , AnneAa (26) , Smugvid (28)
Robb - 0 - AnneAa (16) , JaredW25 (17) , gelrod (30)
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Current Claims:
Smugvid - Villager
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - villager
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)
Back to Smug thoughts (I giggled). I don't know quite what to make of him. Seemed a strange way to play seer, after the claim: doesn't sound like a villager. A wolf or mimic attaching to me to get a mislynch the next day? Sounds like a bit of a stretch, but maybe he found himself too far down a path and thought he'd take me down too? I dunno. Thinking out loud here. I'm willing to vote smug.
From what I can recall of my shortlist: will lynch: smug, borgoto, absnook, gelrod, ... mir? I don't remember a lot of her interactions.
good reads: Jared, Demo, Robb (that's dangerous)
meh on everyone else.
[vote Smugvid]
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Smugvid - 5 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10) , gelrod (31), absnook (32), ljtrigirl (37) , Borgoto (40) , JaredW25 (41), Borgoto (42), PeteVasi (43)
absnook - 3 - Miraria (33), Robb (34), Smugvid (36)
PeteVasi - 2 - ljtrigirl (8) , absnook (19) , JaredW25 (21) , gelrod (22) , JaredW25 (23) , ljtrigirl (38), AnneAa (39)
ljtrigirl - 1 - DeMorcerf (27), Borgoto (29) , PeteVasi (35)
Borgoto - 0 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11) , JaredW25 (12)
AnneAa - 0 - Borgoto (9) , absnook (18)
JaredW25 - 0 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14) , Smugvid (15)
gelrod - 0 - absnook (2) , JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13) , PeteVasi (20) , Smugvid (25)
Miraria - 0 - ljtrigirl (24) , AnneAa (26) , Smugvid (28)
Robb - 0 - AnneAa (16) , JaredW25 (17) , gelrod (30)
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Current Claims:
Smugvid - Villager
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - villager
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Smugvid - 5 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10) , gelrod (31), absnook (32), ljtrigirl (37) , Borgoto (40) , JaredW25 (41), Borgoto (42), PeteVasi (43)
absnook - 3 - Miraria (33), Robb (34), Smugvid (36)
PeteVasi - 2 - ljtrigirl (8) , absnook (19) , JaredW25 (21) , gelrod (22) , JaredW25 (23) , ljtrigirl (38), AnneAa (39)
ljtrigirl - 1 - DeMorcerf (27), Borgoto (29) , PeteVasi (35)
Borgoto - 0 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11) , JaredW25 (12)
AnneAa - 0 - Borgoto (9) , absnook (18)
JaredW25 - 0 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14) , Smugvid (15)
gelrod - 0 - absnook (2) , JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13) , PeteVasi (20) , Smugvid (25)
Miraria - 0 - ljtrigirl (24) , AnneAa (26) , Smugvid (28)
Robb - 0 - AnneAa (16) , JaredW25 (17) , gelrod (30)
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Current Claims:
Smugvid - Villager
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - villager
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)
Dave ??arski-Riley
I guess I have very little option then. Self saving to Pete doesn't gain anything if Jared doesn't move, but it's fruitless lynching me. I was hoping for Anne, DeMo and Robb to check in again and let me know where they were before moving, but given that two of them could kill me, I'll move and see what happens.

vote Pete
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Smugvid - 5 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10) , gelrod (31), absnook (32), ljtrigirl (37) , Borgoto (40) , JaredW25 (41), Borgoto (42), PeteVasi (43)
PeteVasi - 3 - ljtrigirl (8) , absnook (19) , JaredW25 (21) , gelrod (22) , JaredW25 (23) , ljtrigirl (38), AnneAa (39), Smugvid (44)
absnook - 2 - Miraria (33), Robb (34), Smugvid (36)
ljtrigirl - 1 - DeMorcerf (27), Borgoto (29) , PeteVasi (35)
Borgoto - 0 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11) , JaredW25 (12)
AnneAa - 0 - Borgoto (9) , absnook (18)
JaredW25 - 0 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14) , Smugvid (15)
gelrod - 0 - absnook (2) , JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13) , PeteVasi (20) , Smugvid (25)
Miraria - 0 - ljtrigirl (24) , AnneAa (26) , Smugvid (28)
Robb - 0 - AnneAa (16) , JaredW25 (17) , gelrod (30)
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Current Claims:
Smugvid - Villager
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - villager
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Smugvid - 4 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10) , gelrod (31), absnook (32), ljtrigirl (37) , Borgoto (40) , JaredW25 (41) , Borgoto (42), PeteVasi (43)
PeteVasi - 4 - ljtrigirl (8) , absnook (19) , JaredW25 (21) , gelrod (22) , JaredW25 (23) , ljtrigirl (38), AnneAa (39), Smugvid (44), JaredW25 (45)
absnook - 2 - Miraria (33), Robb (34), Smugvid (36)
ljtrigirl - 1 - DeMorcerf (27), Borgoto (29) , PeteVasi (35)
Borgoto - 0 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11) , JaredW25 (12)
AnneAa - 0 - Borgoto (9) , absnook (18)
JaredW25 - 0 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14) , Smugvid (15)
gelrod - 0 - absnook (2) , JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13) , PeteVasi (20) , Smugvid (25)
Miraria - 0 - ljtrigirl (24) , AnneAa (26) , Smugvid (28)
Robb - 0 - AnneAa (16) , JaredW25 (17) , gelrod (30)
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Current Claims:
Smugvid - Villager
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - villager
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)
L Squared

JaredW25 wrote:

Somebody want to move one of these guys to 5?


I want a lynch to happen today, so I'll move to Smug if we don't get enough on Pete.
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Smugvid - 5 - JaredW25 (5) , gelrod (10) , gelrod (31), absnook (32), ljtrigirl (37) , Borgoto (40) , JaredW25 (41) , Borgoto (42), PeteVasi (43), JaredW25 (46)
PeteVasi - 3 - ljtrigirl (8) , absnook (19) , JaredW25 (21) , gelrod (22) , JaredW25 (23) , ljtrigirl (38), AnneAa (39), Smugvid (44), JaredW25 (45)
absnook - 2 - Miraria (33), Robb (34), Smugvid (36)
ljtrigirl - 1 - DeMorcerf (27), Borgoto (29) , PeteVasi (35)
Borgoto - 0 - Smugvid (1) , Robb (3) , JaredW25 (6) , gelrod (11) , JaredW25 (12)
AnneAa - 0 - Borgoto (9) , absnook (18)
JaredW25 - 0 - gelrod (4) , Robb (14) , Smugvid (15)
gelrod - 0 - absnook (2) , JaredW25 (7) , DeMorcerf (13) , PeteVasi (20) , Smugvid (25)
Miraria - 0 - ljtrigirl (24) , AnneAa (26) , Smugvid (28)
Robb - 0 - AnneAa (16) , JaredW25 (17) , gelrod (30)
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Current Claims:
Smugvid - Villager
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - villager
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)
L Squared
[vote smug]

One more!
Kiwi's ModBot
[dusk]

Smugvid has a majority of votes!

Current Claims:
Smugvid - Villager
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - villager
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)
Dave ??arski-Riley
Okay.
Dave ??arski-Riley

JaredW25 wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Okay.

Go sign up for poisonous wolves bro!

Oh you already did. Derp me.


shake

[bitter]No doubt I'll be a candidate for D1 lynch there too.[/bitter]
L Squared
Dave ??arski-Riley
zombie
Didn't even realise I'd died, sorry.
zombie
Sirius Black

[killed Smugvid]

He was a villager

Night orders should be GM'd to me. Those without night orders should also "lock their actions" with me.

You may post.

Kiwi's ModBot
Current Claims:
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - villager
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Robb - (no claim)
L Squared
So, he can't have been mimic that viewed Pete as wolf.

He was either good or Mimic that got a villager N0.

Do you think Mimic!smug would view Villager!Pete and defend him like that?
L Squared
idk if I want to jump to Pete tomorrow.

I kinda want to reset my reads because I thought for sure that Smug would flip evil there. He could still be mimic, but I'm going to assume he's not.

I still like Anne, Borgoto, Jared. And probably DeMo.
L Squared
Shoulda listened to the dice. shake
Pok??mon Ranger Anne

JaredW25 wrote:

I think the next one of these should have a deadline where no lynch happens if we don't reach consensus after a few days.


I think Max put one of those up 2 maj rules ago.
Pok??mon Ranger Anne

Smugvid wrote:

I should have done this: claim Villager.

Anne - What are you thinking now?


Should I still answer this? Now or after dawn?
L Squared
If I'm the Seer, Jared is my N0.

If I'm the Martyr, I'm protecting Anne tonight.

If I'm the Mimic, DeMo is a Villager.
Mathieu
Ugh.. Those were both bad candidates.
Mathieu

gelrod wrote:

Borgoto wrote:

Ugh.. Those were both bad candidates.


Your face is a bad candidate.


I know! Don't lynch me!
Mathieu
Is there a timeline for dawn?
Dave ??arski-Riley

RoyalApe wrote:

Dawn

Dawn will be processed when all players have locked their actions or 24 horus after [Dusk] is posted by me-whichever comes sooner. Weekends will not count in this 24 hours.

R{There will be no talking between dusk and dawn.
Aaron

Borgoto wrote:

Is there a timeline for dawn?


Everyone needs to lock actions/send night actions first.
Mathieu

Smugvid wrote:

RoyalApe wrote:

Dawn

Dawn will be processed when all players have locked their actions or 24 horus after [Dusk] is posted by me-whichever comes sooner. Weekends will not count in this 24 hours.

R{There will be no talking between dusk and dawn.


But Royal said we could talk!
Sirius Black

Smugvid wrote:

RoyalApe wrote:

Dawn

Dawn will be processed when all players have locked their actions or 24 horus after [Dusk] is posted by me-whichever comes sooner. Weekends will not count in this 24 hours.

R{There will be no talking between dusk and dawn.


Modding on the road stinks.

Since I've already allowed posting and night posting restrictions are not my cup of tea anyway, I'm going to continue to allow posting on N1 this game.

So all living players may continue to post.
L Squared

absnook wrote:

Borgoto wrote:

Is there a timeline for dawn?


Everyone needs to lock actions/send night actions first.


That means that, even if you're a villager, you need to say "Lock actions."
Sirius Black

JaredW25 wrote:

RoyalApe wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

RoyalApe wrote:

Dawn

Dawn will be processed when all players have locked their actions or 24 horus after [Dusk] is posted by me-whichever comes sooner. Weekends will not count in this 24 hours.

R{There will be no talking between dusk and dawn.


Modding on the road stinks.

Since I've already allowed posting and night posting restrictions are not my cup of tea anyway, I'm going to continue to allow posting on N1 this game.

So all living players may continue to post.

When do you get back?


tonight
Robb Effinger

ljtrigirl wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

Smugvid wrote:

Then it wouldn't be the game that it is.

Is it too much to expect for people to check in once a day and get current?
Yes.

This tends to draw people that can't play consistently every day.


Yesterday I had work, which I try to avoid playing from, unless there isn't much to catch up on, or work is especially full of builds... and then I had plans in the evening (Pandemic Legacy! Whoo!)... Then I went to work again today, like a sucker. If I could guarantee I'd have time for WW every day, I could find a game with that time as a lynch deadline. But I can't, so I play this format.
L Squared
This is for you, Royal

It's adorable.

http://imgur.com/gallery/czPsFet

You have to actually go there since imgur doesn't let you embed videos yet.
L Squared
Thanks, guys!

Isn't it adorable?
Sirius Black
I'm not sure if I would have known it was a monkey without it saying so, but yes, very cute.
L Squared

RoyalApe wrote:

I'm not sure if I would have known it was a monkey without it saying so, but yes, very cute.


Babies can't jump like that
L Squared
Who the hell are we waiting on?
Null Account

ljtrigirl wrote:

Who the hell are we waiting on?

whistle
L Squared

JaredW25 wrote:

No but really. 24 hours!!


He's waiting for everyone to check in.

Don't worry, he already GMed people to tell them to check in. Lol.
L Squared

JaredW25 wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

No but really. 24 hours!!


He's waiting for everyone to check in.

Don't worry, he already GMed people to tell them to check in. Lol.

Nope. It's 24 hours or locked, whichever comes first.


THEN WHERE IS DAWN, ROYAL?!?!?
L Squared
heart
Sirius Black
NO POSTING PLEASE
Sirius Black
[DAWN]
[Killed Robb], he was the Martyr

You may post.
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
Not voting: AnneAa, Borgoto, DeMorcerf, JaredW25, Miraria, PeteVasi, absnook, gelrod, ljtrigirl

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Current Claims:
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - villager
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Pok??mon Ranger Anne


vote absnook to start.

Yesterday, he posted just enough to avoid suspicion and his vote on Smug was bad.

Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
absnook - 1 - AnneAa (1)
Not voting: Borgoto, DeMorcerf, JaredW25, Miraria, PeteVasi, absnook, gelrod, ljtrigirl

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Current Claims:
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - villager
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
absnook - 2 - AnneAa (1), JaredW25 (2)
Not voting: Borgoto, DeMorcerf, Miraria, PeteVasi, absnook, gelrod, ljtrigirl

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Current Claims:
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - villager
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Pok??mon Ranger Anne
I believe that claim.

DeMo was Robb's best read, Robb could have died protecting him.

Let's not rush to majority like we did in the last game, give everyone some time to check in.
L Squared
I'm going to start with a [vote miraria]
L Squared
Lol, Jared.

Pete- What went through your mind when you saw Jared's claim last night?
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
absnook - 2 - AnneAa (1), JaredW25 (2)
Miraria - 1 - ljtrigirl (3)
Not voting: Borgoto, DeMorcerf, Miraria, PeteVasi, absnook, gelrod

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Current Claims:
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - villager
absnook - (no claim)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
L Squared

JaredW25 wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

I'm going to start with a [vote miraria]

You realize she's gone until Monday?


So? I've got like 10 minutes of playing time until Monday. I'm only online now because my hair dye is setting.
L Squared

JaredW25 wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

I'm going to start with a [vote miraria]

You realize she's gone until Monday?


So? I've got like 10 minutes of playing time until Monday. I'm only online now because my hair dye is setting.

What color?


Turquoise
L Squared

gelrod wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

I'm going to start with a [vote miraria]

You realize she's gone until Monday?


So? I've got like 10 minutes of playing time until Monday. I'm only online now because my hair dye is setting.

What color?


Turquoise


I see you with more of a fuchsia.


Nah. I don't like pink.
L Squared

gelrod wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

gelrod wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

I'm going to start with a [vote miraria]

You realize she's gone until Monday?


So? I've got like 10 minutes of playing time until Monday. I'm only online now because my hair dye is setting.

What color?


Turquoise


I see you with more of a fuchsia.


Nah. I don't like pink.


That's why I said fuchsia.


They're like the same thing.
Aaron
OK, so things got rather interesting rather fast...it's about to get more interesting.

[claim Seer N0: PeteVasi(clear) N1: Gelrod(clear)]

I'm paranoid Jared's the mimic, but I don't think so. Questions?
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
absnook - 2 - AnneAa (1), JaredW25 (2)
Miraria - 1 - ljtrigirl (3)
Not voting: Borgoto, DeMorcerf, Miraria, PeteVasi, absnook, gelrod

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Current Claims:
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - villager
absnook - Seer N0: PeteVasi(clear) N1: Gelrod(clear)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
L Squared

absnook wrote:

OK, so things got rather interesting rather fast...it's about to get more interesting.

[claim Seer N0: PeteVasi(clear) N1: Gelrod(clear)]

I'm paranoid Jared's the mimic, but I don't think so. Questions?


Why don't you think Jared is the mimic?

Why did you view Gel?
Aaron

ljtrigirl wrote:

absnook wrote:

OK, so things got rather interesting rather fast...it's about to get more interesting.

[claim Seer N0: PeteVasi(clear) N1: Gelrod(clear)]

I'm paranoid Jared's the mimic, but I don't think so. Questions?


Why don't you think Jared is the mimic?

Why did you view Gel?


1) A combination of the fact that he read good to me yesterday, and the fact that he called that fake hit on Vanders last game.

2) Gelrod was my biggest null read yesterday.
L Squared
I don't think I believe you.
Aaron

ljtrigirl wrote:

I don't think I believe you.


Why?
Aaron
Also, re: Jared - I understand why he'd be pinged by me yesterday, since I was trying to a) not draw attention to myself, and b) trying to not get my N0 lynched.

It could be that he's the mimic, sensed that, and viewed me last night, which would be bad. I really hope that's not the case.
L Squared
Blech.

absnook- Did you leave any N0 hints?

Jared- Did you?
Aaron

ljtrigirl wrote:

Blech.

absnook- Did you leave any N0 hints?


absnook wrote:

Judging by Pete's comments on me and LJ, it appears that he did his read from the modkiwi app (as in, without the context of what was happening around - he was pinged by a comment I said before the game and LJ's posting during the meta phase).

Probably not the best way to read this thread.


This post.
Pok??mon Ranger Anne
http://mod-kiwi.appspot.com/thread?thread=1445222&username=a...#

Absnook - Why did you vote your N0 for 4 days straight and why do you speak icelandic?
Aaron

JaredW25 wrote:

I'm seriously not retracting.


Seriously seriously?
Aaron

AnneAa wrote:

http://mod-kiwi.appspot.com/thread?thread=1445222&username=a...#

Absnook - Why did you vote your N0 for 4 days straight and why do you speak icelandic?


I was conforming to my meta. (I actually didn't want to, but felt like I needed to after I "summoning voted" you and then LJ called me on that it wasn't actually one.

I speak Icelandic because I lived in Iceland for seven years (elementary school years).
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
absnook - 3 - AnneAa (1), JaredW25 (2), gelrod (4)
Miraria - 1 - ljtrigirl (3)
Not voting: Borgoto, DeMorcerf, Miraria, PeteVasi, absnook

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Current Claims:
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - villager
absnook - Seer N0: PeteVasi(clear) N1: Gelrod(clear)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Aaron

gelrod wrote:


He also claims he think Jared is a werewolf. Not a mimic, a werewolf. I think that's important.


I didn't say I thought Jared was a werewolf - in fact I find that quite unlikely, given the scrutiny on him when I flip. I thought this was one of his fake hits as good (see the 9er game with reveal). I've read him as good up to this point, but the longer he maintains this hit, the more I worry he may be the mimic. Either way, lynching him isn't useful.

My wolf pool now consists of {Borgoto, LJ, DeMo, Miraria, AnneAa} - LJ and Borgoto (and Anne to some extent) read well among that group. I'd like DeMo and maybe Miraria pressure today.

Jared - if you're good, please stop this.

[vote DeMo]
Kiwi's ModBot
Vote Tally:
absnook - 3 - AnneAa (1), JaredW25 (2), gelrod (4)
Miraria - 1 - ljtrigirl (3)
DeMorcerf - 1 - absnook (5)
Not voting: Borgoto, DeMorcerf, Miraria, PeteVasi

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Current Claims:
Borgoto - (no claim)
PeteVasi - villager
absnook - Seer N0: PeteVasi(clear) N1: Gelrod(clear)
AnneAa - (no claim)
JaredW25 - (no claim)
DeMorcerf - beholder
gelrod - kiwi reborn
ljtrigirl - (no claim)
Miraria - (no claim)
Aaron
With regard to Jared's "clear" of Anne - that's a read, not a hint. And you weren't the only one with that read.
Aaron

gelrod wrote:

absnook wrote:

gelrod wrote:


He also claims he think Jared is a werewolf. Not a mimic, a werewolf. I think that's important.


I didn't say I thought Jared was a werewolf - in fact I find that quite unlikely, given the scrutiny on him when I flip. I thought this was one of his fake hits as good (see the 9er game with reveal). I've read him as good up to this point, but the longer he maintains this hit, the more I worry he may be the mimic. Either way, lynching him isn't useful.

My wolf pool now consists of {Borgoto, LJ, DeMo, Miraria, AnneAa} - LJ and Borgoto (and Anne to some extent) read well among that group. I'd like DeMo and maybe Miraria pressure today.

Jared - if you're good, please stop this.

[vote DeMo]


Hmm. I misread your "I'm paranoid he's the mimic" statement as "I think he's a wolf but paranoid he's the mimic."

I'll think about it but I actually believe Jared is the seer. He did a few things day one that really tipped me off. This reveal didn't surprise me at all.

Why would you view me over LJ, Demo, or Mir?


DeMo or Mir were the other two options (LJ I read better than the other two). I'm also pretty bad at reading you (I seem to always think/suspect you're evil).
Aaron

gelrod wrote:

ljtrigirl wrote:

absnook wrote:

OK, so things got rather interesting rather fast...it's about to get more interesting.

[claim Seer N0: PeteVasi(clear) N1: Gelrod(clear)]

I'm paranoid Jared's the mimic, but I don't think so. Questions?


Why don't you think Jared is the mimic?

Why did you view Gel?


Oh, and this made me think "he thinks Jared's a wolf not a mimic."



So you think Jared is a villager making a play? Why would you put yourself as seer when you only have two clears and no martyr if you think Jared's just a villager making a play?


If I waited until I had 4 votes on me to claim, I don't think anyone would believe me. Besides, both clears are valuable.