Sirius Black
No Reveal 15er* III


Important Notes (you should read this):
*15 players will sign up, all roles get N0 actions so Wolves will get 2 Night Kills on N0. If a Player is Night Killed on N0, it will not count against their Win/Loss statistics.
*There is no role/alignment reveal.
*There are two NKs until one wolf has been killed.
*Wolves can NOT choose to "No Kill" or to Kill a Wolf. They can choose to double up on the same target.
*Dusk will be at 6:00pm BGG Time. Any votes made at 6:01pm or later will not count.
*No night posting. It will result in a Mod Kill.
*Dawn will be at 7:00pm BGG Time.

Good Roles (12)

Alliance Seer - Chooses a player on N0, and is not told any immediate information about that player. Each subsequent night, views another player, and will be told whether or not that player is on the same team as the last person they viewed. Must always choose a living person other than themselves.

Bodyguard - Each night, including N0, must choose one player to protect from being killed. That person will not die in the night unless there are multiple kills assigned to that player. Bodyguard can not target themselves, or the same player two nights in a row. Bodyguard won't be informed of a successful protect.

Vigilante - Once per game, including N0, may target any player to kill during the night. Vigilante is not brutal upon death. This ability will still take effect if the vigilante uses their ability on the same night that they get NKed, but will not take effect if the target is being protected by the bodyguard.

9 Villagers - The most awesome of all.

Not all of these roles will be in play on D1!

Evil Roles (3)

3 Werewolves - The werewolves know each other's identity, and can private message/chat without restriction. Each night, including N0, if there are three wolves alive, the wolves choose two players to kill. The werewolves can use both kills on one target. If there are one or two wolves alive, they only get one NK. If a wolf is shot by the vigilante during the night, and there were originally three wolves, wolves still get two NKs for that night. Wolves may not NK themselves or choose to not use NKs.

Victory Conditions

Good - All good players win if all werewolves are eliminated.

Evil - All evil players win if the wolves achieve parity: if at any time the number of wolves remaining equals the number of non-wolves remaining, evil wins.

History on this Set
Good = 1
Evil = 1
No Reveal 13er - Good Wins!!!
No Reveal 15er II - Evil Wins!!!
Cassandra Project
Player List According to Cassandra:
Benesephiir
gelrod
JaredW25
ortho_
Vanderscamp
ZenMonkey11

6 players are signed up.

To sign up for this game go to
http://www.thecassandraproject.org/jeremy/werewolf/game/1414...
Sirius Black
Game will be co-modded by:

[user=silverbonds]

Be gentle, it is her first time.
Alabaster
Awesome
Alabaster
I agree with this bump


But it's hard to signup without Cassy
Alabaster
Dude that's a good idea

The mod kiwi #1 game already has 11 players and an unknown roleset..
Kiwi's ModBot
Player list according to ModKiwi:
Applejack123
gelrod
JaredW25
Kiwi13cubed
PaperF
Smugvid
TFang
The_Rorab
Vanderscamp

9 players are signed up.

To sign up for this game, post signup in bold.
To remove yourself from this game, post remove in bold.
Kiwi's ModBot
current game status
Kiwi's ModBot
game history
Sirius Black
{Vanderscamp} signup
{Vanderscamp} nickname Vanders
{JaredW25} signup
{JaredW25} nickname Jared
Paper Luis
Sign me up!
Ron
Type signup in bold. Anyone can do it.
Sirius Black

PaperF wrote:

Sign me up!


Just type "signup" in bold.

{PaperF} signup
{PaperF} nickname Paper
Jim Ryan
In for now. Anniversary this weekend and a large trade show for work the week of Oct 26th, so if it looks like it will run during that time, I'll have to drop.

signup
nickname Jim
Ron

gelrod wrote:

signup
nickname god
nickname Big Jim
nickname nightfall
You do realize that will make every 'vote nightfall' vote for you ... not end the day.

Right?

... course, that does prompt the follow-on question. Kiwi, is there a way to remove nicknames?
Jim Ryan
Nah, the command is just nightfall. So vote nightfall and nightfall would get us to his lynch quickly
Jim Ryan

jimryan1 wrote:

In for now. Anniversary this weekend and a large trade show for work the week of Oct 26th, so if it looks like it will run during that time, I'll have to drop.

signup
nickname Jim


Well that was quick. Now travelling all 3 weeks after my trade show for more crazy work junk. Unless this runs much closer to the end of Nov, I have to bow out. If something changes I'll be back.

remove
Greg Wilson
Way back when, I think Redhawke or someone created Cassie accounts called 'nightfall' and 'no lynch' in order to break the system...
Alabaster
Blacksheep, are you in?


Only need 11 more for this to run!
Greg Wilson
Not right now, no.
Alabaster
We need to get some more peeps in this thing
Dave ??arski-Riley
You're right

[signup] [nickname smug] [nickname Wolf] [nickname Seer]
Tokah
signup
Rob Wyles
I've never played WW online before but as long as people are fine for me to probably not exactly play outstandingly and feel my way into things

I'm definitely up to signup and give this a go!
Ron
That's a good rule for every game, even when you're a vet.

FYSA - there'll be a "intro" game ready for signup in a couple of days. (Not trying to distract from Royal's game - just wanted the information out there.)
Karafruit Villager-Thrower
ah fruit it, why not

[signup]

Wolves, do me a favor and eat me N0

er, except don't eat me with a probablity of about 25%, so that if I don't get eaten I am equally likely to be a wolf or not a wolf...

[nickname kiwi][nickname kara][nickname kiwifruit][nickname karafruit][nickname kiwifruits][nickname kiwi2197][nickname kiwi really needs to make nicknames persist between games because she's tired of typing out all these nicknames each time]
Paper Luis
Come on, I want to play a game. angry angry
Silver
I have been in the aether can some explain what kiwi is
Karafruit Villager-Thrower

silverbonds wrote:

I have been in the aether can some explain what kiwi is

Nope.
Tokah

silverbonds wrote:

I have been in the aether can some explain what kiwi is


Kiwi is a cool WW player.

Modkiwi is an alternative tally tracker/post reader written by said cool player and given to us poor Cassy-less souls in our hour of need.
Silver

TFang wrote:

silverbonds wrote:

I have been in the aether can some explain what kiwi is


Kiwi is a cool WW player.

Modkiwi is an alternative tally tracker/post reader written by said cool player and given to us poor Cassy-less souls in our hour of need.


I HAVE MISSED THINGS
I NEED A SEASON RECAP
Tokah

silverbonds wrote:

TFang wrote:

silverbonds wrote:

I have been in the aether can some explain what kiwi is


Kiwi is a cool WW player.

Modkiwi is an alternative tally tracker/post reader written by said cool player and given to us poor Cassy-less souls in our hour of need.


I HAVE MISSED THINGS
I NEED A SEASON RECAP


Cassy died a while ago - 2 months? The power supply in her server gave out. When the physical hardware was resurrected, Cassy's database had been horribly corrupted.

Jmilum just got her working last week based off of backups from two years ago, and people are working to restore what historical data of the last 2 years of games they can.

Games that were running when Cassy died generally completed with manual tallies. Quicktopic became the standard place for wolf/dead chats, though there were other options used as well. (LJ ran a wolf chat through a google docs spreadsheet with a column for each of us wolves, that was both weird and neat.) We discovered that for less than 40 pages, you can display the whole game with the "printer friendly view" button and search for posts.

At first a lot of people wanted to wait for Cassy to come back after those games finished, but once it became clear that would take real time, a variety of game styles cropped up. Some were highly experimental - Fedora made the tally keeper an in-game role you got voted into, with whatever the tally keeper posted last being correct. Linguist took the opportunity to re-introduce the Gunsmen day kill mechanic, etc.

Some games weren't going to be able to work that way. Avin set up Helenus for a few of them, but there is a lot of backend work for each game Helenus runs. Kiwi tweaked her mod bot with some WWisms and gave us easy to set up games and vertical reads back. Pilotbob was motivated to bring his own nascent WW-bot to life, and many jokes were made about the competing mod bots.
Silver
I was here for Cassy going down, after a few weeks I was forced to actually job hunt and do school work. I HAD TO ADULT SO HARD I'M GLAD CASSY IS BACK
Cassandra Project
Player List According to Cassandra:
AlwaysIdle
Amekins
BerenCamlost
BlackSheep
FaleohFang
Imaniman
janiera
Jerival
Jimryan1
nolemonplease
ortho_
PaperF
Scarlett_O
stonecutter129
Vanderscamp

15 players are signed up.

To sign up for this game go to
http://www.thecassandraproject.org/jeremy/werewolf/game/1414...
Rob Wyles
Sorry, have to drop as I don't have the time in the near future to play!

remove
Sirius Black
I hope all the GenCon'ers had a good time. You should now be refreshed and ready to play a game!
Ron

JaredW25 wrote:

This game needs to happen.
According to you and Van, every game needs to happen.
Alabaster

linguistfromhell wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

This game needs to happen.
According to you and Van, every game needs to happen.


This one especially!
Sirius Black
bump.
Senkan Yamato
I just signed up on Cassandra.

signup
Amy O'Neal
Can I be on the winning team again? devil
Ron



?
Ron
Obviously sarcasm on my part.

IMO, the only good winning move in WW is to not worry about winning.
Amy O'Neal

linguistfromhell wrote:

Obviously sarcasm on my part.

IMO, the only good winning move in WW is to not worry about winning.


But winning is always fun... You just can't get upset if you do happen to lose...
Tokah

janiera wrote:

Can I be on the winning team again? devil


Only as good, I know your moves now lady!
Amy O'Neal

TFang wrote:

janiera wrote:

Can I be on the winning team again? devil


Only as good, I know your moves now lady!


But don't you think that telling me the moves would cause me to change them?

Don't be too sure that I'm not evil next time...
Amy O'Neal

janiera wrote:

TFang wrote:

janiera wrote:

Can I be on the winning team again? devil


Only as good, I know your moves now lady!


But don't you think that telling me the moves would cause me to change them?

Don't be too sure that I'm not evil next time...


I don't like being evil anyway...
Tokah
Sure, and I look forward to it. =) But it'll be a progression of tone read, not the ? you were to me entirely when we played this last one.
Tokah
Like, end of the last game, I went into the F3 thinking you were evil but spent almost 3 hours working to make sure you were. And I couldn't articulate my real reasoning well, either.

Things are better now. If you fool me, at least I won't spend 3 hours on it!
Amy O'Neal

TFang wrote:

Like, end of the last game, I went into the F3 thinking you were evil but spent almost 3 hours working to make sure you were. And I couldn't articulate my real reasoning well, either.

Things are better now. If you fool me, at least I won't spend 3 hours on it!


And you ended up getting lynched even though you did all that work...
Amy O'Neal

janiera wrote:

TFang wrote:

Like, end of the last game, I went into the F3 thinking you were evil but spent almost 3 hours working to make sure you were. And I couldn't articulate my real reasoning well, either.

Things are better now. If you fool me, at least I won't spend 3 hours on it!


And you ended up getting lynched even though you did all that work...


And I still feel bad for putting smug through that...
Tokah
Well, you did a good job on Smug, no shame there. I care a lot more about getting my own vote/effort in the right place, and I don't let other people's reactions get to me much.

I'm always playing my own personal game-within-a-game.
Dave ??arski-Riley
I think I would do better if that were to occur for the first time now, if you can understand what I'm saying.
Tokah

Smugvid wrote:

I think I would do better if that were to occur for the first time now, if you can understand what I'm saying.


I agree, even outside you getting better at reading me, which has also happened.
Alabaster
This game needs more peeps!
Ron

Vanderscamp wrote:

This game needs more peeps!

linguistfromhell wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

This game needs to happen.
According to you and Van, every game needs to happen.
Alabaster

linguistfromhell wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

This game needs more peeps!

linguistfromhell wrote:

JaredW25 wrote:

This game needs to happen.
According to you and Van, every game needs to happen.


Yeah, but this game especially.
Tokah
I'm in "unsigned from almost all SWF games" mode, but also watching to see it get more full. My time is dicey for March-May and you actually start your games when full, so I'm waiting to snipe my signup if it starts when I can play.
Alabaster
This isn't even one of my games anymore!
Sirius Black
I start when full*

*and ready to play
Ron
twss
I just signed up on Cassandra.
Tokah

Scarlett_O wrote:

I just signed up on Cassandra.


Scarlett! =)
Alabaster
Four people to go!!!!

TFang wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

I just signed up on Cassandra.


Scarlett! =)


Greg Wilson
So, warning in advance, I won't be here for lynch deadline, and I'm unlikely to post heavily. Is that going to be a problem?
Tokah

BlackSheep wrote:

So, warning in advance, I won't be here for lynch deadline, and I'm unlikely to post heavily. Is that going to be a problem?


Sheep! That isn't a problem at all.
Sirius Black

BlackSheep wrote:

So, warning in advance, I won't be here for lynch deadline, and I'm unlikely to post heavily. Is that going to be a problem?


Not as far as I'm concerned.

I'm reconfirming with all that have signed up to be sure we are still at 13 ready to start.
Amy O'Neal
I'm still in!
Sorry, time is not something I have right now.

Have a fun-filled game, guys!
Paper Luis
Still in!
Lisa
I'm in, although if someone wants to play who would be more able for it is be happy to give them my place

AlwaysIdle wrote:

I'm in, although if someone wants to play who would be more able for it is be happy to give them my place


No Lisa we want you !
Alabaster
ONE NORE



SO CLOSE
Sirius Black

Vanderscamp wrote:

ONE NORE



SO CLOSE


I don't have confirmations from all yet. We have two that can't play next week and one that is no good if it delays until May.
Sirius Black
Apple, Paper and TBom haven't responded.

I would love for TBom to play but I haven't seen him in ages.

So I'd say we are 4 away for playing next week and 3 if we go in May.
Alabaster

PaperF wrote:

Still in!
Sirius Black

Vanderscamp wrote:

PaperF wrote:

Still in!


How did I miss that?! Thanks
Sirius Black
OK, we are at:
11 if we start next week (no Fang or Kara)
12 if we start following week (no Mono)
John Agre
I'll join if this starts next week, definitely cannot do the first week of may.
Sirius Black

Jerival wrote:

I'll join if this starts next week, definitely cannot do the first week of may.


Go ahead and sign up, I'll remove you if we don't start.

Jerival wrote:

I'll join if this starts next week, definitely cannot do the first week of may.


Yeah!!! Jeri
Caitlin
I just signed up on Cassandra, but know I am going to attempt to not be here for the hours leading up to dusks. (If that is a problem for anyone, I don't mind leaving the seat back open for someone else.)
Sirius Black
Ok, I've dropped tfang and Kara. We are at 13 for a Monday start.
Alabaster
GET ON THE ADVERTIZING

LETS GET THIS GAME KN THE ROAD
Sirius Black
I've sent out private GMs and posted in advertising thread. Just need 2 more.
Sirius Black
NO POSTING PLEASE

Assigning Roles, prepping for N0.

Remember, wolves get two kills on n0. Seer, BG and Vigilante may all act on N0 as well.

Good Luck
Cassandra Project
The Cassandra Automatic Vote Tally System

Your Moderator has enabled the Cassandra Automatic Vote Tally system
for this game. In order for it to function correctly, your votes will
need to be formatted correctly. The following rules will explain what
you will need to do:

Players
1. All votes must be bolded

2. The entire vote statement must be bolded and enclosed in brackets:
[vote jmilum]

3. If your game allows, and you [vote nightfall] your vote will
be locked. Your moderator may have disabled nightfall votes.

4. Vote tallies will be automatically posted to the game thread
regularly if the tally has changed. The Tally and Vote Logs (for each
game day) are also available on the Cassandra game page.

5. If your vote is not counted be sure to check the Vote Log page and
see if it was marked invalid and why.

6. Case does not matter and simple typos will not cause the vote to fail.

7. You may [vote no lynch] if your game allows it.

8. Non voting players will be listed in the tallies. This will only be
correct if the Moderator notes which players have been killed (see below)

9. Editing a vote post will invalidate the vote and it will not be counted.


Moderators
1. The moderator will need to post [Dawn] when the day begins
(after the night results are posted) and [Dusk] when the lynch
deadline has passed and the day is over. Votes will not be counted
after [Dusk] has been posted. They will be registered again
after [Dawn] is next posted.

2. You may include a day number in the dawn and dusk post for
informational purposes, but it will not be used by the system.
Cassandra will increment an internal counter each time it sees
[Dawn] no matter what day is shown in a dawn post (i.e.
[Dawn 3] the three is allowed but ignored)

3. After dusk has been posted, the Moderator may go to the game page
on Cassandra to request a Final Tally to be posted before the normal
scan period has elapsed (i.e. Game Y gets scanned at 45 min. after the
hour, if it lynches at 7pm the moderator may request a tally to be
posted from the game page before 7:45pm. it will also be posted
regardless of whether or not it has been changed since the last
posting) - Do this by clicking on the 'Force Vote Tally' link.

4. You will need to note which players were killed via the lynch or at night by
either posting [killed jmilum] in the thread, or by going to the game
page and editing the player list. When posting in the thread, be sure to post
[dusk] before posting the lynch kill, and post [dawn] before
posting the night kill.
Example:
A. lynch time has passed so post [dusk]
B. goto the game page and select a final tally to be posted
C. check the final tally and post [killed melsana]
D. after the night deadline has passed post [dawn]
E. post the night kill with [killed kima]

Your Moderator has chosen to use the Longest Held Last Vote method for a tiebreaker - This is just for Cassandra system, and there may be a different tiebreaker specified by your Moderator in the ruleset.
Your Moderator has chosen to allow Nightfall votes.
Your Moderator has chosen to allow No Lynch votes.

Vote Log Page: http://www.thecassandraproject.org/jeremy/werewolf/game/1414...
Vote Tally Page: http://www.thecassandraproject.org/jeremy/werewolf/game/1414...
Sirius Black
Floofies has replaced Imaniman
Sirius Black
B{Guest moderator: Smugvid

Processing Dawn now. First lynch will be Monday at 6pm BGG.
Sirius Black
B{ [Killed Jerival]
[Killed nolemonplease]

[Dawn]


You may post
Paper Luis
angry
Paper Luis
[vote ortho] THAT WAS YOU!!!
Paper Luis
First thought: The wolves killed random people in order to prevent people from deciphering who's good and who's evil. Sad to see lemon and jerival go. Now, GET IN HERE PEOPLE!
Cassandra Project
VOTE TALLY

Player (13/15) - # - Voted by

ortho_ - 1 - PaperF(1)

Not Voting: AlwaysIdle, Amekins, BerenCamlost, BlackSheep, FaleohFang, Floofies, janiera, Jimryan1, ortho_, Scarlett_O, stonecutter129, Vanderscamp


Nightfall votes are denoted by an '*' after the player's name.

Your Moderator has chosen to use the Longest Held Last Vote method for a tiebreaker - This is just for Cassandra system, and there may be a different tiebreaker specified by your Moderator in the ruleset.

Lynch time is at 6:00 PM BGG
Night Action deadline is at 7:00 PM BGG
---------------------

INVERTED TALLY

Voter - # - Voted on

PaperF - 1 - ortho_(1)

Not Voting: AlwaysIdle, Amekins, BerenCamlost, BlackSheep, FaleohFang, Floofies, janiera, Jimryan1, ortho_, Scarlett_O, stonecutter129, Vanderscamp
Princess Sparklefists
Ello
Amy O'Neal
[vote Amekins], since I never trust her in any game...
Cassandra Project
VOTE TALLY

Player (13/15) - # - Voted by

ortho_ - 1 - PaperF(1)
Amekins - 1 - janiera(2)

Not Voting: AlwaysIdle, Amekins, BerenCamlost, BlackSheep, FaleohFang, Floofies, Jimryan1, ortho_, Scarlett_O, stonecutter129, Vanderscamp


Nightfall votes are denoted by an '*' after the player's name.

Your Moderator has chosen to use the Longest Held Last Vote method for a tiebreaker - This is just for Cassandra system, and there may be a different tiebreaker specified by your Moderator in the ruleset.

Lynch time is at 6:00 PM BGG
Night Action deadline is at 7:00 PM BGG
---------------------

INVERTED TALLY

Voter - # - Voted on

janiera - 1 - Amekins(2)
PaperF - 1 - ortho_(1)

Not Voting: AlwaysIdle, Amekins, BerenCamlost, BlackSheep, FaleohFang, Floofies, Jimryan1, ortho_, Scarlett_O, stonecutter129, Vanderscamp
Princess Sparklefists
Hug [vote Ame]
Princess Sparklefists

FaleohFang wrote:

Hug [vote Ame]


Hrm. I missed Ame's vote from Jan. [vote Jan] for stealing my vote choice!
Paper Luis

janiera wrote:

[vote Amekins], since I never trust her in any game...
Are you good, Lady?
Princess Sparklefists
I'm...
Cassandra Project
VOTE TALLY

Player (13/15) - # - Voted by

ortho_ - 1 - PaperF(1)
Amekins - 1 - janiera(2), FaleohFang(3)
janiera - 1 - FaleohFang(4)

Not Voting: AlwaysIdle, Amekins, BerenCamlost, BlackSheep, Floofies, Jimryan1, ortho_, Scarlett_O, stonecutter129, Vanderscamp


Nightfall votes are denoted by an '*' after the player's name.

Your Moderator has chosen to use the Longest Held Last Vote method for a tiebreaker - This is just for Cassandra system, and there may be a different tiebreaker specified by your Moderator in the ruleset.

Lynch time is at 6:00 PM BGG
Night Action deadline is at 7:00 PM BGG
---------------------

INVERTED TALLY

Voter - # - Voted on

FaleohFang - 2 - Amekins(3) , janiera(4)
janiera - 1 - Amekins(2)
PaperF - 1 - ortho_(1)

Not Voting: AlwaysIdle, Amekins, BerenCamlost, BlackSheep, Floofies, Jimryan1, ortho_, Scarlett_O, stonecutter129, Vanderscamp
Jim Ryan
[vote Paper]
for Rainbow Wolves

Is it you and ortho again?
Paper Luis

jimryan1 wrote:

[vote Paper]
for Rainbow Wolves

Is it you and ortho again?
Glad to see you here too, Jim! And na, Im good, and ready to kill the 3 wolves who have just killed two of us!! angry
Jim Ryan
Yeah, I'm pretty upset by that Lemon kill, we were finally going to be in a game as the same alignment!
Cassandra Project
VOTE TALLY

Player (13/15) - # - Voted by

ortho_ - 1 - PaperF(1)
Amekins - 1 - janiera(2), FaleohFang(3)
janiera - 1 - FaleohFang(4)
PaperF - 1 - Jimryan1(5)

Not Voting: AlwaysIdle, Amekins, BerenCamlost, BlackSheep, Floofies, ortho_, Scarlett_O, stonecutter129, Vanderscamp


Nightfall votes are denoted by an '*' after the player's name.

Your Moderator has chosen to use the Longest Held Last Vote method for a tiebreaker - This is just for Cassandra system, and there may be a different tiebreaker specified by your Moderator in the ruleset.

Lynch time is at 6:00 PM BGG
Night Action deadline is at 7:00 PM BGG
---------------------

INVERTED TALLY

Voter - # - Voted on

FaleohFang - 2 - Amekins(3) , janiera(4)
janiera - 1 - Amekins(2)
Jimryan1 - 1 - PaperF(5)
PaperF - 1 - ortho_(1)

Not Voting: AlwaysIdle, Amekins, BerenCamlost, BlackSheep, Floofies, ortho_, Scarlett_O, stonecutter129, Vanderscamp
Alabaster

PaperF wrote:

[vote ortho] THAT WAS YOU!!!


PaperF wrote:

First thought: The wolves killed random people in order to prevent people from deciphering who's good and who's evil. Sad to see lemon and jerival go. Now, GET IN HERE PEOPLE!


Paper Luis

Vanderscamp wrote:

PaperF wrote:

[vote ortho] THAT WAS YOU!!!


PaperF wrote:

First thought: The wolves killed random people in order to prevent people from deciphering who's good and who's evil. Sad to see lemon and jerival go. Now, GET IN HERE PEOPLE!


I was obviously joking. Are you the typical evil Vanders looking excuses to mislynch? Because if that's the case, you're my number 1 target today.
Paper Luis

PaperF wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

PaperF wrote:

[vote ortho] THAT WAS YOU!!!


PaperF wrote:

First thought: The wolves killed random people in order to prevent people from deciphering who's good and who's evil. Sad to see lemon and jerival go. Now, GET IN HERE PEOPLE!


I was obviously joking. Are you the typical evil Vanders looking excuses to mislynch? Because if that's the case, you're my number 1 target today.
And by excuses, I mean simple details!
Alabaster

PaperF wrote:

jimryan1 wrote:

[vote Paper]
for Rainbow Wolves

Is it you and ortho again?
Glad to see you here too, Jim! And na, Im good, and ready to kill the 3 wolves who have just killed two of us!! angry


I'm not quite ready to kill them, I'm pretty happy they didn't kill me!
Alabaster

PaperF wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

PaperF wrote:

[vote ortho] THAT WAS YOU!!!


PaperF wrote:

First thought: The wolves killed random people in order to prevent people from deciphering who's good and who's evil. Sad to see lemon and jerival go. Now, GET IN HERE PEOPLE!


I was obviously joking. Are you the typical evil Vanders looking excuses to mislynch? Because if that's the case, you're my number 1 target today.


I'm not sure which is the joke, though.

If I say no, does that mean I'm not your number 1?
Amy O'Neal

PaperF wrote:

janiera wrote:

[vote Amekins], since I never trust her in any game...
Are you good, Lady?


Definitely good this game...
Paper Luis

Vanderscamp wrote:

PaperF wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

PaperF wrote:

[vote ortho] THAT WAS YOU!!!


PaperF wrote:

First thought: The wolves killed random people in order to prevent people from deciphering who's good and who's evil. Sad to see lemon and jerival go. Now, GET IN HERE PEOPLE!


I was obviously joking. Are you the typical evil Vanders looking excuses to mislynch? Because if that's the case, you're my number 1 target today.


I'm not sure which is the joke, though.

If I say no, does that mean I'm not your number 1?
Yup. devil The first one is the joke.
Paper Luis

janiera wrote:

PaperF wrote:

janiera wrote:

[vote Amekins], since I never trust her in any game...
Are you good, Lady?


Definitely good this game...
I doubt it.
Paper Luis

Vanderscamp wrote:

PaperF wrote:

jimryan1 wrote:

[vote Paper]
for Rainbow Wolves

Is it you and ortho again?
Glad to see you here too, Jim! And na, Im good, and ready to kill the 3 wolves who have just killed two of us!! angry


I'm not quite ready to kill them, I'm pretty happy they didn't kill me!
Got you. laugh
Jim Ryan

janiera wrote:

PaperF wrote:

janiera wrote:

[vote Amekins], since I never trust her in any game...
Are you good, Lady?


Definitely good this game...


If I was handing out a second meta vote, it would be for you Jan, simply for your avatar! My wife begged me to go up that lighthouse on a sweltering day in Aug a few years ago, and I don't know how I lived to regret it. That sucked.

And also cuz... Hatteras is nice, but Okracoke for the win! devil
The Floof Meister
Hi everyone!

[vote Jan] It's been a while! Glad to see you're still playing.
Stone
Someone mentioned a rainbows game, and it just made me think about the other rainbows game.

[vote paper]
Cassandra Project
VOTE TALLY

Player (13/15) - # - Voted by

janiera - 2 - FaleohFang(4), Floofies(6)
PaperF - 2 - Jimryan1(5), stonecutter129(7)
ortho_ - 1 - PaperF(1)
Amekins - 1 - janiera(2), FaleohFang(3)

Not Voting: AlwaysIdle, Amekins, BerenCamlost, BlackSheep, ortho_, Scarlett_O, Vanderscamp


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INVERTED TALLY

Voter - # - Voted on

FaleohFang - 2 - Amekins(3) , janiera(4)
Floofies - 1 - janiera(6)
janiera - 1 - Amekins(2)
Jimryan1 - 1 - PaperF(5)
PaperF - 1 - ortho_(1)
stonecutter129 - 1 - PaperF(7)

Not Voting: AlwaysIdle, Amekins, BerenCamlost, BlackSheep, ortho_, Scarlett_O, Vanderscamp
Paper Luis

stonecutter129 wrote:

Someone mentioned a rainbows game, and it just made me think about the other rainbows game.

[vote paper]
Are you evil? Why do you have to follow the vote? Ortho was evil too, and you're piling onto me? Interesting choice!
Paper Luis
[vote stone]
Alabaster
I also think it's pretty unlikely that wolves killed randomly.
Paper Luis

Vanderscamp wrote:

I also think it's pretty unlikely that wolves killed randomly.
Why?
Jim Ryan

PaperF wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

I also think it's pretty unlikely that wolves killed randomly.
Why?


Because Vanders killed them for very specific reasons!
Stone

Vanderscamp wrote:

I also think it's pretty unlikely that wolves killed randomly.


I don't think Jerival has enough experience to be a N0 NK. Just me though.
Alabaster

PaperF wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

I also think it's pretty unlikely that wolves killed randomly.
Why?


Because I don't think it's likely that three wolves would be that afraid that the kills would point to them, instead of just choosing a kill or two that they think wouldn't point to them.
Alabaster

jimryan1 wrote:

PaperF wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

I also think it's pretty unlikely that wolves killed randomly.
Why?


Because Vanders killed them for very specific reasons!


I wanted to be a wolf, but alas...
Alabaster

stonecutter129 wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

I also think it's pretty unlikely that wolves killed randomly.


I don't think Jerival has enough experience to be a N0 NK. Just me though.


Well, apparently he does

Also, iirc someone in witch hunt said that Jerival was a really strong player, whoever that was probably has a pretty decent chance of having NKed him.
Alabaster
It looks like it a tfang who said that, so that doesn't really help.
Hi! I am SUPER glad we found those extra two people to sign up, just to kill them immediately!

[vote Royal]
Hey, everyone!

PaperF is metacleared as a wolf, because I think he would kill me.

[vote vander], because that's usually a good move!
Amekins, are you friends with jerival IRL or from other games on BGG?
Alabaster

Amekins wrote:

Hi! I am SUPER glad we found those extra two people to sign up, just to kill them immediately!

[vote Royal]


Wait, they were the last two people to sign up??
Alabaster

ortho_ wrote:

Hey, everyone!

PaperF is metacleared as a wolf, because I think he would kill me.

[vote vander], because that's usually a good move!


Oh, no!
[vote Ortho]

I don't believe it's ever a good move.

ortho_ wrote:

Amekins, are you friends with jerival IRL or from other games on BGG?


Other games on here, he played the first one a week or two ago and killed it. Hes impressive.

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Hi! I am SUPER glad we found those extra two people to sign up, just to kill them immediately!

[vote Royal]


Wait, they were the last two people to sign up??


No I just meant in general-2, I have no clue who was last.
Paper Luis
Amekins is evil.
Paper Luis

Vanderscamp wrote:

PaperF wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

I also think it's pretty unlikely that wolves killed randomly.
Why?


Because I don't think it's likely that three wolves would be that afraid that the kills would point to them, instead of just choosing a kill or two that they think wouldn't point to them.
I think at least ortho or you would have been the one of the kills, which is why I dont think it was chosen, unless you guys are wolves. But yeah, I like what Amekims just found out.

PaperF wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

PaperF wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

I also think it's pretty unlikely that wolves killed randomly.
Why?


Because I don't think it's likely that three wolves would be that afraid that the kills would point to them, instead of just choosing a kill or two that they think wouldn't point to them.
I think at least ortho or you would have been the one of the kills, which is why I dont think it was chosen, unless you guys are wolves. But yeah, I like what Amekims just found out.


Yeah, I would have totally killed vander.
Lisa
Hey everyone

I can't believe the only other newish person got nked :/

[vote stone] for being evil in the last game we played together.
Alabaster
[vote Amekins]

It sounds to me that between saying that they're good players, and saying that they were some of the last to sign up (which I didn't even think of) you have just explained why you killed them...
Stone

AlwaysIdle wrote:

Hey everyone

I can't believe the only other newish person got nked :/

[vote stone] for being evil in the last game we played together.


Pfft, I was only half evil.

Vanderscamp wrote:

[vote Amekins]

It sounds to me that between saying that they're good players, and saying that they were some of the last to sign up (which I didn't even think of) you have just explained why you killed them...


Vander is sounding OK. FOR NOW. [vote scarlett]. For 2 reasons.

Vanderscamp wrote:

[vote Amekins]

It sounds to me that between saying that they're good players, and saying that they were some of the last to sign up (which I didn't even think of) you have just explained why you killed them...


What ? You lost me... I made a joke about waiting forever to get two last players then the mod letting two people die N0. How does me pointing that out even remotely make me seem evil ....
Paper Luis

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

[vote Amekins]

It sounds to me that between saying that they're good players, and saying that they were some of the last to sign up (which I didn't even think of) you have just explained why you killed them...


Vander is sounding OK. FOR NOW. [vote scarlett]. For 2 reasons.
I honestly think Vanders is evil, and I'm not joking.
Paper Luis

stonecutter129 wrote:

AlwaysIdle wrote:

Hey everyone

I can't believe the only other newish person got nked :/

[vote stone] for being evil in the last game we played together.


Pfft, I was only half evil.
TRAITOR!!!

PaperF wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

[vote Amekins]

It sounds to me that between saying that they're good players, and saying that they were some of the last to sign up (which I didn't even think of) you have just explained why you killed them...


Vander is sounding OK. FOR NOW. [vote scarlett]. For 2 reasons.
I honestly think Vanders is evil, and I'm not joking.


You think he's pushing mislynches in the usual spots?
Lisa

PaperF wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:

AlwaysIdle wrote:

Hey everyone

I can't believe the only other newish person got nked :/

[vote stone] for being evil in the last game we played together.


Pfft, I was only half evil.
TRAITOR!!!


Cassandra Project
VOTE TALLY

Player (13/15) - # - Voted by

janiera - 2 - FaleohFang(4), Floofies(6)
PaperF - 2 - Jimryan1(5), stonecutter129(7)
stonecutter129 - 2 - PaperF(8), AlwaysIdle(11)
Amekins - 2 - janiera(2), FaleohFang(3) , Vanderscamp(12)
Scarlett_O - 1 - ortho_(13)
Vanderscamp - 0 - ortho_(9)
ortho_ - 0 - PaperF(1) , Vanderscamp(10)

Not Voting: Amekins, BerenCamlost, BlackSheep, Scarlett_O


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INVERTED TALLY

Voter - # - Voted on

AlwaysIdle - 1 - stonecutter129(11)
FaleohFang - 2 - Amekins(3) , janiera(4)
Floofies - 1 - janiera(6)
janiera - 1 - Amekins(2)
Jimryan1 - 1 - PaperF(5)
ortho_ - 2 - Vanderscamp(9) , Scarlett_O(13)
PaperF - 2 - ortho_(1) , stonecutter129(8)
stonecutter129 - 1 - PaperF(7)
Vanderscamp - 2 - ortho_(10) , Amekins(12)

Not Voting: Amekins, BerenCamlost, BlackSheep, Scarlett_O
Stone

PaperF wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:

AlwaysIdle wrote:

Hey everyone

I can't believe the only other newish person got nked :/

[vote stone] for being evil in the last game we played together.


Pfft, I was only half evil.
TRAITOR!!!


You were full evil. You were the traitor!
Alabaster

stonecutter129 wrote:

AlwaysIdle wrote:

Hey everyone

I can't believe the only other newish person got nked :/

[vote stone] for being evil in the last game we played together.


Pfft, I was only half evil.


How can you be half evil?
Alabaster

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

[vote Amekins]

It sounds to me that between saying that they're good players, and saying that they were some of the last to sign up (which I didn't even think of) you have just explained why you killed them...


What ? You lost me... I made a joke about waiting forever to get two last players then the mod letting two people die N0. How does me pointing that out even remotely make me seem evil ....


Because I didn't even think of the fact that the two people who died were two of the people who joined last.
I think there's a decent chance you killed them for that reason, and I think it's less likely that you would be thinking about that kind of stuff if you weren't involved in making the NKs.
Alabaster

PaperF wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

[vote Amekins]

It sounds to me that between saying that they're good players, and saying that they were some of the last to sign up (which I didn't even think of) you have just explained why you killed them...


Vander is sounding OK. FOR NOW. [vote scarlett]. For 2 reasons.
I honestly think Vanders is evil, and I'm not joking.


I thought you said you didn't like Amy?
Alabaster

ortho_ wrote:

PaperF wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

[vote Amekins]

It sounds to me that between saying that they're good players, and saying that they were some of the last to sign up (which I didn't even think of) you have just explained why you killed them...


Vander is sounding OK. FOR NOW. [vote scarlett]. For 2 reasons.
I honestly think Vanders is evil, and I'm not joking.


You think he's pushing mislynches in the usual spots?


You don't think Amy is a usual spot?
Stone

Vanderscamp wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:

AlwaysIdle wrote:

Hey everyone

I can't believe the only other newish person got nked :/

[vote stone] for being evil in the last game we played together.


Pfft, I was only half evil.


How can you be half evil?


With a good attitude

Vanderscamp wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

PaperF wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

[vote Amekins]

It sounds to me that between saying that they're good players, and saying that they were some of the last to sign up (which I didn't even think of) you have just explained why you killed them...


Vander is sounding OK. FOR NOW. [vote scarlett]. For 2 reasons.
I honestly think Vanders is evil, and I'm not joking.


You think he's pushing mislynches in the usual spots?


You don't think Amy is a usual spot?


Not sure what you mean here. I think Amekins is a usual spot.
Alabaster

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

PaperF wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

[vote Amekins]

It sounds to me that between saying that they're good players, and saying that they were some of the last to sign up (which I didn't even think of) you have just explained why you killed them...


Vander is sounding OK. FOR NOW. [vote scarlett]. For 2 reasons.
I honestly think Vanders is evil, and I'm not joking.


You think he's pushing mislynches in the usual spots?


You don't think Amy is a usual spot?


Not sure what you mean here. I think Amekins is a usual spot.


Oh..

So you think I'm pushing mislynches in the usual spots but I'm good anyway?
Why did you ask Paper that?

Vanderscamp wrote:


Oh..

So you think I'm pushing mislynches in the usual spots but I'm good anyway?
Why did you ask Paper that?


My snap impression was that you might be good, or at least you didn't seem evil. PaperF's response was 'no, he's evil'. I wanted to understand where he was coming from. That was my best guess for why he thought you were evil. I guess paperF will weight in.
Paper Luis

ortho_ wrote:

PaperF wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

[vote Amekins]

It sounds to me that between saying that they're good players, and saying that they were some of the last to sign up (which I didn't even think of) you have just explained why you killed them...


Vander is sounding OK. FOR NOW. [vote scarlett]. For 2 reasons.
I honestly think Vanders is evil, and I'm not joking.


You think he's pushing mislynches in the usual spots?
I don't like the excuse he's using to vote Ame. Neither I liked the reasons he 's using to believe that the kills were chosen. As evil, I think he would want to use that idea to plant it as a seed in the game and people will want to lynch the people that possibly nightkilled lemon and jerival. Yah, he hasn't gone into too much thought about the kills, but if did, I would suspect him more.
Paper Luis

Vanderscamp wrote:

PaperF wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

[vote Amekins]

It sounds to me that between saying that they're good players, and saying that they were some of the last to sign up (which I didn't even think of) you have just explained why you killed them...


Vander is sounding OK. FOR NOW. [vote scarlett]. For 2 reasons.
I honestly think Vanders is evil, and I'm not joking.


I thought you said you didn't like Amy?
She avoided my post. She could be. But it doesn't mean I believe she's evil.
Paper Luis

stonecutter129 wrote:

PaperF wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:

AlwaysIdle wrote:

Hey everyone

I can't believe the only other newish person got nked :/

[vote stone] for being evil in the last game we played together.


Pfft, I was only half evil.
TRAITOR!!!


You were full evil. You were the traitor!
I was purely evil and massacred the village. BUT YOU!!
Paper Luis

PaperF wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:

Someone mentioned a rainbows game, and it just made me think about the other rainbows game.

[vote paper]
Are you evil? Why do you have to follow the vote? Ortho was evil too, and you're piling onto me? Interesting choice!
Stone, could you clarify this? Why?
Alabaster

PaperF wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

PaperF wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

[vote Amekins]

It sounds to me that between saying that they're good players, and saying that they were some of the last to sign up (which I didn't even think of) you have just explained why you killed them...


Vander is sounding OK. FOR NOW. [vote scarlett]. For 2 reasons.
I honestly think Vanders is evil, and I'm not joking.


You think he's pushing mislynches in the usual spots?
I don't like the excuse he's using to vote Ame. Neither I liked the reasons he 's using to believe that the kills were chosen. As evil, I think he would want to use that idea to plant it as a seed in the game and people will want to lynch the people that possibly nightkilled lemon and jerival. Yah, he hasn't gone into too much thought about the kills, but if did, I would suspect him more.


I believe thay they were chosen because it seems obvious that wolves would choose them, and I don't think there's enough reason to think that they weren't.

Why do you think Amy's evil?
Amy O'Neal

Vanderscamp wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

PaperF wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

[vote Amekins]

It sounds to me that between saying that they're good players, and saying that they were some of the last to sign up (which I didn't even think of) you have just explained why you killed them...


Vander is sounding OK. FOR NOW. [vote scarlett]. For 2 reasons.
I honestly think Vanders is evil, and I'm not joking.


You think he's pushing mislynches in the usual spots?


You don't think Amy is a usual spot?


Please, if you're referring to Amekins, write Ame... My b real name is also Amy and you people using it confuses me sometimes...
Alabaster

PaperF wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

PaperF wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

[vote Amekins]

It sounds to me that between saying that they're good players, and saying that they were some of the last to sign up (which I didn't even think of) you have just explained why you killed them...


Vander is sounding OK. FOR NOW. [vote scarlett]. For 2 reasons.
I honestly think Vanders is evil, and I'm not joking.


I thought you said you didn't like Amy?
She avoided my post. She could be. But it doesn't mean I believe she's evil.


Oh
Alabaster

janiera wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

PaperF wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

[vote Amekins]

It sounds to me that between saying that they're good players, and saying that they were some of the last to sign up (which I didn't even think of) you have just explained why you killed them...


Vander is sounding OK. FOR NOW. [vote scarlett]. For 2 reasons.
I honestly think Vanders is evil, and I'm not joking.


You think he's pushing mislynches in the usual spots?


You don't think Amy is a usual spot?


Please, if you're referring to Amekins, write Ame... My b real name is also Amy and you people using it confuses me sometimes...


Sure.

Any reads?
Patrick Hill
Hello all!

[Vote Paper]

He's always evil!
Alabaster

BerenCamlost wrote:

Hello all!

[Vote Paper]

He's always evil!


I kinda don't think he is this game actually.
Cassandra Project
VOTE TALLY

Player (13/15) - # - Voted by

PaperF - 3 - Jimryan1(5), stonecutter129(7), BerenCamlost(14)
janiera - 2 - FaleohFang(4), Floofies(6)
stonecutter129 - 2 - PaperF(8), AlwaysIdle(11)
Amekins - 2 - janiera(2), FaleohFang(3) , Vanderscamp(12)
Scarlett_O - 1 - ortho_(13)
Vanderscamp - 0 - ortho_(9)
ortho_ - 0 - PaperF(1) , Vanderscamp(10)

Not Voting: Amekins, BlackSheep, Scarlett_O


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INVERTED TALLY

Voter - # - Voted on

AlwaysIdle - 1 - stonecutter129(11)
BerenCamlost - 1 - PaperF(14)
FaleohFang - 2 - Amekins(3) , janiera(4)
Floofies - 1 - janiera(6)
janiera - 1 - Amekins(2)
Jimryan1 - 1 - PaperF(5)
ortho_ - 2 - Vanderscamp(9) , Scarlett_O(13)
PaperF - 2 - ortho_(1) , stonecutter129(8)
stonecutter129 - 1 - PaperF(7)
Vanderscamp - 2 - ortho_(10) , Amekins(12)

Not Voting: Amekins, BlackSheep, Scarlett_O
Amy O'Neal

Vanderscamp wrote:

janiera wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

PaperF wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

[vote Amekins]

It sounds to me that between saying that they're good players, and saying that they were some of the last to sign up (which I didn't even think of) you have just explained why you killed them...


Vander is sounding OK. FOR NOW. [vote scarlett]. For 2 reasons.
I honestly think Vanders is evil, and I'm not joking.


You think he's pushing mislynches in the usual spots?


You don't think Amy is a usual spot?


Please, if you're referring to Amekins, write Ame... My b real name is also Amy and you people using it confuses me sometimes...


Sure.

Any reads?


Not yet... A little too early and a lot of people haven't talked yet...
Amy O'Neal

Vanderscamp wrote:

BerenCamlost wrote:

Hello all!

[Vote Paper]

He's always evil!


I kinda don't think he is this game actually.


And I'll take that back, as I'm agreeing with you on this point...
Greg Wilson

FaleohFang wrote:

FaleohFang wrote:

Hug [vote Ame]


Hrm. I missed Ame's vote from Jan. [vote Jan] for stealing my vote choice!


This comes across as either distancing from Jan or not wanting to be the second vote on Ame. Either way, enough of a ping to [vote FaleohFang].
Cassandra Project
VOTE TALLY

Player (13/15) - # - Voted by

PaperF - 3 - Jimryan1(5), stonecutter129(7), BerenCamlost(14)
janiera - 2 - FaleohFang(4), Floofies(6)
stonecutter129 - 2 - PaperF(8), AlwaysIdle(11)
Amekins - 2 - janiera(2), FaleohFang(3) , Vanderscamp(12)
Scarlett_O - 1 - ortho_(13)
FaleohFang - 1 - BlackSheep(15)
Vanderscamp - 0 - ortho_(9)
ortho_ - 0 - PaperF(1) , Vanderscamp(10)

Not Voting: Amekins, Scarlett_O


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INVERTED TALLY

Voter - # - Voted on

AlwaysIdle - 1 - stonecutter129(11)
BerenCamlost - 1 - PaperF(14)
BlackSheep - 1 - FaleohFang(15)
FaleohFang - 2 - Amekins(3) , janiera(4)
Floofies - 1 - janiera(6)
janiera - 1 - Amekins(2)
Jimryan1 - 1 - PaperF(5)
ortho_ - 2 - Vanderscamp(9) , Scarlett_O(13)
PaperF - 2 - ortho_(1) , stonecutter129(8)
stonecutter129 - 1 - PaperF(7)
Vanderscamp - 2 - ortho_(10) , Amekins(12)

Not Voting: Amekins, Scarlett_O
Greg Wilson

ortho_ wrote:

PaperF is metacleared as a wolf, because I think he would kill me.


Reminds me of the deal Beo and jmilum used to have, where if one was evil they'd kill the other N1 so that by D2 they knew they were on the same side.
Alabaster

BlackSheep wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

PaperF is metacleared as a wolf, because I think he would kill me.


Reminds me of the deal Beo and jmilum used to have, where if one was evil they'd kill the other N1 so that by D2 they knew they were on the same side.


That sounds like such a bad deal...

Did each of them just autolose every time they were evil?

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

[vote Amekins]

It sounds to me that between saying that they're good players, and saying that they were some of the last to sign up (which I didn't even think of) you have just explained why you killed them...


What ? You lost me... I made a joke about waiting forever to get two last players then the mod letting two people die N0. How does me pointing that out even remotely make me seem evil ....


Because I didn't even think of the fact that the two people who died were two of the people who joined last.
I think there's a decent chance you killed them for that reason, and I think it's less likely that you would be thinking about that kind of stuff if you weren't involved in making the NKs.


I have no idea who the last two to join were and I didn't say that. You're making stuff up ...
Alabaster

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

[vote Amekins]

It sounds to me that between saying that they're good players, and saying that they were some of the last to sign up (which I didn't even think of) you have just explained why you killed them...


What ? You lost me... I made a joke about waiting forever to get two last players then the mod letting two people die N0. How does me pointing that out even remotely make me seem evil ....


Because I didn't even think of the fact that the two people who died were two of the people who joined last.
I think there's a decent chance you killed them for that reason, and I think it's less likely that you would be thinking about that kind of stuff if you weren't involved in making the NKs.


I have no idea who the last two to join were and I didn't say that. You're making stuff up ...


I said that you said that they were two of the last to sign up.
You said that, right?

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

[vote Amekins]

It sounds to me that between saying that they're good players, and saying that they were some of the last to sign up (which I didn't even think of) you have just explained why you killed them...


What ? You lost me... I made a joke about waiting forever to get two last players then the mod letting two people die N0. How does me pointing that out even remotely make me seem evil ....


Because I didn't even think of the fact that the two people who died were two of the people who joined last.
I think there's a decent chance you killed them for that reason, and I think it's less likely that you would be thinking about that kind of stuff if you weren't involved in making the NKs.


I have no idea who the last two to join were and I didn't say that. You're making stuff up ...


I said that you said that they were two of the last to sign up.
You said that, right?


No. I did not. I have no clue when they signed up. What I said was that we WAITED for two more to sign up then the mod killed two off. Once again you focus and tunnel on the weirdest shit. It was a joke to begin with. It's so hard not to think you're evil when you do this.

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

[vote Amekins]

It sounds to me that between saying that they're good players, and saying that they were some of the last to sign up (which I didn't even think of) you have just explained why you killed them...


What ? You lost me... I made a joke about waiting forever to get two last players then the mod letting two people die N0. How does me pointing that out even remotely make me seem evil ....


Because I didn't even think of the fact that the two people who died were two of the people who joined last.
I think there's a decent chance you killed them for that reason, and I think it's less likely that you would be thinking about that kind of stuff if you weren't involved in making the NKs.


I have no idea who the last two to join were and I didn't say that. You're making stuff up ...


I said that you said that they were two of the last to sign up.
You said that, right?

And if they were the final two to sign up, how does that point to me being a wolf anyway ? That makes no sense.
Alabaster

Amekins wrote:

Hi! I am SUPER glad we found those extra two people to sign up, just to kill them immediately!

[vote Royal]

??
Alabaster

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Hi! I am SUPER glad we found those extra two people to sign up, just to kill them immediately!

[vote Royal]

??


I got the impression from this that you were talking about them as the "extra two people".

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Hi! I am SUPER glad we found those extra two people to sign up, just to kill them immediately!

[vote Royal]

??


Yep. Exactly... How are you reading this as the people who died? We got TWO extra PEOPLE and TWO people died night 0. HELLO! LOL

Vanderscamp wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Hi! I am SUPER glad we found those extra two people to sign up, just to kill them immediately!

[vote Royal]

??


I got the impression from this that you were talking about them as the "extra two people".


yes, I sit there and pay that much attention to who signed up for the game last. I dont even know who the 15 are that are in THIS game. I just know youre here because you are hassling me, and I know Blacksheep is here because I dont play with him often. And Jan because her name is also Amy. Oh and I know Ortho is here because I always pay attention to Ortho. Everyone else. No idea yet. We JUST started.

PaperF wrote:

First thought: The wolves killed random people in order to prevent people from deciphering who's good and who's evil. Sad to see lemon and jerival go. Now, GET IN HERE PEOPLE!


Do you think that because of who was killed or just because?

stonecutter129 wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

I also think it's pretty unlikely that wolves killed randomly.


I don't think Jerival has enough experience to be a N0 NK. Just me though.


I was wondering about this...I can see someone killing lemon if she can read them well, but I wasn't sure about Jerival's experience with people here. I don't think I've ever played with him.

PaperF wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

PaperF wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

I also think it's pretty unlikely that wolves killed randomly.
Why?


Because I don't think it's likely that three wolves would be that afraid that the kills would point to them, instead of just choosing a kill or two that they think wouldn't point to them.
I think at least ortho or you would have been the one of the kills, which is why I dont think it was chosen, unless you guys are wolves. But yeah, I like what Amekims just found out.


Why do you think they would be the kills?

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

[vote Amekins]

It sounds to me that between saying that they're good players, and saying that they were some of the last to sign up (which I didn't even think of) you have just explained why you killed them...


Vander is sounding OK. FOR NOW. [vote scarlett]. For 2 reasons.


What are the reasons?
Stone

PaperF wrote:

PaperF wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:

Someone mentioned a rainbows game, and it just made me think about the other rainbows game.

[vote paper]
Are you evil? Why do you have to follow the vote? Ortho was evil too, and you're piling onto me? Interesting choice!
Stone, could you clarify this? Why?


It's a meta vote. You picked wrong in the final 3 in rainbows. I wasn't in the last rainbows game, it was the one before with me you and Chrono I was referencing

ortho_ wrote:

PaperF wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

[vote Amekins]

It sounds to me that between saying that they're good players, and saying that they were some of the last to sign up (which I didn't even think of) you have just explained why you killed them...


Vander is sounding OK. FOR NOW. [vote scarlett]. For 2 reasons.
I honestly think Vanders is evil, and I'm not joking.


You think he's pushing mislynches in the usual spots?


Objection! Leading the witness!

Vanderscamp wrote:

PaperF wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

PaperF wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

[vote Amekins]

It sounds to me that between saying that they're good players, and saying that they were some of the last to sign up (which I didn't even think of) you have just explained why you killed them...


Vander is sounding OK. FOR NOW. [vote scarlett]. For 2 reasons.
I honestly think Vanders is evil, and I'm not joking.


You think he's pushing mislynches in the usual spots?
I don't like the excuse he's using to vote Ame. Neither I liked the reasons he 's using to believe that the kills were chosen. As evil, I think he would want to use that idea to plant it as a seed in the game and people will want to lynch the people that possibly nightkilled lemon and jerival. Yah, he hasn't gone into too much thought about the kills, but if did, I would suspect him more.


I believe thay they were chosen because it seems obvious that wolves would choose them, and I don't think there's enough reason to think that they weren't.

Why do you think Amy's evil?


Why is it obvious that the wolves would choose them? Besides that they did, lol.

BlackSheep wrote:

FaleohFang wrote:

FaleohFang wrote:

Hug [vote Ame]


Hrm. I missed Ame's vote from Jan. [vote Jan] for stealing my vote choice!


This comes across as either distancing from Jan or not wanting to be the second vote on Ame. Either way, enough of a ping to [vote FaleohFang].


What's wrong with being the second vote?

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

[vote Amekins]

It sounds to me that between saying that they're good players, and saying that they were some of the last to sign up (which I didn't even think of) you have just explained why you killed them...


What ? You lost me... I made a joke about waiting forever to get two last players then the mod letting two people die N0. How does me pointing that out even remotely make me seem evil ....


Because I didn't even think of the fact that the two people who died were two of the people who joined last.
I think there's a decent chance you killed them for that reason, and I think it's less likely that you would be thinking about that kind of stuff if you weren't involved in making the NKs.


I have no idea who the last two to join were and I didn't say that. You're making stuff up ...


I said that you said that they were two of the last to sign up.
You said that, right?


No. I did not. I have no clue when they signed up. What I said was that we WAITED for two more to sign up then the mod killed two off. Once again you focus and tunnel on the weirdest shit. It was a joke to begin with. It's so hard not to think you're evil when you do this.


The mod didn't kill them off...the wolves did. It's just the rule set. It sucks that 2 people don't get to play, but it also gives us a little bit of information going into d1, so it's kind of neat, I think.
Alabaster

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Hi! I am SUPER glad we found those extra two people to sign up, just to kill them immediately!

[vote Royal]

??


Yep. Exactly... How are you reading this as the people who died? We got TWO extra PEOPLE and TWO people died night 0. HELLO! LOL


I think it should be pretty clear why I'm reading it that way, even if it's not true...
Jim Ryan
I like Scarlett's entrance. I have no clue how to read Vanders but I like the questions he has asked so far. I also really like Paper today.
I could [vote Beren]
Hi! we've never played together before I don't think.
Stone
Yeah, I don't want Paper to have three votes right now.

[vote beren]
Stone

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

[vote Amekins]

It sounds to me that between saying that they're good players, and saying that they were some of the last to sign up (which I didn't even think of) you have just explained why you killed them...


What ? You lost me... I made a joke about waiting forever to get two last players then the mod letting two people die N0. How does me pointing that out even remotely make me seem evil ....


Because I didn't even think of the fact that the two people who died were two of the people who joined last.
I think there's a decent chance you killed them for that reason, and I think it's less likely that you would be thinking about that kind of stuff if you weren't involved in making the NKs.


I have no idea who the last two to join were and I didn't say that. You're making stuff up ...


I said that you said that they were two of the last to sign up.
You said that, right?


No. I did not. I have no clue when they signed up. What I said was that we WAITED for two more to sign up then the mod killed two off. Once again you focus and tunnel on the weirdest shit. It was a joke to begin with. It's so hard not to think you're evil when you do this.


The mod didn't kill them off...the wolves did. It's just the rule set. It sucks that 2 people don't get to play, but it also gives us a little bit of information going into d1, so it's kind of neat, I think.


I agree, but it just leads to a lot of WIFOM. Who would kill Lemon? who wouldn't kill Lemon? Why would they kill a new player in Jerival?

I think if we should investigate anyone's death it is Jerival.

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Hi! I am SUPER glad we found those extra two people to sign up, just to kill them immediately!

[vote Royal]

??


Yep. Exactly... How are you reading this as the people who died? We got TWO extra PEOPLE and TWO people died night 0. HELLO! LOL


I think it should be pretty clear why I'm reading it that way, even if it's not true...



Yeah, you are crazy, that's clear!

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

[vote Amekins]

It sounds to me that between saying that they're good players, and saying that they were some of the last to sign up (which I didn't even think of) you have just explained why you killed them...


What ? You lost me... I made a joke about waiting forever to get two last players then the mod letting two people die N0. How does me pointing that out even remotely make me seem evil ....


Because I didn't even think of the fact that the two people who died were two of the people who joined last.
I think there's a decent chance you killed them for that reason, and I think it's less likely that you would be thinking about that kind of stuff if you weren't involved in making the NKs.


I have no idea who the last two to join were and I didn't say that. You're making stuff up ...


I said that you said that they were two of the last to sign up.
You said that, right?


No. I did not. I have no clue when they signed up. What I said was that we WAITED for two more to sign up then the mod killed two off. Once again you focus and tunnel on the weirdest shit. It was a joke to begin with. It's so hard not to think you're evil when you do this.


The mod didn't kill them off...the wolves did. It's just the rule set. It sucks that 2 people don't get to play, but it also gives us a little bit of information going into d1, so it's kind of neat, I think.


I dont "literally " mean the MOD killed them off. Geeze. Whats w you people. One hilarious joke and you're all like "OMG"

I dont care that two people died, I dont care what order they signed up, Sure, it is neat, it's whatever. But I had nothing to do with it. I just saw a joke and made it.
Alabaster

Scarlett_O wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

PaperF wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

PaperF wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

[vote Amekins]

It sounds to me that between saying that they're good players, and saying that they were some of the last to sign up (which I didn't even think of) you have just explained why you killed them...


Vander is sounding OK. FOR NOW. [vote scarlett]. For 2 reasons.
I honestly think Vanders is evil, and I'm not joking.


You think he's pushing mislynches in the usual spots?
I don't like the excuse he's using to vote Ame. Neither I liked the reasons he 's using to believe that the kills were chosen. As evil, I think he would want to use that idea to plant it as a seed in the game and people will want to lynch the people that possibly nightkilled lemon and jerival. Yah, he hasn't gone into too much thought about the kills, but if did, I would suspect him more.


I believe thay they were chosen because it seems obvious that wolves would choose them, and I don't think there's enough reason to think that they weren't.

Why do you think Amy's evil?


Why is it obvious that the wolves would choose them? Besides that they did, lol.


Because choosing the kills is the default, and there's no good reason to randomise them.
Like, the same way I think that any night kills in any game are chosen.

Vanderscamp wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

PaperF wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

PaperF wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

[vote Amekins]

It sounds to me that between saying that they're good players, and saying that they were some of the last to sign up (which I didn't even think of) you have just explained why you killed them...


Vander is sounding OK. FOR NOW. [vote scarlett]. For 2 reasons.
I honestly think Vanders is evil, and I'm not joking.


You think he's pushing mislynches in the usual spots?
I don't like the excuse he's using to vote Ame. Neither I liked the reasons he 's using to believe that the kills were chosen. As evil, I think he would want to use that idea to plant it as a seed in the game and people will want to lynch the people that possibly nightkilled lemon and jerival. Yah, he hasn't gone into too much thought about the kills, but if did, I would suspect him more.


I believe thay they were chosen because it seems obvious that wolves would choose them, and I don't think there's enough reason to think that they weren't.

Why do you think Amy's evil?


Why is it obvious that the wolves would choose them? Besides that they did, lol.


Because choosing the kills is the default, and there's no good reason to randomise them.
Like, the same way I think that any night kills in any game are chosen.


Ohhh, I'm sorry, I thought you meant choose "them" as in choose lemon and jerival in particular.
Stone
So, the two games I played with Jerival recently, he was evil both times.

In Single Serving 28, we had a conversation in dead chat about how impressive Jerival looked. NoLemon posted some impressive posts about him, and a lot of people in dead chat at the time complimented him. He played a really good game.

In Witch Hunt 2, he kind of got shafted over by some bad decisions and some bad luck as well. Paper was knocked out early, and I don't think Apple did any favors fake clearing him. It wasn't his best game. I just had a game like that recently, and there wasn't a ton to be done about it, and I get it.

I think the people in Single Serving 28 had a rather high opinion of Jerival, and I don't think people in Witch Hunt 2, would have the same opinion of a newbie.

People in Single Serving 28 in this game:
AlwaysIdle,
Amekins
Beren
NoLemon modded (obvious good)
Paper
Stone
Vanderscamp

People in Witch Hunt 2 with Jerival:
Beren
Faleoh
Paper
Stone
Vanderscamp

People in only Single Serving with Jerival:
AlwaysIdle
Amekins

People only in Witch Hunt 2 with Jerival:

Faleoh

So long story short, I think either AlwaysIdle or Amy could have a higher opinion of Jerival than the others. This could not mean anything, but it might mean something. Ames was in dead chat when we were talking about Jerival, AlwaysIdle lasted the game.
Alabaster

jimryan1 wrote:

I like Scarlett's entrance. I have no clue how to read Vanders but I like the questions he has asked so far. I also really like Paper today.
I could [vote Beren]
Hi! we've never played together before I don't think.


Why do you say you have no clue how to read me?
Alabaster

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Hi! I am SUPER glad we found those extra two people to sign up, just to kill them immediately!

[vote Royal]

??


Yep. Exactly... How are you reading this as the people who died? We got TWO extra PEOPLE and TWO people died night 0. HELLO! LOL


I think it should be pretty clear why I'm reading it that way, even if it's not true...



Yeah, you are crazy, that's clear!


Really?

Because this is the same way you respond to this stuff when you're evil.

You mentioned "those two extra people," then talked about killing "them" off. I remembered that Jerival and Nolemonplease were pretty late to join, so I interpreted it to mean that you were talking about killing the two most recent people to join.
Why is that ridiculous?
Jim Ryan

Vanderscamp wrote:

jimryan1 wrote:

I like Scarlett's entrance. I have no clue how to read Vanders but I like the questions he has asked so far. I also really like Paper today.
I could [vote Beren]
Hi! we've never played together before I don't think.


Why do you say you have no clue how to read me?


Because no matter how many games I've read with you in them, I just plain suck at calling your alignment. I've simply never figured out any of your "tells".
Jim Ryan

jimryan1 wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

jimryan1 wrote:

I like Scarlett's entrance. I have no clue how to read Vanders but I like the questions he has asked so far. I also really like Paper today.
I could [vote Beren]
Hi! we've never played together before I don't think.


Why do you say you have no clue how to read me?


Because no matter how many games I've read with you in them, I just plain suck at calling your alignment. I've simply never figured out any of your "tells".


It dawns on me that my first statement may have been poorly worded and that's the question you are actually asking. To clarify, in this game I like your day just as much as I like Scarlett and Paper. My statement regarding being unable to read you was a meta statement about the fact that I have a hard time convincing myself of your alignment because I think you play a very good evil game and I'm always nervous about overlooking you.

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Hi! I am SUPER glad we found those extra two people to sign up, just to kill them immediately!

[vote Royal]

??


Yep. Exactly... How are you reading this as the people who died? We got TWO extra PEOPLE and TWO people died night 0. HELLO! LOL


I think it should be pretty clear why I'm reading it that way, even if it's not true...



Yeah, you are crazy, that's clear!


Really?

Because this is the same way you respond to this stuff when you're evil.

You mentioned "those two extra people," then talked about killing "them" off. I remembered that Jerival and Nolemonplease were pretty late to join, so I interpreted it to mean that you were talking about killing the two most recent people to join.
Why is that ridiculous?


You do this every game.

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Hi! I am SUPER glad we found those extra two people to sign up, just to kill them immediately!

[vote Royal]

??


Yep. Exactly... How are you reading this as the people who died? We got TWO extra PEOPLE and TWO people died night 0. HELLO! LOL


I think it should be pretty clear why I'm reading it that way, even if it's not true...



Yeah, you are crazy, that's clear!


Really?

Because this is the same way you respond to this stuff when you're evil.

You mentioned "those two extra people," then talked about killing "them" off. I remembered that Jerival and Nolemonplease were pretty late to join, so I interpreted it to mean that you were talking about killing the two most recent people to join.

Why is that ridiculous?


Its very incredibly ridiculous. It was CLEARLY a joke.
Princess Sparklefists

Scarlett_O wrote:

BlackSheep wrote:

FaleohFang wrote:

FaleohFang wrote:

Hug [vote Ame]


Hrm. I missed Ame's vote from Jan. [vote Jan] for stealing my vote choice!


This comes across as either distancing from Jan or not wanting to be the second vote on Ame. Either way, enough of a ping to [vote FaleohFang].


What's wrong with being the second vote?


When meta-voting I try to pick someone with no votes yet. I dithered too long and didn't see Jan's vote on Ame before I posted.

FaleohFang wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

BlackSheep wrote:

FaleohFang wrote:

FaleohFang wrote:

Hug [vote Ame]


Hrm. I missed Ame's vote from Jan. [vote Jan] for stealing my vote choice!


This comes across as either distancing from Jan or not wanting to be the second vote on Ame. Either way, enough of a ping to [vote FaleohFang].


What's wrong with being the second vote?


When meta-voting I try to pick someone with no votes yet. I dithered too long and didn't see Jan's vote on Ame before I posted.


Thanks for explaining. I don't think I've played with you before. Hi!
Cassandra Project
VOTE TALLY

Player (13/15) - # - Voted by

janiera - 2 - FaleohFang(4), Floofies(6)
stonecutter129 - 2 - PaperF(8), AlwaysIdle(11)
Amekins - 2 - janiera(2), FaleohFang(3) , Vanderscamp(12)
BerenCamlost - 2 - Jimryan1(16), stonecutter129(17)
Scarlett_O - 1 - ortho_(13)
PaperF - 1 - Jimryan1(5) , stonecutter129(7) , BerenCamlost(14)
FaleohFang - 1 - BlackSheep(15)
Vanderscamp - 0 - ortho_(9)
ortho_ - 0 - PaperF(1) , Vanderscamp(10)

Not Voting: Amekins, Scarlett_O


Nightfall votes are denoted by an '*' after the player's name.

Your Moderator has chosen to use the Longest Held Last Vote method for a tiebreaker - This is just for Cassandra system, and there may be a different tiebreaker specified by your Moderator in the ruleset.

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INVERTED TALLY

Voter - # - Voted on

AlwaysIdle - 1 - stonecutter129(11)
BerenCamlost - 1 - PaperF(14)
BlackSheep - 1 - FaleohFang(15)
FaleohFang - 2 - Amekins(3) , janiera(4)
Floofies - 1 - janiera(6)
janiera - 1 - Amekins(2)
Jimryan1 - 2 - PaperF(5) , BerenCamlost(16)
ortho_ - 2 - Vanderscamp(9) , Scarlett_O(13)
PaperF - 2 - ortho_(1) , stonecutter129(8)
stonecutter129 - 2 - PaperF(7) , BerenCamlost(17)
Vanderscamp - 2 - ortho_(10) , Amekins(12)

Not Voting: Amekins, Scarlett_O

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Hi! I am SUPER glad we found those extra two people to sign up, just to kill them immediately!

[vote Royal]

??


Yep. Exactly... How are you reading this as the people who died? We got TWO extra PEOPLE and TWO people died night 0. HELLO! LOL


I think it should be pretty clear why I'm reading it that way, even if it's not true...



Yeah, you are crazy, that's clear!


Really?

Because this is the same way you respond to this stuff when you're evil.

You mentioned "those two extra people," then talked about killing "them" off. I remembered that Jerival and Nolemonplease were pretty late to join, so I interpreted it to mean that you were talking about killing the two most recent people to join.

Why is that ridiculous?


Its very incredibly ridiculous. It was CLEARLY a joke.


I don't think your joke post is as much the issue as the way you've responded to vanders asking about it. For me, that is what is feeling off about the whole interaction.

On the other hand, though, I am also a little worried about what other people were saying about Vanders targeting you as an easy mislynch and pushing you because of that.
Greg Wilson

Scarlett_O wrote:

What's wrong with being the second vote?


I've seen a lot of evils reluctant to put early votes on someone who already has votes - second or third votes, basically - because they don't want to be seen as the ones who started a push on someone.
Alabaster

jimryan1 wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

jimryan1 wrote:

I like Scarlett's entrance. I have no clue how to read Vanders but I like the questions he has asked so far. I also really like Paper today.
I could [vote Beren]
Hi! we've never played together before I don't think.


Why do you say you have no clue how to read me?


Because no matter how many games I've read with you in them, I just plain suck at calling your alignment. I've simply never figured out any of your "tells".


Ah!

Have you read a lot of games?
Greg Wilson

FaleohFang wrote:

When meta-voting I try to pick someone with no votes yet. I dithered too long and didn't see Jan's vote on Ame before I posted.


That's also a thing, although not necessarily alignment-indicative.
Stone

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Hi! I am SUPER glad we found those extra two people to sign up, just to kill them immediately!

[vote Royal]

??


Yep. Exactly... How are you reading this as the people who died? We got TWO extra PEOPLE and TWO people died night 0. HELLO! LOL


I think it should be pretty clear why I'm reading it that way, even if it's not true...



Yeah, you are crazy, that's clear!


Really?

Because this is the same way you respond to this stuff when you're evil.

You mentioned "those two extra people," then talked about killing "them" off. I remembered that Jerival and Nolemonplease were pretty late to join, so I interpreted it to mean that you were talking about killing the two most recent people to join.

Why is that ridiculous?


Its very incredibly ridiculous. It was CLEARLY a joke.


I don't think your joke post is as much the issue as the way you've responded to vanders asking about it. For me, that is what is feeling off about the whole interaction.

On the other hand, though, I am also a little worried about what other people were saying about Vanders targeting you as an easy mislynch and pushing you because of that.


Even though I can definitely see where you are coming from, I think Amekins can come off defensively when blame is put on her as either alignment.

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Hi! I am SUPER glad we found those extra two people to sign up, just to kill them immediately!

[vote Royal]

??


Yep. Exactly... How are you reading this as the people who died? We got TWO extra PEOPLE and TWO people died night 0. HELLO! LOL


I think it should be pretty clear why I'm reading it that way, even if it's not true...



Yeah, you are crazy, that's clear!


Really?

Because this is the same way you respond to this stuff when you're evil.

You mentioned "those two extra people," then talked about killing "them" off. I remembered that Jerival and Nolemonplease were pretty late to join, so I interpreted it to mean that you were talking about killing the two most recent people to join.

Why is that ridiculous?


Its very incredibly ridiculous. It was CLEARLY a joke.


I don't think your joke post is as much the issue as the way you've responded to vanders asking about it. For me, that is what is feeling off about the whole interaction.

On the other hand, though, I am also a little worried about what other people were saying about Vanders targeting you as an easy mislynch and pushing you because of that.


I don't think hes evil, he does this EVERY TIME we are both good. He zones in on something I say and makes me get all defensive because it is always something so dumb.
And yes I used to alwaysthink he was evil trying to push me as an easy mislynch
Alabaster

jimryan1 wrote:

jimryan1 wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

jimryan1 wrote:

I like Scarlett's entrance. I have no clue how to read Vanders but I like the questions he has asked so far. I also really like Paper today.
I could [vote Beren]
Hi! we've never played together before I don't think.


Why do you say you have no clue how to read me?


Because no matter how many games I've read with you in them, I just plain suck at calling your alignment. I've simply never figured out any of your "tells".


It dawns on me that my first statement may have been poorly worded and that's the question you are actually asking. To clarify, in this game I like your day just as much as I like Scarlett and Paper. My statement regarding being unable to read you was a meta statement about the fact that I have a hard time convincing myself of your alignment because I think you play a very good evil game and I'm always nervous about overlooking you.


Thanks!

I was thinking your statement about me implied more experience together than I thought we had, but it makes sense.
Jim Ryan

Vanderscamp wrote:

jimryan1 wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

jimryan1 wrote:

I like Scarlett's entrance. I have no clue how to read Vanders but I like the questions he has asked so far. I also really like Paper today.
I could [vote Beren]
Hi! we've never played together before I don't think.


Why do you say you have no clue how to read me?


Because no matter how many games I've read with you in them, I just plain suck at calling your alignment. I've simply never figured out any of your "tells".


Ah!

Have you read a lot of games?


I've read far more than I've been able to play in. Work usually leaves me little to no time to actually play. I found the WW forum last summer and actually started reading a lot of games to try and figure out how to actually play by forum since I tend to rely on verbal and visual cues when playing in person. I have probably read 10-15 or so games that you have been in. When reading along and trying to solve the games, Dake, Tommy, dbmurph and you have always been the biggest enigmas for me.
Alabaster

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Hi! I am SUPER glad we found those extra two people to sign up, just to kill them immediately!

[vote Royal]

??


Yep. Exactly... How are you reading this as the people who died? We got TWO extra PEOPLE and TWO people died night 0. HELLO! LOL


I think it should be pretty clear why I'm reading it that way, even if it's not true...



Yeah, you are crazy, that's clear!


Really?

Because this is the same way you respond to this stuff when you're evil.

You mentioned "those two extra people," then talked about killing "them" off. I remembered that Jerival and Nolemonplease were pretty late to join, so I interpreted it to mean that you were talking about killing the two most recent people to join.
Why is that ridiculous?


You do this every game.


No, I dont.

I think I've actually read you as good more often when you've been evil than I've read you evil when you've been good, it's just that in pretty much every game recently, one of us has been evil.
Alabaster

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Hi! I am SUPER glad we found those extra two people to sign up, just to kill them immediately!

[vote Royal]

??


Yep. Exactly... How are you reading this as the people who died? We got TWO extra PEOPLE and TWO people died night 0. HELLO! LOL


I think it should be pretty clear why I'm reading it that way, even if it's not true...



Yeah, you are crazy, that's clear!


Really?

Because this is the same way you respond to this stuff when you're evil.

You mentioned "those two extra people," then talked about killing "them" off. I remembered that Jerival and Nolemonplease were pretty late to join, so I interpreted it to mean that you were talking about killing the two most recent people to join.

Why is that ridiculous?


Its very incredibly ridiculous. It was CLEARLY a joke.


I understand it was a joke, I never said it wasn't.

But you can understand why I would have thought what I did, right?
Alabaster

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Hi! I am SUPER glad we found those extra two people to sign up, just to kill them immediately!

[vote Royal]

??


Yep. Exactly... How are you reading this as the people who died? We got TWO extra PEOPLE and TWO people died night 0. HELLO! LOL


I think it should be pretty clear why I'm reading it that way, even if it's not true...



Yeah, you are crazy, that's clear!


Really?

Because this is the same way you respond to this stuff when you're evil.

You mentioned "those two extra people," then talked about killing "them" off. I remembered that Jerival and Nolemonplease were pretty late to join, so I interpreted it to mean that you were talking about killing the two most recent people to join.

Why is that ridiculous?


Its very incredibly ridiculous. It was CLEARLY a joke.


I don't think your joke post is as much the issue as the way you've responded to vanders asking about it. For me, that is what is feeling off about the whole interaction.

On the other hand, though, I am also a little worried about what other people were saying about Vanders targeting you as an easy mislynch and pushing you because of that.


Yes to the first paragraph, and to the second paragraph, like, I could be evil and doing that?.. But you should use your read on Amy to decide whether she's evil, not your read on me.
Princess Sparklefists
I haven't played with Vander much, but he seems very pushy on petty things. I don't know if that's normal or not. It makes me want to keep an eye on him. Ame seems good so far tonally, but it's early. She is always talkative and I like her defensive responses. I haven't gotten a read on anyone else yet.

Hello Scarlet!

For the moment. [vote Vander]

FaleohFang wrote:

I haven't played with Vander much, but he seems very pushy on petty things. I don't know if that's normal or not. It makes me want to keep an eye on him. Ame seems good so far tonally, but it's early. She is always talkative and I like her defensive responses. I haven't gotten a read on anyone else yet.

Hello Scarlet!

For the moment. [vote Vander]


I appreciate that, but all I did is make one joke then argue! I will ignore it and play now.
Alabaster

Amekins wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Hi! I am SUPER glad we found those extra two people to sign up, just to kill them immediately!

[vote Royal]

??


Yep. Exactly... How are you reading this as the people who died? We got TWO extra PEOPLE and TWO people died night 0. HELLO! LOL


I think it should be pretty clear why I'm reading it that way, even if it's not true...



Yeah, you are crazy, that's clear!


Really?

Because this is the same way you respond to this stuff when you're evil.

You mentioned "those two extra people," then talked about killing "them" off. I remembered that Jerival and Nolemonplease were pretty late to join, so I interpreted it to mean that you were talking about killing the two most recent people to join.

Why is that ridiculous?


Its very incredibly ridiculous. It was CLEARLY a joke.


I don't think your joke post is as much the issue as the way you've responded to vanders asking about it. For me, that is what is feeling off about the whole interaction.

On the other hand, though, I am also a little worried about what other people were saying about Vanders targeting you as an easy mislynch and pushing you because of that.


I don't think hes evil, he does this EVERY TIME we are both good. He zones in on something I say and makes me get all defensive because it is always something so dumb.


When was the last time I did this and we were both good?

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Hi! I am SUPER glad we found those extra two people to sign up, just to kill them immediately!

[vote Royal]

??


Yep. Exactly... How are you reading this as the people who died? We got TWO extra PEOPLE and TWO people died night 0. HELLO! LOL


I think it should be pretty clear why I'm reading it that way, even if it's not true...



Yeah, you are crazy, that's clear!


Really?

Because this is the same way you respond to this stuff when you're evil.

You mentioned "those two extra people," then talked about killing "them" off. I remembered that Jerival and Nolemonplease were pretty late to join, so I interpreted it to mean that you were talking about killing the two most recent people to join.

Why is that ridiculous?


Its very incredibly ridiculous. It was CLEARLY a joke.


I understand it was a joke, I never said it wasn't.

But you can understand why I would have thought what I did, right?


I'm sorry but I cant see your POV on this one. It doesn't matter though. lets just drop it.

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Hi! I am SUPER glad we found those extra two people to sign up, just to kill them immediately!

[vote Royal]

??


Yep. Exactly... How are you reading this as the people who died? We got TWO extra PEOPLE and TWO people died night 0. HELLO! LOL


I think it should be pretty clear why I'm reading it that way, even if it's not true...



Yeah, you are crazy, that's clear!


Really?

Because this is the same way you respond to this stuff when you're evil.

You mentioned "those two extra people," then talked about killing "them" off. I remembered that Jerival and Nolemonplease were pretty late to join, so I interpreted it to mean that you were talking about killing the two most recent people to join.

Why is that ridiculous?


Its very incredibly ridiculous. It was CLEARLY a joke.


I don't think your joke post is as much the issue as the way you've responded to vanders asking about it. For me, that is what is feeling off about the whole interaction.

On the other hand, though, I am also a little worried about what other people were saying about Vanders targeting you as an easy mislynch and pushing you because of that.


I don't think hes evil, he does this EVERY TIME we are both good. He zones in on something I say and makes me get all defensive because it is always something so dumb.


When was the last time I did this and we were both good?


Whatever we played in last.
Alabaster

FaleohFang wrote:

I haven't played with Vander much, but he seems very pushy on petty things. I don't know if that's normal or not. It makes me want to keep an eye on him. Ame seems good so far tonally, but it's early. She is always talkative and I like her defensive responses. I haven't gotten a read on anyone else yet.

Hello Scarlet!

For the moment. [vote Vander]


It's pretty normal.

Can you explain what you like about her responses?
Alabaster

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Hi! I am SUPER glad we found those extra two people to sign up, just to kill them immediately!

[vote Royal]

??


Yep. Exactly... How are you reading this as the people who died? We got TWO extra PEOPLE and TWO people died night 0. HELLO! LOL


I think it should be pretty clear why I'm reading it that way, even if it's not true...



Yeah, you are crazy, that's clear!


Really?

Because this is the same way you respond to this stuff when you're evil.

You mentioned "those two extra people," then talked about killing "them" off. I remembered that Jerival and Nolemonplease were pretty late to join, so I interpreted it to mean that you were talking about killing the two most recent people to join.

Why is that ridiculous?


Its very incredibly ridiculous. It was CLEARLY a joke.


I don't think your joke post is as much the issue as the way you've responded to vanders asking about it. For me, that is what is feeling off about the whole interaction.

On the other hand, though, I am also a little worried about what other people were saying about Vanders targeting you as an easy mislynch and pushing you because of that.


I don't think hes evil, he does this EVERY TIME we are both good. He zones in on something I say and makes me get all defensive because it is always something so dumb.


When was the last time I did this and we were both good?


Whatever we played in last.


No, I didn't.

Because I remember the last few games where we were both good and I didn't suspect you at any point.

Like, I'm not sure if you're lying about this because you're evil, or you're just mistaken, but I don't tunnel on you when we're both good.

I want you to give me just one example of a time where we've both been good, and I've tunnelled on something you've said like this.
Cassandra Project
VOTE TALLY

Player (13/15) - # - Voted by

stonecutter129 - 2 - PaperF(8), AlwaysIdle(11)
Amekins - 2 - janiera(2), FaleohFang(3) , Vanderscamp(12)
BerenCamlost - 2 - Jimryan1(16), stonecutter129(17)
janiera - 1 - FaleohFang(4) , Floofies(6)
Scarlett_O - 1 - ortho_(13)
PaperF - 1 - Jimryan1(5) , stonecutter129(7) , BerenCamlost(14)
FaleohFang - 1 - BlackSheep(15)
Vanderscamp - 1 - ortho_(9) , FaleohFang(18)
ortho_ - 0 - PaperF(1) , Vanderscamp(10)

Not Voting: Amekins, Scarlett_O


Nightfall votes are denoted by an '*' after the player's name.

Your Moderator has chosen to use the Longest Held Last Vote method for a tiebreaker - This is just for Cassandra system, and there may be a different tiebreaker specified by your Moderator in the ruleset.

Lynch time is at 6:00 PM BGG
Night Action deadline is at 7:00 PM BGG
---------------------

INVERTED TALLY

Voter - # - Voted on

AlwaysIdle - 1 - stonecutter129(11)
BerenCamlost - 1 - PaperF(14)
BlackSheep - 1 - FaleohFang(15)
FaleohFang - 3 - Amekins(3) , janiera(4) , Vanderscamp(18)
Floofies - 1 - janiera(6)
janiera - 1 - Amekins(2)
Jimryan1 - 2 - PaperF(5) , BerenCamlost(16)
ortho_ - 2 - Vanderscamp(9) , Scarlett_O(13)
PaperF - 2 - ortho_(1) , stonecutter129(8)
stonecutter129 - 2 - PaperF(7) , BerenCamlost(17)
Vanderscamp - 2 - ortho_(10) , Amekins(12)

Not Voting: Amekins, Scarlett_O
Trust me, it's happened. I don't care enough about trying to prove my point to go back to older games and look. (I'm working)

You think you see something weird or suspicious said and you latch on.
Also Hi Silver!
Princess Sparklefists

Vanderscamp wrote:

FaleohFang wrote:

I haven't played with Vander much, but he seems very pushy on petty things. I don't know if that's normal or not. It makes me want to keep an eye on him. Ame seems good so far tonally, but it's early. She is always talkative and I like her defensive responses. I haven't gotten a read on anyone else yet.

Hello Scarlet!

For the moment. [vote Vander]


It's pretty normal.

Can you explain what you like about her responses?


She seems sincerely annoyed. But as I said it's early.
Alabaster

FaleohFang wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

FaleohFang wrote:

I haven't played with Vander much, but he seems very pushy on petty things. I don't know if that's normal or not. It makes me want to keep an eye on him. Ame seems good so far tonally, but it's early. She is always talkative and I like her defensive responses. I haven't gotten a read on anyone else yet.

Hello Scarlet!

For the moment. [vote Vander]


It's pretty normal.

Can you explain what you like about her responses?


She seems sincerely annoyed. But as I said it's early.


I believe she is sincerely annoyed.
Do you think she wouldn't be annoyed as evil if she was getting read as evil for what she thinks is a bad reason?
Princess Sparklefists
Just throwing up my normal PSA. I am completely unavailable between 2BGG and 6BGG.
Jimryan, do you have any evil reads at this point?

Amekins wrote:

Also Hi Silver!


I don't think silver is in this game?
Alabaster

Amekins wrote:

Trust me, it's happened. I don't care enough about trying to prove my point to go back to older games and look. (I'm working)

You think you see something weird or suspicious said and you latch on.


I don't trust you, because I remember this stuff, and you're wrong.
I do do this, when one of us is evil.
Scarlett, the reasons I voted you were that I could definitely see you being a wolf who'd want to kill nolemon, and that I think I've observed differences between your wolf game and your good game and so I wanted to poke you early.

I think you're good based on what I've seen so far.
Princess Sparklefists

Vanderscamp wrote:

FaleohFang wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

FaleohFang wrote:

I haven't played with Vander much, but he seems very pushy on petty things. I don't know if that's normal or not. It makes me want to keep an eye on him. Ame seems good so far tonally, but it's early. She is always talkative and I like her defensive responses. I haven't gotten a read on anyone else yet.

Hello Scarlet!

For the moment. [vote Vander]


It's pretty normal.

Can you explain what you like about her responses?


She seems sincerely annoyed. But as I said it's early.


I believe she is sincerely annoyed.
Do you think she wouldn't be annoyed as evil if she was getting read as evil for what she thinks is a bad reason?


I liked her tone. She would be annoyed, yes.
[vote jimryan]
Jim Ryan

ortho_ wrote:

Jimryan, do you have any evil reads at this point?


No. At this point I like Paper, Scarlett and Vanders. I've seen Ame be this defensive as good, but I don't know that I've ever seen or read evil Ame, so I'm looking elsewhere today.
I'm not sure where I lean yet on you, suffice it to say Rainbow is still foremost in my thoughts when it comes to you and Paper!

I don't know what to make of stone and FaFang yet. I wrote down that I had a little ping from stone leaving Paper right after I did, but I can't even remember why and on reread I don't see whatever I saw before.

ortho_ wrote:

Scarlett, the reasons I voted you were that I could definitely see you being a wolf who'd want to kill nolemon, and that I think I've observed differences between your wolf game and your good game and so I wanted to poke you early.

I think you're good based on what I've seen so far.


Why would you think I would want to kill lemon? I'm not sure I ever have killed her as a wolf, not that that really means much. But, she always says she trusts me too easy, so tbh she'd probably not have been on my list of people I'd want to kill. I know that's not helpful because, WIFOM, but I was just curious why you think I would have nked her as a wolf.

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Also Hi Silver!


I don't think silver is in this game?


She's guest modding

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Trust me, it's happened. I don't care enough about trying to prove my point to go back to older games and look. (I'm working)

You think you see something weird or suspicious said and you latch on.


I don't trust you, because I remember this stuff, and you're wrong.
I do do this, when one of us is evil.


Oh, so you are admitting you are evil? hahahahahaahahahahahaha

Amekins wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Also Hi Silver!


I don't think silver is in this game?


She's guest modding


Oh, I thought it was Smug

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Also Hi Silver!


I don't think silver is in this game?


She's guest modding


Oh, I thought it was Smug


...maybe I'm wrong! lol

RoyalApe wrote:

Game will be co-modded by:

[user=silverbonds]

Be gentle, it is her first time.

Scarlett_O wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Scarlett, the reasons I voted you were that I could definitely see you being a wolf who'd want to kill nolemon, and that I think I've observed differences between your wolf game and your good game and so I wanted to poke you early.

I think you're good based on what I've seen so far.


Why would you think I would want to kill lemon? I'm not sure I ever have killed her as a wolf, not that that really means much. But, she always says she trusts me too easy, so tbh she'd probably not have been on my list of people I'd want to kill. I know that's not helpful because, WIFOM, but I was just curious why you think I would have nked her as a wolf.


Ah, I guess I don't remember your dynamic well enough. I just remember nolemon being in each game you've played that I've been in, and knowing she's a good player I figured you'd be at the top of the list of people who'd want her dead. Especially given I'm not sure how familiar you'd be with a decent number of the players in this game.

Didn't we kill her in the game where we were both wolves? Now I'm curious, going to check back.
Amekins - putting the vander thing aside, what impressions do you have from the game so far? Anyone else reading good/evil?

RoyalApe wrote:

B{Guest moderator: Smugvid

Processing Dawn now. First lynch will be Monday at 6pm BGG.


And Smug is in Modchat, but not silver. :shrug:
Alabaster

jimryan1 wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Jimryan, do you have any evil reads at this point?


No. At this point I like Paper, Scarlett and Vanders. I've seen Ame be this defensive as good, but I don't know that I've ever seen or read evil Ame, so I'm looking elsewhere today.
I'm not sure where I lean yet on you, suffice it to say Rainbow is still foremost in my thoughts when it comes to you and Paper!

I don't know what to make of stone and FaFang yet. I wrote down that I had a little ping from stone leaving Paper right after I did, but I can't even remember why and on reread I don't see whatever I saw before.



I think Jim is good.
Alabaster

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Trust me, it's happened. I don't care enough about trying to prove my point to go back to older games and look. (I'm working)

You think you see something weird or suspicious said and you latch on.


I don't trust you, because I remember this stuff, and you're wrong.
I do do this, when one of us is evil.


Oh, so you are admitting you are evil? hahahahahaahahahahahaha


No, I'm saying it's really weird that you're saying this stuff, and I'm trying to figure out if you're lying or just mistaken.

If you can remember even one example of a time when we were both good and I went after you, that's fine.

Scarlett_O wrote:

RoyalApe wrote:

B{Guest moderator: Smugvid

Processing Dawn now. First lynch will be Monday at 6pm BGG.


And Smug is in Modchat, but not silver. :shrug:


oh I didn't notice. Weird.

ortho_ wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Scarlett, the reasons I voted you were that I could definitely see you being a wolf who'd want to kill nolemon, and that I think I've observed differences between your wolf game and your good game and so I wanted to poke you early.

I think you're good based on what I've seen so far.


Why would you think I would want to kill lemon? I'm not sure I ever have killed her as a wolf, not that that really means much. But, she always says she trusts me too easy, so tbh she'd probably not have been on my list of people I'd want to kill. I know that's not helpful because, WIFOM, but I was just curious why you think I would have nked her as a wolf.


Ah, I guess I don't remember your dynamic well enough. I just remember nolemon being in each game you've played that I've been in, and knowing she's a good player I figured you'd be at the top of the list of people who'd want her dead. Especially given I'm not sure how familiar you'd be with a decent number of the players in this game.

Didn't we kill her in the game where we were both wolves? Now I'm curious, going to check back.


No, she stayed alive the whole game. Well, she was replaced at some point, but the seat stayed alive.

But, yeah...there are several people in this game I haven't played with before.

ortho_ wrote:

Amekins - putting the vander thing aside, what impressions do you have from the game so far? Anyone else reading good/evil?


Some good, no evil yet
Alabaster
Do you think I'm evil, Amy?
Amy O'Neal

Vanderscamp wrote:

Do you think I'm evil, Amy?


I'm not sure if you are good or evil yet... I think it's probable that you and Ame are on opposite teams...
Sirius Black

Amekins wrote:

RoyalApe wrote:

Game will be co-modded by:

[user=silverbonds]

Be gentle, it is her first time.


This was original plan before Cassy crashed. I didn't hear back from Silver when we pushed to get the game started last week - but she is welcome to join in if she is reading this!

Vanderscamp wrote:

jimryan1 wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Jimryan, do you have any evil reads at this point?


No. At this point I like Paper, Scarlett and Vanders. I've seen Ame be this defensive as good, but I don't know that I've ever seen or read evil Ame, so I'm looking elsewhere today.
I'm not sure where I lean yet on you, suffice it to say Rainbow is still foremost in my thoughts when it comes to you and Paper!

I don't know what to make of stone and FaFang yet. I wrote down that I had a little ping from stone leaving Paper right after I did, but I can't even remember why and on reread I don't see whatever I saw before.



I think Jim is good.


That post sounds pretty good. What do you think of blacksheep so far?


I like PaperF and Scarlett. I liked a post stonecutter made earlier - the one about all the people who've played with jerival. It's easy, but I think for a lot of players effort stuff like that happens more as good than evil. Janiera didn't scare me with her early stuff.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to find an evil in your and Amekins.


After that it's just a bunch of low posters. So is the wolf team Amekins/Vander and 2 of floofies/beren/alwaysidle/faleoh? Or is it more difficult than that?
Cassandra Project
VOTE TALLY

Player (13/15) - # - Voted by

stonecutter129 - 2 - PaperF(8), AlwaysIdle(11)
Amekins - 2 - janiera(2), FaleohFang(3) , Vanderscamp(12)
BerenCamlost - 2 - Jimryan1(16), stonecutter129(17)
janiera - 1 - FaleohFang(4) , Floofies(6)
PaperF - 1 - Jimryan1(5) , stonecutter129(7) , BerenCamlost(14)
FaleohFang - 1 - BlackSheep(15)
Vanderscamp - 1 - ortho_(9) , FaleohFang(18)
Jimryan1 - 1 - ortho_(19)
Scarlett_O - 0 - ortho_(13)
ortho_ - 0 - PaperF(1) , Vanderscamp(10)

Not Voting: Amekins, Scarlett_O


Nightfall votes are denoted by an '*' after the player's name.

Your Moderator has chosen to use the Longest Held Last Vote method for a tiebreaker - This is just for Cassandra system, and there may be a different tiebreaker specified by your Moderator in the ruleset.

Lynch time is at 6:00 PM BGG
Night Action deadline is at 7:00 PM BGG
---------------------

INVERTED TALLY

Voter - # - Voted on

AlwaysIdle - 1 - stonecutter129(11)
BerenCamlost - 1 - PaperF(14)
BlackSheep - 1 - FaleohFang(15)
FaleohFang - 3 - Amekins(3) , janiera(4) , Vanderscamp(18)
Floofies - 1 - janiera(6)
janiera - 1 - Amekins(2)
Jimryan1 - 2 - PaperF(5) , BerenCamlost(16)
ortho_ - 3 - Vanderscamp(9) , Scarlett_O(13) , Jimryan1(19)
PaperF - 2 - ortho_(1) , stonecutter129(8)
stonecutter129 - 2 - PaperF(7) , BerenCamlost(17)
Vanderscamp - 2 - ortho_(10) , Amekins(12)

Not Voting: Amekins, Scarlett_O
Princess Sparklefists
BGG is lagging and not showing me updates well.
Alabaster

janiera wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Do you think I'm evil, Amy?


I'm not sure if you are good or evil yet... I think it's probable that you and Ame are on opposite teams...


What's up Jan!

Can I have a summary of your other reads?
Alabaster

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

jimryan1 wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Jimryan, do you have any evil reads at this point?


No. At this point I like Paper, Scarlett and Vanders. I've seen Ame be this defensive as good, but I don't know that I've ever seen or read evil Ame, so I'm looking elsewhere today.
I'm not sure where I lean yet on you, suffice it to say Rainbow is still foremost in my thoughts when it comes to you and Paper!

I don't know what to make of stone and FaFang yet. I wrote down that I had a little ping from stone leaving Paper right after I did, but I can't even remember why and on reread I don't see whatever I saw before.



I think Jim is good.


That post sounds pretty good. What do you think of blacksheep so far?


I like PaperF and Scarlett. I liked a post stonecutter made earlier - the one about all the people who've played with jerival. It's easy, but I think for a lot of players effort stuff like that happens more as good than evil. Janiera didn't scare me with her early stuff.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to find an evil in your and Amekins.


After that it's just a bunch of low posters. So is the wolf team Amekins/Vander and 2 of floofies/beren/alwaysidle/faleoh? Or is it more difficult than that?


I don't have strong thoughts on Blacksheep, why do you like Jan?

Vanderscamp wrote:


I don't have strong thoughts on Blacksheep, why do you like Jan?


She felt pretty relaxed and natural to me with her posts so far. I think she's a little more self-conscious when she's evil. Take a look at Hi 131, a game which just concluded and she was a wolf. I see a tonal contrast.
Ortho. Are you good.
Greg Wilson

Vanderscamp wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

That post sounds pretty good. What do you think of blacksheep so far?


I don't have strong thoughts on Blacksheep, why do you like Jan?


I'd be surprised if anyone does, I've barely been around so far.
Alabaster

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:


I don't have strong thoughts on Blacksheep, why do you like Jan?


She felt pretty relaxed and natural to me with her posts so far. I think she's a little more self-conscious when she's evil. Take a look at Hi 131, a game which just concluded and she was a wolf. I see a tonal contrast.


I've read through some of her games and I'm afraid I don't see it..

Amekins wrote:

Ortho. Are you good.


Yep. Are we finally on the same team? My heart says 'yes', but it always seems to be wrong!

Vanderscamp wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:


I don't have strong thoughts on Blacksheep, why do you like Jan?


She felt pretty relaxed and natural to me with her posts so far. I think she's a little more self-conscious when she's evil. Take a look at Hi 131, a game which just concluded and she was a wolf. I see a tonal contrast.


I've read through some of her games and I'm afraid I don't see it..


OK, feel free to continue to be suspicious. I don't have her down as a lock good, but I think her posts so far seemed more good!janiera.

PaperF, what do you think of Janiera so far?
Amy O'Neal

Vanderscamp wrote:

janiera wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Do you think I'm evil, Amy?


I'm not sure if you are good or evil yet... I think it's probable that you and Ame are on opposite teams...


What's up Jan!

Can I have a summary of your other reads?


I think paper is good, but not saying that definitively, since he has fooled me in the past... Scarlett and ortho are getting tentative good reads, but time will tell there... Ffang is a neutral, and no one else has posted enough for me to get a feel on them...

Edited cause stupid phone changes Ffang to Tfang... shake

ortho_ wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Ortho. Are you good.


Yep. Are we finally on the same team? My heart says 'yes', but it always seems to be wrong!


I am forrreals good this time. So you are probably evil.
Tokah

janiera wrote:

Edited cause stupid phone changes Ffang to Tfang... shake


ninja I was actually really enjoying being blamed for a night kill and then being a neutral read for someone, all without being in the game! =) ninja
Amy O'Neal

janiera wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

janiera wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Do you think I'm evil, Amy?


I'm not sure if you are good or evil yet... I think it's probable that you and Ame are on opposite teams...


What's up Jan!

Can I have a summary of your other reads?


I think paper is good, but not saying that definitively, since he has fooled me in the past... Scarlett and ortho are getting tentative good reads, but time will tell there... Ffang is a neutral, and no one else has posted enough for me to get a feel on them...

Edited cause stupid phone changes Ffang to Tfang... shake


Oh, another point of discussion, going back to the "why would the wolves target Medical" thing... I was a mentor for someone else in his first game, and he was b making points in that game that I haven't even seen from more experienced players... He was scary good at reading things as a player on the good team... Based on that game alone, I can completely understand why the wolves targeted him... The game was Hi 130...
Patrick Hill

jimryan1 wrote:

I like Scarlett's entrance. I have no clue how to read Vanders but I like the questions he has asked so far. I also really like Paper today.
I could [vote Beren]
Hi! we've never played together before I don't think.


Hi Jim! We have played together. I was in the last Rainbow with you.
Alabaster
So the result of my pressure on Amy is that I'm unsure of her alignment.

Pretty strong.


I think I'm going to try to go to sleep soon, I should be here for lynch.
Alabaster
Reads, Beren?
Alabaster
Do you think I'm evil, Amy?

Vanderscamp wrote:

So the result of my pressure on Amy is that I'm unsure of her alignment.

Pretty strong.


I think I'm going to try to go to sleep soon, I should be here for lynch.


Vander, do you have any evil reads?
Jim Ryan

BerenCamlost wrote:

jimryan1 wrote:

I like Scarlett's entrance. I have no clue how to read Vanders but I like the questions he has asked so far. I also really like Paper today.
I could [vote Beren]
Hi! we've never played together before I don't think.


Hi Jim! We have played together. I was in the last Rainbow with you.


blush
You would think I would have remembered, but all I recall from that game was my blunder at the end stringing up Benes, and how well ortho and Paper did at fooling me. Now that you say it, I remember how much people were mixing up you and Benes.
Alabaster

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

So the result of my pressure on Amy is that I'm unsure of her alignment.

Pretty strong.


I think I'm going to try to go to sleep soon, I should be here for lynch.


Vander, do you have any evil reads?


Amy might be my top evil still, maybe faleoh.
Patrick Hill

Vanderscamp wrote:

Reads, Beren?


This is my third or fourth game in a row with Amekins and she has been both good and evil (and undecided). Her responses have been pretty much the same especially so early in the game. How well do you know Amekins? Perhaps your pressure was FUD to hide behind. I'm not sure I trust you.

I like Jan and Scarlett. I have liked everything they've posted so far.

I hate to say it, but my read on Paper this game so far is also good. I will be moving my meta vote.

I need to reread Ortho. I've noticed I have a hard time reading him, because he is such a good player whether he is good or evil.

FaleohFang gave me some pingy reads.

That is all I got so far. Today is a busy Monday for me irl and I have earlier lynch times, but I will be back in more than enough time for lynch.

For now,

[Vote FaleohFang]
Patrick Hill

jimryan1 wrote:

BerenCamlost wrote:

jimryan1 wrote:

I like Scarlett's entrance. I have no clue how to read Vanders but I like the questions he has asked so far. I also really like Paper today.
I could [vote Beren]
Hi! we've never played together before I don't think.


Hi Jim! We have played together. I was in the last Rainbow with you.


blush
You would think I would have remembered, but all I recall from that game was my blunder at the end stringing up Benes, and how well ortho and Paper did at fooling me. Now that you say it, I remember how much people were mixing up you and Benes.


Yep, it has been happening in every game even if Benes isn't playing.

Vanderscamp wrote:

Do you think I'm evil, Amy?


First instinct is no ... You haven't done this as evil. At least not to me.

Vanderscamp wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

So the result of my pressure on Amy is that I'm unsure of her alignment.

Pretty strong.


I think I'm going to try to go to sleep soon, I should be here for lynch.


Vander, do you have any evil reads?


Amy might be my top evil still, maybe faleoh.


I hate it when my posts get misinterpreted. And twisted.

Worst reason ever to think someone is evil.
Alabaster
[vote Amekins]

The last time you were good and I was evil, it was game for 19 and I went after you D2 and you basically immediately retaliated and called me evil, which you're not doing here.
The last time I went hard against you and I was good and you were evil, you just called me good.

I'm not sold on this but I think your reaction to my pressure has just been more indicative of your evil game.
Because I thought you were good that game .., I have no idea yet if you're good or evil. Give me time and I'll tell you.

Amekins wrote:

Because I thought you were good that game .., I have no idea yet if you're good or evil. Give me time and I'll tell you.


Who are the good reads you have so far, the ones you mentioned earlier?
Cassandra Project
VOTE TALLY

Player (13/15) - # - Voted by

stonecutter129 - 2 - PaperF(8), AlwaysIdle(11)
BerenCamlost - 2 - Jimryan1(16), stonecutter129(17)
FaleohFang - 2 - BlackSheep(15), BerenCamlost(20)
Amekins - 2 - janiera(2), FaleohFang(3) , Vanderscamp(12) , Vanderscamp(21)
janiera - 1 - FaleohFang(4) , Floofies(6)
Vanderscamp - 1 - ortho_(9) , FaleohFang(18)
Jimryan1 - 1 - ortho_(19)
Scarlett_O - 0 - ortho_(13)
ortho_ - 0 - PaperF(1) , Vanderscamp(10)
PaperF - 0 - Jimryan1(5) , stonecutter129(7) , BerenCamlost(14)

Not Voting: Amekins, Scarlett_O


Nightfall votes are denoted by an '*' after the player's name.

Your Moderator has chosen to use the Longest Held Last Vote method for a tiebreaker - This is just for Cassandra system, and there may be a different tiebreaker specified by your Moderator in the ruleset.

Lynch time is at 6:00 PM BGG
Night Action deadline is at 7:00 PM BGG
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INVERTED TALLY

Voter - # - Voted on

AlwaysIdle - 1 - stonecutter129(11)
BerenCamlost - 2 - PaperF(14) , FaleohFang(20)
BlackSheep - 1 - FaleohFang(15)
FaleohFang - 3 - Amekins(3) , janiera(4) , Vanderscamp(18)
Floofies - 1 - janiera(6)
janiera - 1 - Amekins(2)
Jimryan1 - 2 - PaperF(5) , BerenCamlost(16)
ortho_ - 3 - Vanderscamp(9) , Scarlett_O(13) , Jimryan1(19)
PaperF - 2 - ortho_(1) , stonecutter129(8)
stonecutter129 - 2 - PaperF(7) , BerenCamlost(17)
Vanderscamp - 3 - ortho_(10) , Amekins(12) , Amekins(21)

Not Voting: Amekins, Scarlett_O

Amekins wrote:

Because I thought you were good that game .., I have no idea yet if you're good or evil. Give me time and I'll tell you.


You've said twice that you think he's good, but now that he's voted you, you are saying that you have no idea?

Amekins wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Hi! I am SUPER glad we found those extra two people to sign up, just to kill them immediately!

[vote Royal]

??


Yep. Exactly... How are you reading this as the people who died? We got TWO extra PEOPLE and TWO people died night 0. HELLO! LOL


I think it should be pretty clear why I'm reading it that way, even if it's not true...



Yeah, you are crazy, that's clear!


Really?

Because this is the same way you respond to this stuff when you're evil.

You mentioned "those two extra people," then talked about killing "them" off. I remembered that Jerival and Nolemonplease were pretty late to join, so I interpreted it to mean that you were talking about killing the two most recent people to join.

Why is that ridiculous?


Its very incredibly ridiculous. It was CLEARLY a joke.


I don't think your joke post is as much the issue as the way you've responded to vanders asking about it. For me, that is what is feeling off about the whole interaction.

On the other hand, though, I am also a little worried about what other people were saying about Vanders targeting you as an easy mislynch and pushing you because of that.


I don't think hes evil, he does this EVERY TIME we are both good. He zones in on something I say and makes me get all defensive because it is always something so dumb.


Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Do you think I'm evil, Amy?


First instinct is no ... You haven't done this as evil. At least not to me.
Does BGG keep timing out for anyone else? It's getting frustrating...especially when it times out when I am commenting and then I lose my post. soblue
I'm going to [vote amekins]. I think it's pretty likely that one of her and vanders is probably evil based on their interactions today and she is my best bet out of the two.
Stone

Amekins wrote:

Jerival wrote:

I'll join if this starts next week, definitely cannot do the first week of may.


Yeah!!! Jeri


Amekins wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Amekins, are you friends with jerival IRL or from other games on BGG?


Other games on here, he played the first one a week or two ago and killed it. Hes impressive.


So, if Amy was the force for a Jerival NK, why does she say things like this before the game has started?

What do you guys think?
Princess Sparklefists

Scarlett_O wrote:

Does BGG keep timing out for anyone else? It's getting frustrating...especially when it times out when I am commenting and then I lose my post. soblue


yes

stonecutter129 wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Jerival wrote:

I'll join if this starts next week, definitely cannot do the first week of may.


Yeah!!! Jeri


Amekins wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Amekins, are you friends with jerival IRL or from other games on BGG?


Other games on here, he played the first one a week or two ago and killed it. Hes impressive.


So, if Amy was the force for a Jerival NK, why does she say things like this before the game has started?

What do you guys think?


You're suggesting that this points away from Amekins being a wolf who NK'd Jerival? If so, why?
Cassandra Project
VOTE TALLY

Player (13/15) - # - Voted by

Amekins - 3 - janiera(2), FaleohFang(3) , Vanderscamp(12) , Vanderscamp(21), Scarlett_O(22)
stonecutter129 - 2 - PaperF(8), AlwaysIdle(11)
BerenCamlost - 2 - Jimryan1(16), stonecutter129(17)
FaleohFang - 2 - BlackSheep(15), BerenCamlost(20)
janiera - 1 - FaleohFang(4) , Floofies(6)
Vanderscamp - 1 - ortho_(9) , FaleohFang(18)
Jimryan1 - 1 - ortho_(19)
Scarlett_O - 0 - ortho_(13)
ortho_ - 0 - PaperF(1) , Vanderscamp(10)
PaperF - 0 - Jimryan1(5) , stonecutter129(7) , BerenCamlost(14)

Not Voting: Amekins


Nightfall votes are denoted by an '*' after the player's name.

Your Moderator has chosen to use the Longest Held Last Vote method for a tiebreaker - This is just for Cassandra system, and there may be a different tiebreaker specified by your Moderator in the ruleset.

Lynch time is at 6:00 PM BGG
Night Action deadline is at 7:00 PM BGG
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INVERTED TALLY

Voter - # - Voted on

AlwaysIdle - 1 - stonecutter129(11)
BerenCamlost - 2 - PaperF(14) , FaleohFang(20)
BlackSheep - 1 - FaleohFang(15)
FaleohFang - 3 - Amekins(3) , janiera(4) , Vanderscamp(18)
Floofies - 1 - janiera(6)
janiera - 1 - Amekins(2)
Jimryan1 - 2 - PaperF(5) , BerenCamlost(16)
ortho_ - 3 - Vanderscamp(9) , Scarlett_O(13) , Jimryan1(19)
PaperF - 2 - ortho_(1) , stonecutter129(8)
Scarlett_O - 1 - Amekins(22)
stonecutter129 - 2 - PaperF(7) , BerenCamlost(17)
Vanderscamp - 3 - ortho_(10) , Amekins(12) , Amekins(21)

Not Voting: Amekins

ortho_ wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Because I thought you were good that game .., I have no idea yet if you're good or evil. Give me time and I'll tell you.


Who are the good reads you have so far, the ones you mentioned earlier?


Gut pluses on you, Fa, Scarlett and Jim. Beren too. If Vsnders wasn't haranguing me I'd prob say him too. I do still think he's good. So far.

stonecutter129 wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Jerival wrote:

I'll join if this starts next week, definitely cannot do the first week of may.


Yeah!!! Jeri


Amekins wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Amekins, are you friends with jerival IRL or from other games on BGG?


Other games on here, he played the first one a week or two ago and killed it. Hes impressive.


So, if Amy was the force for a Jerival NK, why does she say things like this before the game has started?

What do you guys think?


I'd probably night kill him if I was a wolf but not first. Id kill Ortho first, lol... And maybe Vsnders or paper.

Scarlett_O wrote:

I'm going to [vote amekins]. I think it's pretty likely that one of her and vanders is probably evil based on their interactions today and she is my best bet out of the two.


Eek that's awful .. And very piggy backy !
Stone

ortho_ wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Jerival wrote:

I'll join if this starts next week, definitely cannot do the first week of may.


Yeah!!! Jeri


Amekins wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Amekins, are you friends with jerival IRL or from other games on BGG?


Other games on here, he played the first one a week or two ago and killed it. Hes impressive.


So, if Amy was the force for a Jerival NK, why does she say things like this before the game has started?

What do you guys think?


You're suggesting that this points away from Amekins being a wolf who NK'd Jerival? If so, why?


In my experience with Amy, I find her very direct with what she is saying. I have played games with her, mostly as good. She's pretty easygoing, until someone gets on the attack with her.

Would evil Amy say things like this right before she night kills Jerival? I don't know. I think Amy has things on the surface, which could be a good thing. I don't think she is the most plotting evil, where she would throw out this WIFOM before killing someone. It just doesn't seem like her to me.

I find her a very curious case at the moment. If I didn't know her, I would definitely be voting for her. I just find rereading her somewhat intriguing.
Is lynch today ?
Stone
I think I read her somewhat well, although I think the only experience I have with her is Under the Sea.

I just don't see her throwing that out there before she kills someone. I made that long post about players in Soft Serve thinking that Jerival was very impressive, and she was not in Witch Hunt which was kind of a dud with him. It's possible she lead the lynch on Jeri, but sometimes the most obvious answer is not the right one.
Sirius Black

Amekins wrote:

Is lynch today ?


Yes

stonecutter129 wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Jerival wrote:

I'll join if this starts next week, definitely cannot do the first week of may.


Yeah!!! Jeri


Amekins wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Amekins, are you friends with jerival IRL or from other games on BGG?


Other games on here, he played the first one a week or two ago and killed it. Hes impressive.


So, if Amy was the force for a Jerival NK, why does she say things like this before the game has started?

What do you guys think?


You're suggesting that this points away from Amekins being a wolf who NK'd Jerival? If so, why?


In my experience with Amy, I find her very direct with what she is saying. I have played games with her, mostly as good. She's pretty easygoing, until someone gets on the attack with her.

Would evil Amy say things like this right before she night kills Jerival? I don't know. I think Amy has things on the surface, which could be a good thing. I don't think she is the most plotting evil, where she would throw out this WIFOM before killing someone. It just doesn't seem like her to me.

I find her a very curious case at the moment. If I didn't know her, I would definitely be voting for her. I just find rereading her somewhat intriguing.


Well, but wasn't that first post made before roles went out? At the time when she said that, all she knew was that she was going to play a game with Jerival.

As for the second post, I don't see why posting that would be alignment indicative either way. Also, it was made after the game started, not prior to the kill.
[vote always]. Where are you? Any thoughts on the game so far?

stonecutter129 wrote:

I think I read her somewhat well, although I think the only experience I have with her is Under the Sea.

I just don't see her throwing that out there before she kills someone. I made that long post about players in Soft Serve thinking that Jerival was very impressive, and she was not in Witch Hunt which was kind of a dud with him. It's possible she lead the lynch on Jeri, but sometimes the most obvious answer is not the right one.


No, you are right.
Princess Sparklefists
Ihave to go to work. GL

ortho_ wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Jerival wrote:

I'll join if this starts next week, definitely cannot do the first week of may.


Yeah!!! Jeri


Amekins wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Amekins, are you friends with jerival IRL or from other games on BGG?


Other games on here, he played the first one a week or two ago and killed it. Hes impressive.


So, if Amy was the force for a Jerival NK, why does she say things like this before the game has started?

What do you guys think?


You're suggesting that this points away from Amekins being a wolf who NK'd Jerival? If so, why?


In my experience with Amy, I find her very direct with what she is saying. I have played games with her, mostly as good. She's pretty easygoing, until someone gets on the attack with her.

Would evil Amy say things like this right before she night kills Jerival? I don't know. I think Amy has things on the surface, which could be a good thing. I don't think she is the most plotting evil, where she would throw out this WIFOM before killing someone. It just doesn't seem like her to me.

I find her a very curious case at the moment. If I didn't know her, I would definitely be voting for her. I just find rereading her somewhat intriguing.


Well, but wasn't that first post made before roles went out? At the time when she said that, all she knew was that she was going to play a game with Jerival.

As for the second post, I don't see why posting that would be alignment indicative either way. Also, it was made after the game started, not prior to the kill.



my post wasnt even alignment related ANYWAY! it was 110% a stinking joke
[vote janiera]
Its at 7 tonight! Woa I can actually be here for lynch!

Scarlett_O wrote:

I'm going to [vote amekins]. I think it's pretty likely that one of her and vanders is probably evil based on their interactions today and she is my best bet out of the two.


Why do you think we can't both be good?
Stone
I don't think Amy uses a ton of psycholgical warfare when she is evil, and I think she can also be set up as an easy mislynch sometimes because she becomes defensive when she is attacked. I think I might want to give her another day.
Stone

Amekins wrote:

Its at 7 tonight! Woa I can actually be here for lynch!


6 BGG time.

stonecutter129 wrote:

I don't think Amy uses a ton of psycholgical warfare when she is evil, and I think she can also be set up as an easy mislynch sometimes because she becomes defensive when she is attacked. I think I might want to give her another day.


"might want to give her another day" sounds like you don't believe me. I don't want another day. I want you all the see that I am not a wolf. I am getting heat and at the top of the tally for NO REASON. I mean literally NO REASON. If you villagers stand by and let me get lynched because I made a joke about waiting for people to start the game then the mod choosing to let 2 deaths occur N0, than that's going to be quite sad.

stonecutter129 wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Its at 7 tonight! Woa I can actually be here for lynch!


6 BGG time.


Oh, sorry. 7 my time.

Amekins wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

I'm going to [vote amekins]. I think it's pretty likely that one of her and vanders is probably evil based on their interactions today and she is my best bet out of the two.


Why do you think we can't both be good?


I do think you both could be good, I just think that your interactions point to one of you probably being evil. I liked Vanders points on the last page about how you've reacted to him being suspicious of you in past games where you were good/evil and how you are acting more like you did when you were evil, in this game. And, you said you thought he was good twice in the last few pages, and then once he voted you, you changed it to you didn't know, which makes it feel like you were trying to read him as good to get him to think you are good, but then once you saw that he was reading you as evil anyway, you switched to "having no idea" about his alignment, which makes it feel like you are gearing up to switch to thinking he is evil since he is suspecting you.

Amekins wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:

I don't think Amy uses a ton of psycholgical warfare when she is evil, and I think she can also be set up as an easy mislynch sometimes because she becomes defensive when she is attacked. I think I might want to give her another day.


"might want to give her another day" sounds like you don't believe me. I don't want another day. I want you all the see that I am not a wolf. I am getting heat and at the top of the tally for NO REASON. I mean literally NO REASON. If you villagers stand by and let me get lynched because I made a joke about waiting for people to start the game then the mod choosing to let 2 deaths occur N0, than that's going to be quite sad.


I don't think anyone is voting you because of that joke. It's your reactions to everything since then that is making people (me, anyway) suspicious.

We still have lots of time before lynch, and you're not in the lead by much. If you are good, focus on finding out who is evil instead of focusing on who thinks you are evil.

You are voting jan... what makes you think she is evil?

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

I'm going to [vote amekins]. I think it's pretty likely that one of her and vanders is probably evil based on their interactions today and she is my best bet out of the two.


Why do you think we can't both be good?


I do think you both could be good, I just think that your interactions point to one of you probably being evil. I liked Vanders points on the last page about how you've reacted to him being suspicious of you in past games where you were good/evil and how you are acting more like you did when you were evil, in this game. And, you said you thought he was good twice in the last few pages, and then once he voted you, you changed it to you didn't know, which makes it feel like you were trying to read him as good to get him to think you are good, but then once you saw that he was reading you as evil anyway, you switched to "having no idea" about his alignment, which makes it feel like you are gearing up to switch to thinking he is evil since he is suspecting you.


That had nothing to do with his vote. it was reading him and the progression over the day on how I felt about him. In the beginning I was more confident he was good. As I have read his responses it seems like I could be wrong. I said I DON'T KNOW. And WHY would me saying I think hes good accusing me make him think I am good? That makes no sense. Like I am reverse reverse psychology-ing him ? Lol... if I feel like i think hes evil I will say so. I have no shits to give on him going after me because my first post was a joke he misinterpreted.

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:

I don't think Amy uses a ton of psycholgical warfare when she is evil, and I think she can also be set up as an easy mislynch sometimes because she becomes defensive when she is attacked. I think I might want to give her another day.


"might want to give her another day" sounds like you don't believe me. I don't want another day. I want you all the see that I am not a wolf. I am getting heat and at the top of the tally for NO REASON. I mean literally NO REASON. If you villagers stand by and let me get lynched because I made a joke about waiting for people to start the game then the mod choosing to let 2 deaths occur N0, than that's going to be quite sad.


I don't think anyone is voting you because of that joke. It's your reactions to everything since then that is making people (me, anyway) suspicious.

We still have lots of time before lynch, and you're not in the lead by much. If you are good, focus on finding out who is evil instead of focusing on who thinks you are evil.

You are voting jan... what makes you think she is evil?


its hard not to when thats ALL YOU GUYS WANT TO TALK ABOUT and are wasting time on me

Amekins wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

I'm going to [vote amekins]. I think it's pretty likely that one of her and vanders is probably evil based on their interactions today and she is my best bet out of the two.


Why do you think we can't both be good?


I do think you both could be good, I just think that your interactions point to one of you probably being evil. I liked Vanders points on the last page about how you've reacted to him being suspicious of you in past games where you were good/evil and how you are acting more like you did when you were evil, in this game. And, you said you thought he was good twice in the last few pages, and then once he voted you, you changed it to you didn't know, which makes it feel like you were trying to read him as good to get him to think you are good, but then once you saw that he was reading you as evil anyway, you switched to "having no idea" about his alignment, which makes it feel like you are gearing up to switch to thinking he is evil since he is suspecting you.


That had nothing to do with his vote. it was reading him and the progression over the day on how I felt about him. In the beginning I was more confident he was good. As I have read his responses it seems like I could be wrong. I said I DON'T KNOW. And WHY would me saying I think hes good accusing me make him think I am good? That makes no sense. Like I am reverse reverse psychology-ing him ? Lol... if I feel like i think hes evil I will say so. I have no shits to give on him going after me because my first post was a joke he misinterpreted.


It just seemed weird to me because there was only like 3 posts in between you saying you thought he was good, then him voting you and you switching to saying you had no idea if he was good or evil.

As for why you saying you think he is good accusing you making him think you are good.... I know that I have been tricked by evils reading me as good and me thinking they are good because of it, lol. Maybe that's not the case for everyone though.
Amy O'Neal

Amekins wrote:

[vote janiera]


Why?

I'm still thinking that Ame and vanders are on opposite teams, but Ame is doing the right things to make me think she is good... So, going with that theory, I'm going to [vote vanders]... But, with Ame voting for me, I'm tempted to change it back...

Amekins wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:

I don't think Amy uses a ton of psycholgical warfare when she is evil, and I think she can also be set up as an easy mislynch sometimes because she becomes defensive when she is attacked. I think I might want to give her another day.


"might want to give her another day" sounds like you don't believe me. I don't want another day. I want you all the see that I am not a wolf. I am getting heat and at the top of the tally for NO REASON. I mean literally NO REASON. If you villagers stand by and let me get lynched because I made a joke about waiting for people to start the game then the mod choosing to let 2 deaths occur N0, than that's going to be quite sad.


I don't think anyone is voting you because of that joke. It's your reactions to everything since then that is making people (me, anyway) suspicious.

We still have lots of time before lynch, and you're not in the lead by much. If you are good, focus on finding out who is evil instead of focusing on who thinks you are evil.

You are voting jan... what makes you think she is evil?


its hard not to when thats ALL YOU GUYS WANT TO TALK ABOUT and are wasting time on me


You may feel like it is wasting time because you know your own alignment. ..but you have to remember that we don't know.

I get that you want to move on from that line of conversation though, and I completely get that, it can be frustrating when people keep bringing the same thing up over and over. I don't think anyone meant to keep harping on the same thing... it's just where the conversation has led to today it seems.

So, in the interest of moving on... why do you think jan is evil?

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

I'm going to [vote amekins]. I think it's pretty likely that one of her and vanders is probably evil based on their interactions today and she is my best bet out of the two.


Why do you think we can't both be good?


I do think you both could be good, I just think that your interactions point to one of you probably being evil. I liked Vanders points on the last page about how you've reacted to him being suspicious of you in past games where you were good/evil and how you are acting more like you did when you were evil, in this game. And, you said you thought he was good twice in the last few pages, and then once he voted you, you changed it to you didn't know, which makes it feel like you were trying to read him as good to get him to think you are good, but then once you saw that he was reading you as evil anyway, you switched to "having no idea" about his alignment, which makes it feel like you are gearing up to switch to thinking he is evil since he is suspecting you.


That had nothing to do with his vote. it was reading him and the progression over the day on how I felt about him. In the beginning I was more confident he was good. As I have read his responses it seems like I could be wrong. I said I DON'T KNOW. And WHY would me saying I think hes good accusing me make him think I am good? That makes no sense. Like I am reverse reverse psychology-ing him ? Lol... if I feel like i think hes evil I will say so. I have no shits to give on him going after me because my first post was a joke he misinterpreted.


It just seemed weird to me because there was only like 3 posts in between you saying you thought he was good, then him voting you and you switching to saying you had no idea if he was good or evil.

As for why you saying you think he is good accusing you making him think you are good.... I know that I have been tricked by evils reading me as good and me thinking they are good because of it, lol. Maybe that's not the case for everyone though.


I still think he is probably good. He gets the wrong impression of me often. ONCE he accused me and I actually was evil and ever since I feel like he does it ALMOST every game. But I am not evil every game and he is wrong way more than he's right. I haven't seen him be evil yet though.

janiera wrote:

Amekins wrote:

[vote janiera]


Why?

I'm still thinking that Ame and vanders are on opposite teams, but Ame is doing the right things to make me think she is good... So, going with that theory, I'm going to [vote vanders]... But, with Ame voting for me, I'm tempted to change it back...


I cant be good and vote for you? You want to vote for me because I voted for you ? Thats not a very good way to catch wolves.

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:

I don't think Amy uses a ton of psycholgical warfare when she is evil, and I think she can also be set up as an easy mislynch sometimes because she becomes defensive when she is attacked. I think I might want to give her another day.


"might want to give her another day" sounds like you don't believe me. I don't want another day. I want you all the see that I am not a wolf. I am getting heat and at the top of the tally for NO REASON. I mean literally NO REASON. If you villagers stand by and let me get lynched because I made a joke about waiting for people to start the game then the mod choosing to let 2 deaths occur N0, than that's going to be quite sad.


I don't think anyone is voting you because of that joke. It's your reactions to everything since then that is making people (me, anyway) suspicious.

We still have lots of time before lynch, and you're not in the lead by much. If you are good, focus on finding out who is evil instead of focusing on who thinks you are evil.

You are voting jan... what makes you think she is evil?


its hard not to when thats ALL YOU GUYS WANT TO TALK ABOUT and are wasting time on me


You may feel like it is wasting time because you know your own alignment. ..but you have to remember that we don't know.

I get that you want to move on from that line of conversation though, and I completely get that, it can be frustrating when people keep bringing the same thing up over and over. I don't think anyone meant to keep harping on the same thing... it's just where the conversation has led to today it seems.

So, in the interest of moving on... why do you think jan is evil?


because shes a question mark to me still and I wanted reactions to a vote on her, which I just got, I have my reasons I don't want to give away all my secrets at once
Stone

Amekins wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:

I don't think Amy uses a ton of psycholgical warfare when she is evil, and I think she can also be set up as an easy mislynch sometimes because she becomes defensive when she is attacked. I think I might want to give her another day.


"might want to give her another day" sounds like you don't believe me. I don't want another day. I want you all the see that I am not a wolf. I am getting heat and at the top of the tally for NO REASON. I mean literally NO REASON. If you villagers stand by and let me get lynched because I made a joke about waiting for people to start the game then the mod choosing to let 2 deaths occur N0, than that's going to be quite sad.


You're right I do tend to believe you, but I am not sold that Vanders is evil. I think you can be an easy target sometimes.

Amekins wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:

I don't think Amy uses a ton of psycholgical warfare when she is evil, and I think she can also be set up as an easy mislynch sometimes because she becomes defensive when she is attacked. I think I might want to give her another day.


"might want to give her another day" sounds like you don't believe me. I don't want another day. I want you all the see that I am not a wolf. I am getting heat and at the top of the tally for NO REASON. I mean literally NO REASON. If you villagers stand by and let me get lynched because I made a joke about waiting for people to start the game then the mod choosing to let 2 deaths occur N0, than that's going to be quite sad.


I don't think anyone is voting you because of that joke. It's your reactions to everything since then that is making people (me, anyway) suspicious.

We still have lots of time before lynch, and you're not in the lead by much. If you are good, focus on finding out who is evil instead of focusing on who thinks you are evil.

You are voting jan... what makes you think she is evil?


its hard not to when thats ALL YOU GUYS WANT TO TALK ABOUT and are wasting time on me


You may feel like it is wasting time because you know your own alignment. ..but you have to remember that we don't know.

I get that you want to move on from that line of conversation though, and I completely get that, it can be frustrating when people keep bringing the same thing up over and over. I don't think anyone meant to keep harping on the same thing... it's just where the conversation has led to today it seems.

So, in the interest of moving on... why do you think jan is evil?


because shes a question mark to me still and I wanted reactions to a vote on her, which I just got, I have my reasons I don't want to give away all my secrets at once


I mean, that's fine. But it's hard to talk about other people besides you being evil when you won't say why you think people are evil. Lol.

So, you said you got your reaction to your vote... do you still think she is evil based on that reaction?

stonecutter129 wrote:

Amekins wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:

I don't think Amy uses a ton of psycholgical warfare when she is evil, and I think she can also be set up as an easy mislynch sometimes because she becomes defensive when she is attacked. I think I might want to give her another day.


"might want to give her another day" sounds like you don't believe me. I don't want another day. I want you all the see that I am not a wolf. I am getting heat and at the top of the tally for NO REASON. I mean literally NO REASON. If you villagers stand by and let me get lynched because I made a joke about waiting for people to start the game then the mod choosing to let 2 deaths occur N0, than that's going to be quite sad.


You're right I do tend to believe you, but I am not sold that Vanders is evil. I think you can be an easy target sometimes.


I am often an easy target, sometimes the village does it to themselves and evil just has to sit back and laugh. So far I don't see evil Vanders. But I don't see shiny Vanders either.
Amy O'Neal

Amekins wrote:

janiera wrote:

Amekins wrote:

[vote janiera]


Why?

I'm still thinking that Ame and vanders are on opposite teams, but Ame is doing the right things to make me think she is good... So, going with that theory, I'm going to [vote vanders]... But, with Ame voting for me, I'm tempted to change it back...


I cant be good and vote for you? You want to vote for me because I voted for you ? Thats not a very good way to catch wolves.


I said tempted... Did I change it back? I'm not planning to, but, when anyone votes for me, I'm always tempted to vote for them... I listen to the logical side saying that's not necessarily a good idea...

But your answer doesn't say WHY you are voting for me... That's what I want to know... And you've been asked twice and haven't answered it yet...

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:

I don't think Amy uses a ton of psycholgical warfare when she is evil, and I think she can also be set up as an easy mislynch sometimes because she becomes defensive when she is attacked. I think I might want to give her another day.


"might want to give her another day" sounds like you don't believe me. I don't want another day. I want you all the see that I am not a wolf. I am getting heat and at the top of the tally for NO REASON. I mean literally NO REASON. If you villagers stand by and let me get lynched because I made a joke about waiting for people to start the game then the mod choosing to let 2 deaths occur N0, than that's going to be quite sad.


I don't think anyone is voting you because of that joke. It's your reactions to everything since then that is making people (me, anyway) suspicious.

We still have lots of time before lynch, and you're not in the lead by much. If you are good, focus on finding out who is evil instead of focusing on who thinks you are evil.

You are voting jan... what makes you think she is evil?


its hard not to when thats ALL YOU GUYS WANT TO TALK ABOUT and are wasting time on me


You may feel like it is wasting time because you know your own alignment. ..but you have to remember that we don't know.

I get that you want to move on from that line of conversation though, and I completely get that, it can be frustrating when people keep bringing the same thing up over and over. I don't think anyone meant to keep harping on the same thing... it's just where the conversation has led to today it seems.

So, in the interest of moving on... why do you think jan is evil?


because shes a question mark to me still and I wanted reactions to a vote on her, which I just got, I have my reasons I don't want to give away all my secrets at once


I mean, that's fine. But it's hard to talk about other people besides you being evil when you won't say why you think people are evil. Lol.

So, you said you got your reaction to your vote... do you still think she is evil based on that reaction?


I didnt actually think she was evil UNTIL the reaction.
Stone

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:

I don't think Amy uses a ton of psycholgical warfare when she is evil, and I think she can also be set up as an easy mislynch sometimes because she becomes defensive when she is attacked. I think I might want to give her another day.


"might want to give her another day" sounds like you don't believe me. I don't want another day. I want you all the see that I am not a wolf. I am getting heat and at the top of the tally for NO REASON. I mean literally NO REASON. If you villagers stand by and let me get lynched because I made a joke about waiting for people to start the game then the mod choosing to let 2 deaths occur N0, than that's going to be quite sad.


I don't think anyone is voting you because of that joke. It's your reactions to everything since then that is making people (me, anyway) suspicious.

We still have lots of time before lynch, and you're not in the lead by much. If you are good, focus on finding out who is evil instead of focusing on who thinks you are evil.

You are voting jan... what makes you think she is evil?


I just feel like she gets naturally defensive sometimes.

Could she be setting me up right now, maybe, but I think she is the easy target right now.

janiera wrote:

Amekins wrote:

janiera wrote:

Amekins wrote:

[vote janiera]


Why?

I'm still thinking that Ame and vanders are on opposite teams, but Ame is doing the right things to make me think she is good... So, going with that theory, I'm going to [vote vanders]... But, with Ame voting for me, I'm tempted to change it back...


I cant be good and vote for you? You want to vote for me because I voted for you ? Thats not a very good way to catch wolves.


I said tempted... Did I change it back? I'm not planning to, but, when anyone votes for me, I'm always tempted to vote for them... I listen to the logical side saying that's not necessarily a good idea...

But your answer doesn't say WHY you are voting for me... That's what I want to know... And you've been asked twice and haven't answered it yet...


I did say it. I randomly voted for you to get reactions.

stonecutter129 wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:

I don't think Amy uses a ton of psycholgical warfare when she is evil, and I think she can also be set up as an easy mislynch sometimes because she becomes defensive when she is attacked. I think I might want to give her another day.


"might want to give her another day" sounds like you don't believe me. I don't want another day. I want you all the see that I am not a wolf. I am getting heat and at the top of the tally for NO REASON. I mean literally NO REASON. If you villagers stand by and let me get lynched because I made a joke about waiting for people to start the game then the mod choosing to let 2 deaths occur N0, than that's going to be quite sad.


I don't think anyone is voting you because of that joke. It's your reactions to everything since then that is making people (me, anyway) suspicious.

We still have lots of time before lynch, and you're not in the lead by much. If you are good, focus on finding out who is evil instead of focusing on who thinks you are evil.

You are voting jan... what makes you think she is evil?


I just feel like she gets naturally defensive sometimes.

Could she be setting me up right now, maybe, but I think she is the easy target right now.


OR you are evil and know I am good so you're using me to get brownie points.
Amy O'Neal
[tally]

Amekins wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:

I don't think Amy uses a ton of psycholgical warfare when she is evil, and I think she can also be set up as an easy mislynch sometimes because she becomes defensive when she is attacked. I think I might want to give her another day.


"might want to give her another day" sounds like you don't believe me. I don't want another day. I want you all the see that I am not a wolf. I am getting heat and at the top of the tally for NO REASON. I mean literally NO REASON. If you villagers stand by and let me get lynched because I made a joke about waiting for people to start the game then the mod choosing to let 2 deaths occur N0, than that's going to be quite sad.


I don't think anyone is voting you because of that joke. It's your reactions to everything since then that is making people (me, anyway) suspicious.

We still have lots of time before lynch, and you're not in the lead by much. If you are good, focus on finding out who is evil instead of focusing on who thinks you are evil.

You are voting jan... what makes you think she is evil?


I just feel like she gets naturally defensive sometimes.

Could she be setting me up right now, maybe, but I think she is the easy target right now.


OR you are evil and know I am good so you're using me to get brownie points.


OR you're both evil and he's trying to make sure y'all get 2 more kills tonight!

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:

I don't think Amy uses a ton of psycholgical warfare when she is evil, and I think she can also be set up as an easy mislynch sometimes because she becomes defensive when she is attacked. I think I might want to give her another day.


"might want to give her another day" sounds like you don't believe me. I don't want another day. I want you all the see that I am not a wolf. I am getting heat and at the top of the tally for NO REASON. I mean literally NO REASON. If you villagers stand by and let me get lynched because I made a joke about waiting for people to start the game then the mod choosing to let 2 deaths occur N0, than that's going to be quite sad.


I don't think anyone is voting you because of that joke. It's your reactions to everything since then that is making people (me, anyway) suspicious.

We still have lots of time before lynch, and you're not in the lead by much. If you are good, focus on finding out who is evil instead of focusing on who thinks you are evil.

You are voting jan... what makes you think she is evil?


I just feel like she gets naturally defensive sometimes.

Could she be setting me up right now, maybe, but I think she is the easy target right now.


OR you are evil and know I am good so you're using me to get brownie points.


OR you're both evil and he's trying to make sure y'all get 2 more kills tonight!


Omg we are all paranoid
[vote stone]
Stone

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:

I don't think Amy uses a ton of psycholgical warfare when she is evil, and I think she can also be set up as an easy mislynch sometimes because she becomes defensive when she is attacked. I think I might want to give her another day.


"might want to give her another day" sounds like you don't believe me. I don't want another day. I want you all the see that I am not a wolf. I am getting heat and at the top of the tally for NO REASON. I mean literally NO REASON. If you villagers stand by and let me get lynched because I made a joke about waiting for people to start the game then the mod choosing to let 2 deaths occur N0, than that's going to be quite sad.


I don't think anyone is voting you because of that joke. It's your reactions to everything since then that is making people (me, anyway) suspicious.

We still have lots of time before lynch, and you're not in the lead by much. If you are good, focus on finding out who is evil instead of focusing on who thinks you are evil.

You are voting jan... what makes you think she is evil?


I just feel like she gets naturally defensive sometimes.

Could she be setting me up right now, maybe, but I think she is the easy target right now.


OR you are evil and know I am good so you're using me to get brownie points.


OR you're both evil and he's trying to make sure y'all get 2 more kills tonight!


I don't think evil Stone puts his head out to defend evil Ames, knowing that Ames could still get lynched and I look terrible.
Amy O'Neal

stonecutter129 wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:

I don't think Amy uses a ton of psycholgical warfare when she is evil, and I think she can also be set up as an easy mislynch sometimes because she becomes defensive when she is attacked. I think I might want to give her another day.


"might want to give her another day" sounds like you don't believe me. I don't want another day. I want you all the see that I am not a wolf. I am getting heat and at the top of the tally for NO REASON. I mean literally NO REASON. If you villagers stand by and let me get lynched because I made a joke about waiting for people to start the game then the mod choosing to let 2 deaths occur N0, than that's going to be quite sad.


I don't think anyone is voting you because of that joke. It's your reactions to everything since then that is making people (me, anyway) suspicious.

We still have lots of time before lynch, and you're not in the lead by much. If you are good, focus on finding out who is evil instead of focusing on who thinks you are evil.

You are voting jan... what makes you think she is evil?


I just feel like she gets naturally defensive sometimes.

Could she be setting me up right now, maybe, but I think she is the easy target right now.


OR you are evil and know I am good so you're using me to get brownie points.


OR you're both evil and he's trying to make sure y'all get 2 more kills tonight!


I don't think evil Stone puts his head out to defend evil Ames, knowing that Ames could still get lynched and I look terrible.


It's possible, since the priest only gets to view 1 person who is dead, not all of them... It would be a problem only if Ame were viewed by the priest after being lynched...
Greg Wilson

Amekins wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

OR you're both evil and he's trying to make sure y'all get 2 more kills tonight!


Omg we are all paranoid


There's a possibly-important point hiding in there, though. In this roleset early mislynches are worse than usual because of the double kill. Not sure how much that'll affect evil behaviour, though.
Greg Wilson
I'm leaning towards Ame as frustrated good. But I've also been in the position of being an evil who gets caught because of something random or unrelated, and that can be really infuriating.
Amy O'Neal
As an addendum... We would also be able to tell if there are all the wolves left or if one was killed by the number of nk's there will be tonight... That's what happened in the last iteration of this game...
Greg Wilson

janiera wrote:

As an addendum... We would also be able to tell if there are all the wolves left or if one was killed by the number of nk's there will be tonight... That's what happened in the last iteration of this game...


Except for the vigilante and bodyguard confusing matters.

BlackSheep wrote:

I'm leaning towards Ame as frustrated good. But I've also been in the position of being an evil who gets caught because of something random or unrelated, and that can be really infuriating.


That isn't what happened. I am good. I don't like being misinterpreted, especially what I was trying to say getting twisted. it was my first post and an innocent joke. Of course im going to get annoyed with him for trying to not only RUIN my hilarious joke, but try to accuse me as evil for it.
Jim Ryan

janiera wrote:

-snip-

It's possible, since the priest only gets to view 1 person who is dead, not all of them... It would be a problem only if Ame were viewed by the priest after being lynched...


Is there a priest in this set? I only saw alignment seer, bodyguard and vig.
Jim Ryan
err... alliance seer rather.
Amy O'Neal

jimryan1 wrote:

janiera wrote:

-snip-

It's possible, since the priest only gets to view 1 person who is dead, not all of them... It would be a problem only if Ame were viewed by the priest after being lynched...


Is there a priest in this set? I only saw alignment seer, bodyguard and vig.


Sorry, was confusing it with the other game I played at the same time... The reason I don't like being in two games at once... You are correct, sir...
Cassandra Project
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Player (13/15) - # - Voted by

stonecutter129 - 3 - PaperF(8), AlwaysIdle(11), Scarlett_O(26)
BerenCamlost - 2 - Jimryan1(16), stonecutter129(17)
FaleohFang - 2 - BlackSheep(15), BerenCamlost(20)
janiera - 2 - FaleohFang(4) , Floofies(6), Amekins(24)
Vanderscamp - 2 - ortho_(9) , FaleohFang(18), janiera(25)
Amekins - 1 - janiera(2) , FaleohFang(3) , Vanderscamp(12) , Vanderscamp(21), Scarlett_O(22)
AlwaysIdle - 1 - ortho_(23)
Scarlett_O - 0 - ortho_(13)
ortho_ - 0 - PaperF(1) , Vanderscamp(10)
PaperF - 0 - Jimryan1(5) , stonecutter129(7) , BerenCamlost(14)
Jimryan1 - 0 - ortho_(19)

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Voter - # - Voted on

AlwaysIdle - 1 - stonecutter129(11)
Amekins - 1 - janiera(24)
BerenCamlost - 2 - PaperF(14) , FaleohFang(20)
BlackSheep - 1 - FaleohFang(15)
FaleohFang - 3 - Amekins(3) , janiera(4) , Vanderscamp(18)
Floofies - 1 - janiera(6)
janiera - 2 - Amekins(2) , Vanderscamp(25)
Jimryan1 - 2 - PaperF(5) , BerenCamlost(16)
ortho_ - 4 - Vanderscamp(9) , Scarlett_O(13) , Jimryan1(19) , AlwaysIdle(23)
PaperF - 2 - ortho_(1) , stonecutter129(8)
Scarlett_O - 2 - Amekins(22) , stonecutter129(26)
stonecutter129 - 2 - PaperF(7) , BerenCamlost(17)
Vanderscamp - 3 - ortho_(10) , Amekins(12) , Amekins(21)

Not Voting: N/A
Jim Ryan
Sorry for being in and out today, its going to be a rough week for me to be as active as I'd like during work hours, but I should be around for the critical times running up to lynch.

I'd like to add pressure to FaFang and see what more she has to say, but it looks like that won't really do anything since she is working up thru lynch, so instead I'll join ortho in asking
[vote Always]
to come give us some input.

stonecutter129 wrote:


I don't think evil Stone puts his head out to defend evil Ames, knowing that Ames could still get lynched and I look terrible.


This was sort of straightened out, but to emphasize so everyone is on the same page:


This is no reveal, and there is no priest. No one is going to know much of anything in this game for sure.

Generally, I'd expect less bussing in this game than in most games on this site. #1, evil wants their double kill for as long as possible. #2, no reveals means it will never fully be known whether someone is good or evil even after lynches, so the downside of defending an evil is lessened.
Lisa

ortho_ wrote:

[vote always]. Where are you? Any thoughts on the game so far?


Sorry I've had a bit of a crazy day, I'm just reading over everything now

ortho_ wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:


I don't think evil Stone puts his head out to defend evil Ames, knowing that Ames could still get lynched and I look terrible.


This was sort of straightened out, but to emphasize so everyone is on the same page:


This is no reveal, and there is no priest. No one is going to know much of anything in this game for sure.

Generally, I'd expect less bussing in this game than in most games on this site. #1, evil wants their double kill for as long as possible. #2, no reveals means it will never fully be known whether someone is good or evil even after lynches, so the downside of defending an evil is lessened.


oh thats right. bah. And how do we get rid of their double kill?
Lisa
I'm leaning kind of good on stone and jan, I've played with them both evil and they're sounding a bit different this game.

jimryan1 wrote:

Sorry for being in and out today, its going to be a rough week for me to be as active as I'd like during work hours, but I should be around for the critical times running up to lynch.

I'd like to add pressure to FaFang and see what more she has to say, but it looks like that won't really do anything since she is working up thru lynch, so instead I'll join ortho in asking
[vote Always]
to come give us some input.


I wish FaleohFang would have left some thoughts or reads or something before leaving.

Amekins wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:


I don't think evil Stone puts his head out to defend evil Ames, knowing that Ames could still get lynched and I look terrible.


This was sort of straightened out, but to emphasize so everyone is on the same page:


This is no reveal, and there is no priest. No one is going to know much of anything in this game for sure.

Generally, I'd expect less bussing in this game than in most games on this site. #1, evil wants their double kill for as long as possible. #2, no reveals means it will never fully be known whether someone is good or evil even after lynches, so the downside of defending an evil is lessened.


oh thats right. bah. And how do we get rid of their double kill?


Kill a wolf!

Amekins wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:


I don't think evil Stone puts his head out to defend evil Ames, knowing that Ames could still get lynched and I look terrible.


This was sort of straightened out, but to emphasize so everyone is on the same page:


This is no reveal, and there is no priest. No one is going to know much of anything in this game for sure.

Generally, I'd expect less bussing in this game than in most games on this site. #1, evil wants their double kill for as long as possible. #2, no reveals means it will never fully be known whether someone is good or evil even after lynches, so the downside of defending an evil is lessened.


oh thats right. bah. And how do we get rid of their double kill?


Kill one of them.
Paper Luis

BerenCamlost wrote:

Hello all!

[Vote Paper]

He's always evil!
Not this time, my friend!
Paper Luis

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Hi! I am SUPER glad we found those extra two people to sign up, just to kill them immediately!

[vote Royal]

??


I got the impression from this that you were talking about them as the "extra two people".


yes, I sit there and pay that much attention to who signed up for the game last. I dont even know who the 15 are that are in THIS game. I just know youre here because you are hassling me, and I know Blacksheep is here because I dont play with him often. And Jan because her name is also Amy. Oh and I know Ortho is here because I always pay attention to Ortho. Everyone else. No idea yet. We JUST started.
I'm ghost. OOooooOoooO

BlackSheep wrote:

janiera wrote:

As an addendum... We would also be able to tell if there are all the wolves left or if one was killed by the number of nk's there will be tonight... That's what happened in the last iteration of this game...


Except for the vigilante and bodyguard confusing matters.


Also, there's a (probably pretty small) possibility of the wolves double killing the same person in order to trick us.
Paper Luis

Scarlett_O wrote:

PaperF wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

PaperF wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

I also think it's pretty unlikely that wolves killed randomly.
Why?


Because I don't think it's likely that three wolves would be that afraid that the kills would point to them, instead of just choosing a kill or two that they think wouldn't point to them.
I think at least ortho or you would have been the one of the kills, which is why I dont think it was chosen, unless you guys are wolves. But yeah, I like what Amekims just found out.


Why do you think they would be the kills?
They are a nightmare as good.

ortho_ wrote:

Amekins wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:


I don't think evil Stone puts his head out to defend evil Ames, knowing that Ames could still get lynched and I look terrible.


This was sort of straightened out, but to emphasize so everyone is on the same page:


This is no reveal, and there is no priest. No one is going to know much of anything in this game for sure.

Generally, I'd expect less bussing in this game than in most games on this site. #1, evil wants their double kill for as long as possible. #2, no reveals means it will never fully be known whether someone is good or evil even after lynches, so the downside of defending an evil is lessened.


oh thats right. bah. And how do we get rid of their double kill?


Kill a wolf!


Ok, lets do it.

PaperF wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Hi! I am SUPER glad we found those extra two people to sign up, just to kill them immediately!

[vote Royal]

??


I got the impression from this that you were talking about them as the "extra two people".


yes, I sit there and pay that much attention to who signed up for the game last. I dont even know who the 15 are that are in THIS game. I just know youre here because you are hassling me, and I know Blacksheep is here because I dont play with him often. And Jan because her name is also Amy. Oh and I know Ortho is here because I always pay attention to Ortho. Everyone else. No idea yet. We JUST started.
I'm ghost. OOooooOoooO


I'm laughing way too hard at this. laugh
Paper Luis

stonecutter129 wrote:

PaperF wrote:

PaperF wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:

Someone mentioned a rainbows game, and it just made me think about the other rainbows game.

[vote paper]
Are you evil? Why do you have to follow the vote? Ortho was evil too, and you're piling onto me? Interesting choice!
Stone, could you clarify this? Why?


It's a meta vote. You picked wrong in the final 3 in rainbows. I wasn't in the last rainbows game, it was the one before with me you and Chrono I was referencing
I was good that time though!!! Oh yeah, I lynched you.

Scarlett_O wrote:

BlackSheep wrote:

janiera wrote:

As an addendum... We would also be able to tell if there are all the wolves left or if one was killed by the number of nk's there will be tonight... That's what happened in the last iteration of this game...


Except for the vigilante and bodyguard confusing matters.


Also, there's a (probably pretty small) possibility of the wolves double killing the same person in order to trick us.


Whaaat?

PaperF wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Hi! I am SUPER glad we found those extra two people to sign up, just to kill them immediately!

[vote Royal]

??


I got the impression from this that you were talking about them as the "extra two people".


yes, I sit there and pay that much attention to who signed up for the game last. I dont even know who the 15 are that are in THIS game. I just know youre here because you are hassling me, and I know Blacksheep is here because I dont play with him often. And Jan because her name is also Amy. Oh and I know Ortho is here because I always pay attention to Ortho. Everyone else. No idea yet. We JUST started.
I'm ghost. OOooooOoooO


Stop! you're scaring me!
Paper Luis

stonecutter129 wrote:

So, the two games I played with Jerival recently, he was evil both times.

In Single Serving 28, we had a conversation in dead chat about how impressive Jerival looked. NoLemon posted some impressive posts about him, and a lot of people in dead chat at the time complimented him. He played a really good game.

In Witch Hunt 2, he kind of got shafted over by some bad decisions and some bad luck as well. Paper was knocked out early, and I don't think Apple did any favors fake clearing him. It wasn't his best game. I just had a game like that recently, and there wasn't a ton to be done about it, and I get it.

I think the people in Single Serving 28 had a rather high opinion of Jerival, and I don't think people in Witch Hunt 2, would have the same opinion of a newbie.

People in Single Serving 28 in this game:
AlwaysIdle,
Amekins
Beren
NoLemon modded (obvious good)
Paper
Stone
Vanderscamp

People in Witch Hunt 2 with Jerival:
Beren
Faleoh
Paper
Stone
Vanderscamp

People in only Single Serving with Jerival:
AlwaysIdle
Amekins

People only in Witch Hunt 2 with Jerival:

Faleoh

So long story short, I think either AlwaysIdle or Amy could have a higher opinion of Jerival than the others. This could not mean anything, but it might mean something. Ames was in dead chat when we were talking about Jerival, AlwaysIdle lasted the game.
I wouldn't put too much thought into the kills. There could be a lot of WIFOM in the kills, so I'm not going to take my lynch decision into it.
Paper Luis

jimryan1 wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

jimryan1 wrote:

I like Scarlett's entrance. I have no clue how to read Vanders but I like the questions he has asked so far. I also really like Paper today.
I could [vote Beren]
Hi! we've never played together before I don't think.


Why do you say you have no clue how to read me?


Because no matter how many games I've read with you in them, I just plain suck at calling your alignment. I've simply never figured out any of your "tells".
Want some help? He's evil in this game. [vote vanders]

Amekins wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

BlackSheep wrote:

janiera wrote:

As an addendum... We would also be able to tell if there are all the wolves left or if one was killed by the number of nk's there will be tonight... That's what happened in the last iteration of this game...


Except for the vigilante and bodyguard confusing matters.


Also, there's a (probably pretty small) possibility of the wolves double killing the same person in order to trick us.


Whaaat?


What I mean is, the wolves could hypothetically double NK the same person tonight so it looks like whoever we lynch was a wolf and there are only 2 left when, in fact, there would still be 3.

Doubt that they would waste a NK just to trick us when there is such a high chance that one out of the three could be lynched d2 and they'd not get to double kill again, but thought it was worth mentioning.
Paper Luis

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

jimryan1 wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Jimryan, do you have any evil reads at this point?


No. At this point I like Paper, Scarlett and Vanders. I've seen Ame be this defensive as good, but I don't know that I've ever seen or read evil Ame, so I'm looking elsewhere today.
I'm not sure where I lean yet on you, suffice it to say Rainbow is still foremost in my thoughts when it comes to you and Paper!

I don't know what to make of stone and FaFang yet. I wrote down that I had a little ping from stone leaving Paper right after I did, but I can't even remember why and on reread I don't see whatever I saw before.



I think Jim is good.


That post sounds pretty good. What do you think of blacksheep so far?


I like PaperF and Scarlett. I liked a post stonecutter made earlier - the one about all the people who've played with jerival. It's easy, but I think for a lot of players effort stuff like that happens more as good than evil. Janiera didn't scare me with her early stuff.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to find an evil in your and Amekins.


After that it's just a bunch of low posters. So is the wolf team Amekins/Vander and 2 of floofies/beren/alwaysidle/faleoh? Or is it more difficult than that?
Why do you think I'm good?
Paper Luis

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:


I don't have strong thoughts on Blacksheep, why do you like Jan?


She felt pretty relaxed and natural to me with her posts so far. I think she's a little more self-conscious when she's evil. Take a look at Hi 131, a game which just concluded and she was a wolf. I see a tonal contrast.


I've read through some of her games and I'm afraid I don't see it..


OK, feel free to continue to be suspicious. I don't have her down as a lock good, but I think her posts so far seemed more good!janiera.

PaperF, what do you think of Janiera so far?
Neutral at most.
Paper Luis

jimryan1 wrote:

BerenCamlost wrote:

jimryan1 wrote:

I like Scarlett's entrance. I have no clue how to read Vanders but I like the questions he has asked so far. I also really like Paper today.
I could [vote Beren]
Hi! we've never played together before I don't think.


Hi Jim! We have played together. I was in the last Rainbow with you.


blush
You would think I would have remembered, but all I recall from that game was my blunder at the end stringing up Benes, and how well ortho and Paper did at fooling me. Now that you say it, I remember how much people were mixing up you and Benes.
Ortho and me are wolves ready to trick you again!

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

BlackSheep wrote:

janiera wrote:

As an addendum... We would also be able to tell if there are all the wolves left or if one was killed by the number of nk's there will be tonight... That's what happened in the last iteration of this game...


Except for the vigilante and bodyguard confusing matters.


Also, there's a (probably pretty small) possibility of the wolves double killing the same person in order to trick us.


Whaaat?


What I mean is, the wolves could hypothetically double NK the same person tonight so it looks like whoever we lynch was a wolf and there are only 2 left when, in fact, there would still be 3.

Doubt that they would waste a NK just to trick us when there is such a high chance that one out of the three could be lynched d2 and they'd not get to double kill again, but thought it was worth mentioning.


Ohh apparently I am slow as hell. I read it twice and now I see what you are saying. Nah, I dont see any wolves giving up a kill.
Cassandra Project
VOTE TALLY

Player (13/15) - # - Voted by

Vanderscamp - 3 - ortho_(9) , FaleohFang(18), janiera(25), PaperF(28)
FaleohFang - 2 - BlackSheep(15), BerenCamlost(20)
janiera - 2 - FaleohFang(4) , Floofies(6), Amekins(24)
stonecutter129 - 2 - PaperF(8) , AlwaysIdle(11), Scarlett_O(26)
AlwaysIdle - 2 - ortho_(23), Jimryan1(27)
BerenCamlost - 1 - Jimryan1(16) , stonecutter129(17)
Amekins - 1 - janiera(2) , FaleohFang(3) , Vanderscamp(12) , Vanderscamp(21), Scarlett_O(22)
Scarlett_O - 0 - ortho_(13)
ortho_ - 0 - PaperF(1) , Vanderscamp(10)
PaperF - 0 - Jimryan1(5) , stonecutter129(7) , BerenCamlost(14)
Jimryan1 - 0 - ortho_(19)

Not Voting: N/A


Nightfall votes are denoted by an '*' after the player's name.

Your Moderator has chosen to use the Longest Held Last Vote method for a tiebreaker - This is just for Cassandra system, and there may be a different tiebreaker specified by your Moderator in the ruleset.

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Voter - # - Voted on

AlwaysIdle - 1 - stonecutter129(11)
Amekins - 1 - janiera(24)
BerenCamlost - 2 - PaperF(14) , FaleohFang(20)
BlackSheep - 1 - FaleohFang(15)
FaleohFang - 3 - Amekins(3) , janiera(4) , Vanderscamp(18)
Floofies - 1 - janiera(6)
janiera - 2 - Amekins(2) , Vanderscamp(25)
Jimryan1 - 3 - PaperF(5) , BerenCamlost(16) , AlwaysIdle(27)
ortho_ - 4 - Vanderscamp(9) , Scarlett_O(13) , Jimryan1(19) , AlwaysIdle(23)
PaperF - 3 - ortho_(1) , stonecutter129(8) , Vanderscamp(28)
Scarlett_O - 2 - Amekins(22) , stonecutter129(26)
stonecutter129 - 2 - PaperF(7) , BerenCamlost(17)
Vanderscamp - 3 - ortho_(10) , Amekins(12) , Amekins(21)

Not Voting: N/A
Paper Luis

stonecutter129 wrote:

I don't think Amy uses a ton of psycholgical warfare when she is evil, and I think she can also be set up as an easy mislynch sometimes because she becomes defensive when she is attacked. I think I might want to give her another day.
I agree here. Good points for stone.

PaperF wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:

I don't think Amy uses a ton of psycholgical warfare when she is evil, and I think she can also be set up as an easy mislynch sometimes because she becomes defensive when she is attacked. I think I might want to give her another day.
I agree here. Good points for stone.


psycholgical warfare is not my thing
Paper Luis
Ame, reads?

PaperF wrote:

Ame, reads?


Anyone in particular?

PaperF wrote:

Why do you think I'm good?


You came out firing bullets. That's usually good!paperF.
Paper Luis

ortho_ wrote:

PaperF wrote:

Why do you think I'm good?


You came out firing bullets. That's usually good!paperF.
But I'm evil!
Paper Luis

Amekins wrote:

PaperF wrote:

Ame, reads?


Anyone in particular?
Evil reads. Any?
Jim Ryan

PaperF wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:


I don't have strong thoughts on Blacksheep, why do you like Jan?


She felt pretty relaxed and natural to me with her posts so far. I think she's a little more self-conscious when she's evil. Take a look at Hi 131, a game which just concluded and she was a wolf. I see a tonal contrast.


I've read through some of her games and I'm afraid I don't see it..


OK, feel free to continue to be suspicious. I don't have her down as a lock good, but I think her posts so far seemed more good!janiera.

PaperF, what do you think of Janiera so far?
Neutral at most.


Paper, with your reputation as a Jan whisperer, this is practically calling a hit on her! Is this a "needs time" thing or an actual absence of Good!Jan?

PaperF wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

PaperF wrote:

Why do you think I'm good?


You came out firing bullets. That's usually good!paperF.
But I'm evil!


Dammit! My reads are always so bad. cry

PaperF wrote:

Amekins wrote:

PaperF wrote:

Ame, reads?


Anyone in particular?
Evil reads. Any?


oh i was hoping you wouldn't ask that. I have pluses, minuses are harder. Jan of course after that response to my vote. But who knows if that's good. Half the people haven't shown up yet. I don't like scarlett's piggyback vote onto me after Vanders was after me then voted for me. She voted right after. Left a bad taste in my mouth.
Lisa

PaperF wrote:

jimryan1 wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

jimryan1 wrote:

I like Scarlett's entrance. I have no clue how to read Vanders but I like the questions he has asked so far. I also really like Paper today.
I could [vote Beren]
Hi! we've never played together before I don't think.


Why do you say you have no clue how to read me?


Because no matter how many games I've read with you in them, I just plain suck at calling your alignment. I've simply never figured out any of your "tells".
Want some help? He's evil in this game. [vote vanders]


Why do you you think so? His and Ame's dicussion does make it seem like one of them might be evil, but anything other than that?

AlwaysIdle wrote:

PaperF wrote:

jimryan1 wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

jimryan1 wrote:

I like Scarlett's entrance. I have no clue how to read Vanders but I like the questions he has asked so far. I also really like Paper today.
I could [vote Beren]
Hi! we've never played together before I don't think.


Why do you say you have no clue how to read me?


Because no matter how many games I've read with you in them, I just plain suck at calling your alignment. I've simply never figured out any of your "tells".
Want some help? He's evil in this game. [vote vanders]


Why do you you think so? His and Ame's dicussion does make it seem like one of them might be evil, but anything other than that?


If one of us is evil it's him
Paper Luis

jimryan1 wrote:

PaperF wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:


I don't have strong thoughts on Blacksheep, why do you like Jan?


She felt pretty relaxed and natural to me with her posts so far. I think she's a little more self-conscious when she's evil. Take a look at Hi 131, a game which just concluded and she was a wolf. I see a tonal contrast.


I've read through some of her games and I'm afraid I don't see it..


OK, feel free to continue to be suspicious. I don't have her down as a lock good, but I think her posts so far seemed more good!janiera.

PaperF, what do you think of Janiera so far?
Neutral at most.


Paper, with your reputation as a Jan whisperer, this is practically calling a hit on her! Is this a "needs time" thing or an actual absence of Good!Jan?
There's still no content that says she's good, but, I'm afraid to call a "she's evil" and be wrong. I would rather wait and see what she has to offer. If there's something off, I'll let you guys know.
Paper Luis

Amekins wrote:

PaperF wrote:

Amekins wrote:

PaperF wrote:

Ame, reads?


Anyone in particular?
Evil reads. Any?


oh i was hoping you wouldn't ask that. I have pluses, minuses are harder. Jan of course after that response to my vote. But who knows if that's good. Half the people haven't shown up yet. I don't like scarlett's piggyback vote onto me after Vanders was after me then voted for me. She voted right after. Left a bad taste in my mouth.
Hmmm.
Lisa

Amekins wrote:

AlwaysIdle wrote:

PaperF wrote:

jimryan1 wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

jimryan1 wrote:

I like Scarlett's entrance. I have no clue how to read Vanders but I like the questions he has asked so far. I also really like Paper today.
I could [vote Beren]
Hi! we've never played together before I don't think.


Why do you say you have no clue how to read me?


Because no matter how many games I've read with you in them, I just plain suck at calling your alignment. I've simply never figured out any of your "tells".
Want some help? He's evil in this game. [vote vanders]


Why do you you think so? His and Ame's dicussion does make it seem like one of them might be evil, but anything other than that?


If one of us is evil it's him


Yeah maybe, I find both of you hard to read, as far as I've seen you're very defensive and Vanders is aggressive and both of those always seem kind of wolfy.

Amekins wrote:

PaperF wrote:

Amekins wrote:

PaperF wrote:

Ame, reads?


Anyone in particular?
Evil reads. Any?


oh i was hoping you wouldn't ask that. I have pluses, minuses are harder. Jan of course after that response to my vote. But who knows if that's good. Half the people haven't shown up yet. I don't like scarlett's piggyback vote onto me after Vanders was after me then voted for me. She voted right after. Left a bad taste in my mouth.


Why? He posted a reason that I liked, I went back and re-read you and found another thing that seemed off to me, plus your reactions to vanders questions/posts were weird to me, so I voted you.
Amy O'Neal

jimryan1 wrote:

PaperF wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:


I don't have strong thoughts on Blacksheep, why do you like Jan?


She felt pretty relaxed and natural to me with her posts so far. I think she's a little more self-conscious when she's evil. Take a look at Hi 131, a game which just concluded and she was a wolf. I see a tonal contrast.


I've read through some of her games and I'm afraid I don't see it..


OK, feel free to continue to be suspicious. I don't have her down as a lock good, but I think her posts so far seemed more good!janiera.

PaperF, what do you think of Janiera so far?
Neutral at most.


Paper, with your reputation as a Jan whisperer, this is practically calling a hit on her! Is this a "needs time" thing or an actual absence of Good!Jan?


Just remember that he lost that title because of his failure to read me correctly... He still hasn't earned it back...
Stone
Okay, so I get that a lot of people have been in gauntlet, myself included, but we have to decide who to lynch right now.

AlwaysIdle wrote:

Amekins wrote:

AlwaysIdle wrote:

PaperF wrote:

jimryan1 wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

jimryan1 wrote:

I like Scarlett's entrance. I have no clue how to read Vanders but I like the questions he has asked so far. I also really like Paper today.
I could [vote Beren]
Hi! we've never played together before I don't think.


Why do you say you have no clue how to read me?


Because no matter how many games I've read with you in them, I just plain suck at calling your alignment. I've simply never figured out any of your "tells".
Want some help? He's evil in this game. [vote vanders]


Why do you you think so? His and Ame's dicussion does make it seem like one of them might be evil, but anything other than that?


If one of us is evil it's him


Yeah maybe, I find both of you hard to read, as far as I've seen you're very defensive and Vanders is aggressive and both of those always seem kind of wolfy.


I'm always defensive
I was rereading the thread and noticed some thumbs from floofies from this morning....hoping they will have time to share their thoughts before lynch.

I'm not really sure who I want to vote for. My vote right now is on stone , but it was a joke vote from earlier. I still feel like vanders/amekins is likely to have an evil there, but I'm also worried that it's just because so much of today has been focused on that. At the most though, I think only one of them is evil...I don't see both being evil and drawing so much attention to a dynamic between themselves in this rule set, so they are either one good/one evil or both good. If one of hem is evil, that still leaves 2 wolves in everybody else.

Although I do think it is interesting that vanders is in LL now with 3 votes and amekins is down to 1 vote from vanders.

maybe I'll vote always I like the company there and it'll make a tie.
I wanted to e here for Lynch but as it turns out I'm headed to Bonefish for some bang bang shrimp ! I'll try to check in on mobile
Oops. [vote always] voting is hard.

Also wouldn't mind having Amy/vanders LL
Amy O'Neal

Scarlett_O wrote:

I was rereading the thread and noticed some thumbs from floofies from this morning....hoping they will have time to share their thoughts before lynch.

I'm not really sure who I want to vote for. My vote right now is on stone , but it was a joke vote from earlier. I still feel like vanders/amekins is likely to have an evil there, but I'm also worried that it's just because so much of today has been focused on that. At the most though, I think only one of them is evil...I don't see both being evil and drawing so much attention to a dynamic between themselves in this rule set, so they are either one good/one evil or both good. If one of hem is evil, that still leaves 2 wolves in everybody else.

Although I do think it is interesting that vanders is in LL now with 3 votes and amekins is down to 1 vote from vanders.

maybe I'll vote always I like the company there and it'll make a tie.


You forgot the brackets...

janiera wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

I was rereading the thread and noticed some thumbs from floofies from this morning....hoping they will have time to share their thoughts before lynch.

I'm not really sure who I want to vote for. My vote right now is on stone , but it was a joke vote from earlier. I still feel like vanders/amekins is likely to have an evil there, but I'm also worried that it's just because so much of today has been focused on that. At the most though, I think only one of them is evil...I don't see both being evil and drawing so much attention to a dynamic between themselves in this rule set, so they are either one good/one evil or both good. If one of hem is evil, that still leaves 2 wolves in everybody else.

Although I do think it is interesting that vanders is in LL now with 3 votes and amekins is down to 1 vote from vanders.

maybe I'll vote always I like the company there and it'll make a tie.


You forgot the brackets...


I got there eventually, lol
Lisa

Amekins wrote:

AlwaysIdle wrote:

Amekins wrote:

AlwaysIdle wrote:

PaperF wrote:

jimryan1 wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

jimryan1 wrote:

I like Scarlett's entrance. I have no clue how to read Vanders but I like the questions he has asked so far. I also really like Paper today.
I could [vote Beren]
Hi! we've never played together before I don't think.


Why do you say you have no clue how to read me?


Because no matter how many games I've read with you in them, I just plain suck at calling your alignment. I've simply never figured out any of your "tells".
Want some help? He's evil in this game. [vote vanders]


Why do you you think so? His and Ame's dicussion does make it seem like one of them might be evil, but anything other than that?


If one of us is evil it's him


Yeah maybe, I find both of you hard to read, as far as I've seen you're very defensive and Vanders is aggressive and both of those always seem kind of wolfy.


I'm always defensive


Yeah that's what I mean, and Vanders seems to always play aggressively.
Paper Luis
Aggressiveness vs defensiveness. Go go!!
Lisa

PaperF wrote:

Aggressiveness vs defensiveness. Go go!!


They mix well and terribly at the same time
Stone
I'm in one of those modes where I think everyone is good.
Paper Luis

stonecutter129 wrote:

I'm in one of those modes where I think everyone is good.
We can always lynch you.
Alabaster

Amekins wrote:

Because I thought you were good that game .., I have no idea yet if you're good or evil. Give me time and I'll tell you.


You were the cultist, you knew I was good..
Alabaster

Scarlett_O wrote:

I'm going to [vote amekins]. I think it's pretty likely that one of her and vanders is probably evil based on their interactions today and she is my best bet out of the two.


Why is it likely?
Stone

PaperF wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:

I'm in one of those modes where I think everyone is good.
We can always lynch you.


Or you
Alabaster

stonecutter129 wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Jerival wrote:

I'll join if this starts next week, definitely cannot do the first week of may.


Yeah!!! Jeri


Amekins wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Amekins, are you friends with jerival IRL or from other games on BGG?


Other games on here, he played the first one a week or two ago and killed it. Hes impressive.


So, if Amy was the force for a Jerival NK, why does she say things like this before the game has started?

What do you guys think?


I don't think it means a lot because she didn't have a role when she said that stuff.
Stone

Vanderscamp wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

I'm going to [vote amekins]. I think it's pretty likely that one of her and vanders is probably evil based on their interactions today and she is my best bet out of the two.


Why is it likely?


That line stuck out to me too. I thought we were kind of over that.
Alabaster

Amekins wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Because I thought you were good that game .., I have no idea yet if you're good or evil. Give me time and I'll tell you.


Who are the good reads you have so far, the ones you mentioned earlier?


Gut pluses on you, Fa, Scarlett and Jim. Beren too. If Vsnders wasn't haranguing me I'd prob say him too. I do still think he's good. So far.


If you think I exclusively harangue you as good, why is that a point against me?

stonecutter129 wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

I'm going to [vote amekins]. I think it's pretty likely that one of her and vanders is probably evil based on their interactions today and she is my best bet out of the two.


Why is it likely?


That line stuck out to me too. I thought we were kind of over that.


Why would we be over that? Either someone thinks there's an evil in between them or not. I don't see what has happened that would make someone change their mind there.

Do you think Amekins and Vander are both good?
Alabaster

ortho_ wrote:

[vote always]. Where are you? Any thoughts on the game so far?


Always is playing??

Vanderscamp wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

I'm going to [vote amekins]. I think it's pretty likely that one of her and vanders is probably evil based on their interactions today and she is my best bet out of the two.


Why is it likely?


More likely than anything else I have right now.

I don't know. So many people haven't really been around today. The back and forth between the two of you has really been the focus of the day and it made me feel like one of you was probably evil. I still think that odds are in favor of one of the two of you being evil. I thought it was amekins but a lot of people seem to be taking up for her saying that's how she always is, so maybe that's true. Maybe you're both good. Maybe you're both evil and did the whole conversation for show. Who knows.
Alabaster

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

I'm going to [vote amekins]. I think it's pretty likely that one of her and vanders is probably evil based on their interactions today and she is my best bet out of the two.


Why do you think we can't both be good?


I do think you both could be good, I just think that your interactions point to one of you probably being evil. I liked Vanders points on the last page about how you've reacted to him being suspicious of you in past games where you were good/evil and how you are acting more like you did when you were evil, in this game. And, you said you thought he was good twice in the last few pages, and then once he voted you, you changed it to you didn't know, which makes it feel like you were trying to read him as good to get him to think you are good, but then once you saw that he was reading you as evil anyway, you switched to "having no idea" about his alignment, which makes it feel like you are gearing up to switch to thinking he is evil since he is suspecting you.


This sounds like you're just reading her as evil.
So why is there one between us, what makes me potentially evil?
I wouldn't lynch Scarlett, PaperF, or jimryan. I would lean away from lynching janiera and stonecutter.

Anyone else, I'm not kicking up a huge fuss.


I might actually want to lynch Floofies the most right now. In a game of no reveals, we need participation in the game. Otherwise we're going to be totally screwed when it counts. Conflicted about Vander and Amekins. They're not both evil, that much I know.

[vote floofies]
Alabaster

janiera wrote:

Amekins wrote:

[vote janiera]


Why?

I'm still thinking that Ame and vanders are on opposite teams, but Ame is doing the right things to make me think she is good... So, going with that theory, I'm going to [vote vanders]... But, with Ame voting for me, I'm tempted to change it back...


Do you still think Jan is good, Ortho??

Scarlett_O wrote:

Maybe you're both good. Maybe you're both evil and did the whole conversation for show. Who knows.


I don't think evil!Vander would bus right here the way they've been bussing if they were both wolves.

Vanderscamp wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

I'm going to [vote amekins]. I think it's pretty likely that one of her and vanders is probably evil based on their interactions today and she is my best bet out of the two.


Why do you think we can't both be good?


I do think you both could be good, I just think that your interactions point to one of you probably being evil. I liked Vanders points on the last page about how you've reacted to him being suspicious of you in past games where you were good/evil and how you are acting more like you did when you were evil, in this game. And, you said you thought he was good twice in the last few pages, and then once he voted you, you changed it to you didn't know, which makes it feel like you were trying to read him as good to get him to think you are good, but then once you saw that he was reading you as evil anyway, you switched to "having no idea" about his alignment, which makes it feel like you are gearing up to switch to thinking he is evil since he is suspecting you.


This sounds like you're just reading her as evil.
So why is there one between us, what makes me potentially evil?


I have thought she is the one that is evil. I think I've said that? Let me explain it like this: in this scenario, I think it is the most likely that one of the two of you is evil. Second most likely that the evil is amy. Third most likely that, if amy is good, you are evil. 4th most likely that you are both good and 5th most likely that you're both evil

Does that make more sense?

ortho_ wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

Maybe you're both good. Maybe you're both evil and did the whole conversation for show. Who knows.


I don't think evil!Vander would bus right here the way they've been bussing if they were both wolves.


I don't think that either. It was just a " :shrug: anything is possible and I am not sure about anything" comment.
Alabaster

Amekins wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

Amekins wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

I'm going to [vote amekins]. I think it's pretty likely that one of her and vanders is probably evil based on their interactions today and she is my best bet out of the two.


Why do you think we can't both be good?


I do think you both could be good, I just think that your interactions point to one of you probably being evil. I liked Vanders points on the last page about how you've reacted to him being suspicious of you in past games where you were good/evil and how you are acting more like you did when you were evil, in this game. And, you said you thought he was good twice in the last few pages, and then once he voted you, you changed it to you didn't know, which makes it feel like you were trying to read him as good to get him to think you are good, but then once you saw that he was reading you as evil anyway, you switched to "having no idea" about his alignment, which makes it feel like you are gearing up to switch to thinking he is evil since he is suspecting you.


That had nothing to do with his vote. it was reading him and the progression over the day on how I felt about him. In the beginning I was more confident he was good. As I have read his responses it seems like I could be wrong. I said I DON'T KNOW. And WHY would me saying I think hes good accusing me make him think I am good? That makes no sense. Like I am reverse reverse psychology-ing him ? Lol... if I feel like i think hes evil I will say so. I have no shits to give on him going after me because my first post was a joke he misinterpreted.


It just seemed weird to me because there was only like 3 posts in between you saying you thought he was good, then him voting you and you switching to saying you had no idea if he was good or evil.

As for why you saying you think he is good accusing you making him think you are good.... I know that I have been tricked by evils reading me as good and me thinking they are good because of it, lol. Maybe that's not the case for everyone though.


I still think he is probably good. He gets the wrong impression of me often. ONCE he accused me and I actually was evil and ever since I feel like he does it ALMOST every game. But I am not evil every game and he is wrong way more than he's right. I haven't seen him be evil yet though.


You have not actually mentioned a single example of a time I've tunnelled incorrectly on you!!!!

Like, maybe this is the first game, but I want you to give me ONE EXAMPLE of a time I've read you as evil AS GOOD and been wrong.

Because you keep saying this, and it's not true.

Vanderscamp wrote:

janiera wrote:

Amekins wrote:

[vote janiera]


Why?

I'm still thinking that Ame and vanders are on opposite teams, but Ame is doing the right things to make me think she is good... So, going with that theory, I'm going to [vote vanders]... But, with Ame voting for me, I'm tempted to change it back...


Do you still think Jan is good, Ortho??


Maybe? I'm trying not to hold onto that good read more than it warrants. I usually always think janiera is evil no matter what. I just saw her be evil and it's coloring my perception.

I'm not going to defend her strongly but I'd rather lynch someone else.
Stone

ortho_ wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

I'm going to [vote amekins]. I think it's pretty likely that one of her and vanders is probably evil based on their interactions today and she is my best bet out of the two.


Why is it likely?


That line stuck out to me too. I thought we were kind of over that.


Why would we be over that? Either someone thinks there's an evil in between them or not. I don't see what has happened that would make someone change their mind there.

Do you think Amekins and Vander are both good?


Over that, was a wrong phrasing. She can consider whatever she wants. I definitely think Amekins is good, and I don't have my mind set on Vanders, but I think he is good as well.

Vanderscamp wrote:


You have not actually mentioned a single example of a time I've tunnelled incorrectly on you!!!!

Like, maybe this is the first game, but I want you to give me ONE EXAMPLE of a time I've read you as evil AS GOOD and been wrong.

Because you keep saying this, and it's not true.


Vander, I'm not clear - do you strongly think Amekins is evil?

Because you guys keep going around and around on this, and I'm still sensing some ambivalence from you. Do you think Amekins is going to go back and read old games to provide this evidence? If not, what purpose does it serve?
Is the tally not working? I haven't seen one in a while and there has been a few votes
Lisa

Vanderscamp wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

[vote always]. Where are you? Any thoughts on the game so far?


Always is playing??


Yes?

AlwaysIdle wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

[vote always]. Where are you? Any thoughts on the game so far?


Always is playing??


Yes?


Do you have any reads?
Alabaster

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:


You have not actually mentioned a single example of a time I've tunnelled incorrectly on you!!!!

Like, maybe this is the first game, but I want you to give me ONE EXAMPLE of a time I've read you as evil AS GOOD and been wrong.

Because you keep saying this, and it's not true.


Vander, I'm not clear - do you strongly think Amekins is evil?

Because you guys keep going around and around on this, and I'm still sensing some ambivalence from you. Do you think Amekins is going to go back and read old games to provide this evidence? If not, what purpose does it serve?


I don't expect her to do that but it blows my mind that she would even think this.
I want her to try and remember a single game out of the "many many times" she says this has actually happened, just like, giving an example, so I can try to find out if she's lying or not. Her saying that she's never seen me as evil doing this is also not true because it happened fairly recently in game of 19 where she correctly read me as evil.
Alabaster

Vanderscamp wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:


You have not actually mentioned a single example of a time I've tunnelled incorrectly on you!!!!

Like, maybe this is the first game, but I want you to give me ONE EXAMPLE of a time I've read you as evil AS GOOD and been wrong.

Because you keep saying this, and it's not true.


Vander, I'm not clear - do you strongly think Amekins is evil?

Because you guys keep going around and around on this, and I'm still sensing some ambivalence from you. Do you think Amekins is going to go back and read old games to provide this evidence? If not, what purpose does it serve?


I don't expect her to do that but it blows my mind that she would even think this.
I want her to try and remember a single game out of the "many many times" she says this has actually happened, just like, giving an example, so I can try to find out if she's lying or not. Her saying that she's never seen me as evil doing this is also not true because it happened fairly recently in game of 19 where she correctly read me as evil.


I think she's evil but I'm not sure.
Alabaster

Cassandra Project wrote:

VOTE TALLY

Player (13/15) - # - Voted by

Vanderscamp - 3 - ortho_(9) , FaleohFang(18), janiera(25), PaperF(28)
FaleohFang - 2 - BlackSheep(15), BerenCamlost(20)
janiera - 2 - FaleohFang(4) , Floofies(6), Amekins(24)
stonecutter129 - 2 - PaperF(8) , AlwaysIdle(11), Scarlett_O(26)
AlwaysIdle - 2 - ortho_(23), Jimryan1(27)
BerenCamlost - 1 - Jimryan1(16) , stonecutter129(17)
Amekins - 1 - janiera(2) , FaleohFang(3) , Vanderscamp(12) , Vanderscamp(21), Scarlett_O(22)
Scarlett_O - 0 - ortho_(13)
ortho_ - 0 - PaperF(1) , Vanderscamp(10)
PaperF - 0 - Jimryan1(5) , stonecutter129(7) , BerenCamlost(14)
Jimryan1 - 0 - ortho_(19)

Not Voting: N/A


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Night Action deadline is at 7:00 PM BGG
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INVERTED TALLY

Voter - # - Voted on

AlwaysIdle - 1 - stonecutter129(11)
Amekins - 1 - janiera(24)
BerenCamlost - 2 - PaperF(14) , FaleohFang(20)
BlackSheep - 1 - FaleohFang(15)
FaleohFang - 3 - Amekins(3) , janiera(4) , Vanderscamp(18)
Floofies - 1 - janiera(6)
janiera - 2 - Amekins(2) , Vanderscamp(25)
Jimryan1 - 3 - PaperF(5) , BerenCamlost(16) , AlwaysIdle(27)
ortho_ - 4 - Vanderscamp(9) , Scarlett_O(13) , Jimryan1(19) , AlwaysIdle(23)
PaperF - 3 - ortho_(1) , stonecutter129(8) , Vanderscamp(28)
Scarlett_O - 2 - Amekins(22) , stonecutter129(26)
stonecutter129 - 2 - PaperF(7) , BerenCamlost(17)
Vanderscamp - 3 - ortho_(10) , Amekins(12) , Amekins(21)

Not Voting: N/A

This is the last tally?

Scarlett_O wrote:

Is the tally not working? I haven't seen one in a while and there has been a few votes


Yeah, good point, seemingly it's broken. Last tally was 3:32, and I know I've voted and it wasn't picked up.
Paper Luis
[tally]
Alabaster
I'll make it really easy for you guys, I'm the vigilante.
Yeah, I voted since then and so has ortho at least. On the last page. Maybe others.

Vanderscamp wrote:

I'll make it really easy for you guys, I'm the vigilante.


[vote amekins]
Paper Luis
If the real vigilante is out there, speak now!

Vanderscamp wrote:


I think she's evil but I'm not sure.


If Amekins is evil, I think there's a chance Faleoh is a co-wolf. Amekins dropped Faleoh into her good reads, not really sure why. And Faleoh seemed to go after you shortly after you went after Amekins, which I thought was a little uncharacteristic of Faleoh for that stage in the game otherwise.

But maybe she's becoming more D1 confident.
Alabaster
I'd just like to say again that I'm not sure that Amy is evil.
Alabaster

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:


I think she's evil but I'm not sure.


If Amekins is evil, I think there's a chance Faleoh is a co-wolf. Amekins dropped Faleoh into her good reads, not really sure why. And Faleoh seemed to go after you shortly after you went after Amekins, which I thought was a little uncharacteristic of Faleoh for that stage in the game otherwise.

But maybe she's becoming more D1 confident.


I agree with that.

Vanderscamp wrote:

I'd just like to say again that I'm not sure that Amy is evil.


Is there anyone else you think might be?

Vanderscamp wrote:

I'll make it really easy for you guys, I'm the vigilante.


There's no sniping in this game, right?

I'm trying to think about the optimum way to handle this.
It's hard to know where to vote to get vanders out of LL with no recent tally, lol. Was ortho's the only other vote move since the last tally?
Jim Ryan
I don't like that Always checked in while getting up to speed, and didn't really follow that up. I'm content with my vote there right now. Also, would love to see Cassy show up and throw out a few tallies!
Are we going to have a lynch if the tally doesn't work?
Sirius Black

ortho_ wrote:

Are we going to have a lynch if the tally doesn't work?


I just requested a tally. If it doesn't post, I'll get an updated tally out and will delay lynch 15 minutes.
The Floof Meister
I'm here! Sorry for being so quiet, I'm always busy Monday afternoon and I got back later than I thought I would. I have 8 pages to skim through and then I'll be caught up.
Alabaster

ortho_ wrote:

I wouldn't lynch Scarlett, PaperF, or jimryan. I would lean away from lynching janiera and stonecutter.

Anyone else, I'm not kicking up a huge fuss.


I might actually want to lynch Floofies the most right now. In a game of no reveals, we need participation in the game. Otherwise we're going to be totally screwed when it counts. Conflicted about Vander and Amekins. They're not both evil, that much I know.

[vote floofies]


I'm absolutely fine voting here.
Sirius Black
Last official Tally at 3:32pm

I will work from here.

Cassandra Project wrote:

VOTE TALLY

Player (13/15) - # - Voted by

Vanderscamp - 3 - ortho_(9) , FaleohFang(18), janiera(25), PaperF(28)
FaleohFang - 2 - BlackSheep(15), BerenCamlost(20)
janiera - 2 - FaleohFang(4) , Floofies(6), Amekins(24)
stonecutter129 - 2 - PaperF(8) , AlwaysIdle(11), Scarlett_O(26)
AlwaysIdle - 2 - ortho_(23), Jimryan1(27)
BerenCamlost - 1 - Jimryan1(16) , stonecutter129(17)
Amekins - 1 - janiera(2) , FaleohFang(3) , Vanderscamp(12) , Vanderscamp(21), Scarlett_O(22)
Scarlett_O - 0 - ortho_(13)
ortho_ - 0 - PaperF(1) , Vanderscamp(10)
PaperF - 0 - Jimryan1(5) , stonecutter129(7) , BerenCamlost(14)
Jimryan1 - 0 - ortho_(19)

Not Voting: N/A


Nightfall votes are denoted by an '*' after the player's name.

Your Moderator has chosen to use the Longest Held Last Vote method for a tiebreaker - This is just for Cassandra system, and there may be a different tiebreaker specified by your Moderator in the ruleset.

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INVERTED TALLY

Voter - # - Voted on

AlwaysIdle - 1 - stonecutter129(11)
Amekins - 1 - janiera(24)
BerenCamlost - 2 - PaperF(14) , FaleohFang(20)
BlackSheep - 1 - FaleohFang(15)
FaleohFang - 3 - Amekins(3) , janiera(4) , Vanderscamp(18)
Floofies - 1 - janiera(6)
janiera - 2 - Amekins(2) , Vanderscamp(25)
Jimryan1 - 3 - PaperF(5) , BerenCamlost(16) , AlwaysIdle(27)
ortho_ - 4 - Vanderscamp(9) , Scarlett_O(13) , Jimryan1(19) , AlwaysIdle(23)
PaperF - 3 - ortho_(1) , stonecutter129(8) , Vanderscamp(28)
Scarlett_O - 2 - Amekins(22) , stonecutter129(26)
stonecutter129 - 2 - PaperF(7) , BerenCamlost(17)
Vanderscamp - 3 - ortho_(10) , Amekins(12) , Amekins(21)

Not Voting: N/A
Cassandra Project
VOTE TALLY

Player (13/15) - # - Voted by

Vanderscamp - 3 - ortho_(9) , FaleohFang(18), janiera(25), PaperF(28)
FaleohFang - 2 - BlackSheep(15), BerenCamlost(20)
janiera - 2 - FaleohFang(4) , Floofies(6), Amekins(24)
stonecutter129 - 2 - PaperF(8) , AlwaysIdle(11), Scarlett_O(26)
AlwaysIdle - 2 - ortho_(23), Jimryan1(27)
BerenCamlost - 1 - Jimryan1(16) , stonecutter129(17)
Amekins - 1 - janiera(2) , FaleohFang(3) , Vanderscamp(12) , Vanderscamp(21), Scarlett_O(22)
Scarlett_O - 0 - ortho_(13)
ortho_ - 0 - PaperF(1) , Vanderscamp(10)
PaperF - 0 - Jimryan1(5) , stonecutter129(7) , BerenCamlost(14)
Jimryan1 - 0 - ortho_(19)

Not Voting: N/A


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INVERTED TALLY

Voter - # - Voted on

AlwaysIdle - 1 - stonecutter129(11)
Amekins - 1 - janiera(24)
BerenCamlost - 2 - PaperF(14) , FaleohFang(20)
BlackSheep - 1 - FaleohFang(15)
FaleohFang - 3 - Amekins(3) , janiera(4) , Vanderscamp(18)
Floofies - 1 - janiera(6)
janiera - 2 - Amekins(2) , Vanderscamp(25)
Jimryan1 - 3 - PaperF(5) , BerenCamlost(16) , AlwaysIdle(27)
ortho_ - 4 - Vanderscamp(9) , Scarlett_O(13) , Jimryan1(19) , AlwaysIdle(23)
PaperF - 3 - ortho_(1) , stonecutter129(8) , Vanderscamp(28)
Scarlett_O - 2 - Amekins(22) , stonecutter129(26)
stonecutter129 - 2 - PaperF(7) , BerenCamlost(17)
Vanderscamp - 3 - ortho_(10) , Amekins(12) , Amekins(21)

Not Voting: N/A
Alabaster

Scarlett_O wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

I'd just like to say again that I'm not sure that Amy is evil.


Is there anyone else you think might be?


Potentially Jan.
Paper Luis

Vanderscamp wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

I'd just like to say again that I'm not sure that Amy is evil.


Is there anyone else you think might be?


Potentially Jan.
Why jan?
Lisa

jimryan1 wrote:

I don't like that Always checked in while getting up to speed, and didn't really follow that up. I'm content with my vote there right now. Also, would love to see Cassy show up and throw out a few tallies!


I did follow up, I said I thought Jan and Stone were good and that I thought there was an evil between Ame and Vanders.
Alabaster

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

I'll make it really easy for you guys, I'm the vigilante.


There's no sniping in this game, right?

I'm trying to think about the optimum way to handle this.


The optimum way to handle this is to believe me 100% of the time because I've just claimed a role where if I'm a wolf I instantly die if I didn't get lucky and kill the vigilante N0.

I would never claim this as evil => I'm the vigilante.



I think claiming D1 is actually fine for my role anyway, probably even better than not claiming.
Paper Luis

Floofies wrote:

I'm here! Sorry for being so quiet, I'm always busy Monday afternoon and I got back later than I thought I would. I have 8 pages to skim through and then I'll be caught up.
Please, share your thoughts!
Sirius Black
This tally is missing Scarlett's vote at 5:04pm on Always.
It is also missing ortho's vote at 5:28pm on floofies.
And Scarlett's vote at 5:38pm on Amekins.

Lynch will be delayed until 6:15.

Cassandra Project wrote:

VOTE TALLY

Player (13/15) - # - Voted by

Vanderscamp - 3 - ortho_(9) , FaleohFang(18), janiera(25), PaperF(28)
FaleohFang - 2 - BlackSheep(15), BerenCamlost(20)
janiera - 2 - FaleohFang(4) , Floofies(6), Amekins(24)
stonecutter129 - 2 - PaperF(8) , AlwaysIdle(11), Scarlett_O(26)
AlwaysIdle - 2 - ortho_(23), Jimryan1(27)
BerenCamlost - 1 - Jimryan1(16) , stonecutter129(17)
Amekins - 1 - janiera(2) , FaleohFang(3) , Vanderscamp(12) , Vanderscamp(21), Scarlett_O(22)
Scarlett_O - 0 - ortho_(13)
ortho_ - 0 - PaperF(1) , Vanderscamp(10)
PaperF - 0 - Jimryan1(5) , stonecutter129(7) , BerenCamlost(14)
Jimryan1 - 0 - ortho_(19)

Not Voting: N/A


Nightfall votes are denoted by an '*' after the player's name.

Your Moderator has chosen to use the Longest Held Last Vote method for a tiebreaker - This is just for Cassandra system, and there may be a different tiebreaker specified by your Moderator in the ruleset.

Lynch time is at 6:00 PM BGG
Night Action deadline is at 7:00 PM BGG
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INVERTED TALLY

Voter - # - Voted on

AlwaysIdle - 1 - stonecutter129(11)
Amekins - 1 - janiera(24)
BerenCamlost - 2 - PaperF(14) , FaleohFang(20)
BlackSheep - 1 - FaleohFang(15)
FaleohFang - 3 - Amekins(3) , janiera(4) , Vanderscamp(18)
Floofies - 1 - janiera(6)
janiera - 2 - Amekins(2) , Vanderscamp(25)
Jimryan1 - 3 - PaperF(5) , BerenCamlost(16) , AlwaysIdle(27)
ortho_ - 4 - Vanderscamp(9) , Scarlett_O(13) , Jimryan1(19) , AlwaysIdle(23)
PaperF - 3 - ortho_(1) , stonecutter129(8) , Vanderscamp(28)
Scarlett_O - 2 - Amekins(22) , stonecutter129(26)
stonecutter129 - 2 - PaperF(7) , BerenCamlost(17)
Vanderscamp - 3 - ortho_(10) , Amekins(12) , Amekins(21)

Not Voting: N/A
Paper Luis
[vote always]
Jim Ryan
Tally is missing votes on Floofies...
Alabaster

PaperF wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

I'd just like to say again that I'm not sure that Amy is evil.


Is there anyone else you think might be?


Potentially Jan.
Why jan?


Because I wasn't a huge fan of her post where she voted me, and not because she voted me.
so, stone jan, and faleoh have 2 votes each. I'll [vote janiera]

Vanderscamp wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

I'll make it really easy for you guys, I'm the vigilante.


There's no sniping in this game, right?

I'm trying to think about the optimum way to handle this.


The optimum way to handle this is to believe me 100% of the time because I've just claimed a role where if I'm a wolf I instantly die if I didn't get lucky and kill the vigilante N0.

I would never claim this as evil => I'm the vigilante.



I think claiming D1 is actually fine for my role anyway, probably even better than not claiming.


No, I meant in terms of you striking a balance between informing us so we can make sense of kills after your death and not giving info to the wolves tonight.

I agree, Vig is a bonkers claim as a wolf.
Paper Luis
Floofies?!
Alabaster

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

Vanderscamp wrote:

I'll make it really easy for you guys, I'm the vigilante.


There's no sniping in this game, right?

I'm trying to think about the optimum way to handle this.


The optimum way to handle this is to believe me 100% of the time because I've just claimed a role where if I'm a wolf I instantly die if I didn't get lucky and kill the vigilante N0.

I would never claim this as evil => I'm the vigilante.



I think claiming D1 is actually fine for my role anyway, probably even better than not claiming.


No, I meant in terms of you striking a balance between informing us so we can make sense of kills after your death and not giving info to the wolves tonight.

I agree, Vig is a bonkers claim as a wolf.


Oh.

I don't think I'm dying tonight.
Paper Luis
[vote floofies]
Cassandra Project
VOTE TALLY

Player (13/15) - # - Voted by

Vanderscamp - 3 - ortho_(9) , FaleohFang(18), janiera(25), PaperF(28)
FaleohFang - 2 - BlackSheep(15), BerenCamlost(20)
janiera - 2 - FaleohFang(4) , Floofies(6), Amekins(24)
stonecutter129 - 2 - PaperF(8) , AlwaysIdle(11), Scarlett_O(26)
AlwaysIdle - 2 - ortho_(23), Jimryan1(27)
BerenCamlost - 1 - Jimryan1(16) , stonecutter129(17)
Amekins - 1 - janiera(2) , FaleohFang(3) , Vanderscamp(12) , Vanderscamp(21), Scarlett_O(22)
Scarlett_O - 0 - ortho_(13)
ortho_ - 0 - PaperF(1) , Vanderscamp(10)
PaperF - 0 - Jimryan1(5) , stonecutter129(7) , BerenCamlost(14)
Jimryan1 - 0 - ortho_(19)

Not Voting: N/A


Nightfall votes are denoted by an '*' after the player's name.

Your Moderator has chosen to use the Longest Held Last Vote method for a tiebreaker - This is just for Cassandra system, and there may be a different tiebreaker specified by your Moderator in the ruleset.

Lynch time is at 6:15 PM BGG
Night Action deadline is at 7:00 PM BGG
---------------------

INVERTED TALLY

Voter - # - Voted on

AlwaysIdle - 1 - stonecutter129(11)
Amekins - 1 - janiera(24)
BerenCamlost - 2 - PaperF(14) , FaleohFang(20)
BlackSheep - 1 - FaleohFang(15)
FaleohFang - 3 - Amekins(3) , janiera(4) , Vanderscamp(18)
Floofies - 1 - janiera(6)
janiera - 2 - Amekins(2) , Vanderscamp(25)
Jimryan1 - 3 - PaperF(5) , BerenCamlost(16) , AlwaysIdle(27)
ortho_ - 4 - Vanderscamp(9) , Scarlett_O(13) , Jimryan1(19) , AlwaysIdle(23)
PaperF - 3 - ortho_(1) , stonecutter129(8) , Vanderscamp(28)
Scarlett_O - 2 - Amekins(22) , stonecutter129(26)
stonecutter129 - 2 - PaperF(7) , BerenCamlost(17)
Vanderscamp - 3 - ortho_(10) , Amekins(12) , Amekins(21)

Not Voting: N/A
Alabaster
Wolves can try to kill me if they want to but we most likely have a bodyguard alive who may or may not save me.

The reason that claiming vigi D1 is fine in this set is that you usually don't just autodie when you claim it.
Janiera and Faleoh - If you are around, please vote elsewhere than Vander. He's almost certainly good.
Stone

Cassandra Project wrote:

VOTE TALLY

Player (13/15) - # - Voted by

Vanderscamp - 3 - ortho_(9) , FaleohFang(18), janiera(25), PaperF(28)
FaleohFang - 2 - BlackSheep(15), BerenCamlost(20)
janiera - 2 - FaleohFang(4) , Floofies(6), Amekins(24)
stonecutter129 - 2 - PaperF(8) , AlwaysIdle(11), Scarlett_O(26)
AlwaysIdle - 2 - ortho_(23), Jimryan1(27)
BerenCamlost - 1 - Jimryan1(16) , stonecutter129(17)
Amekins - 1 - janiera(2) , FaleohFang(3) , Vanderscamp(12) , Vanderscamp(21), Scarlett_O(22)
Scarlett_O - 0 - ortho_(13)
ortho_ - 0 - PaperF(1) , Vanderscamp(10)
PaperF - 0 - Jimryan1(5) , stonecutter129(7) , BerenCamlost(14)
Jimryan1 - 0 - ortho_(19)

Not Voting: N/A


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Your Moderator has chosen to use the Longest Held Last Vote method for a tiebreaker - This is just for Cassandra system, and there may be a different tiebreaker specified by your Moderator in the ruleset.

Lynch time is at 6:15 PM BGG
Night Action deadline is at 7:00 PM BGG
---------------------

INVERTED TALLY

Voter - # - Voted on

AlwaysIdle - 1 - stonecutter129(11)
Amekins - 1 - janiera(24)
BerenCamlost - 2 - PaperF(14) , FaleohFang(20)
BlackSheep - 1 - FaleohFang(15)
FaleohFang - 3 - Amekins(3) , janiera(4) , Vanderscamp(18)
Floofies - 1 - janiera(6)
janiera - 2 - Amekins(2) , Vanderscamp(25)
Jimryan1 - 3 - PaperF(5) , BerenCamlost(16) , AlwaysIdle(27)
ortho_ - 4 - Vanderscamp(9) , Scarlett_O(13) , Jimryan1(19) , AlwaysIdle(23)
PaperF - 3 - ortho_(1) , stonecutter129(8) , Vanderscamp(28)
Scarlett_O - 2 - Amekins(22) , stonecutter129(26)
stonecutter129 - 2 - PaperF(7) , BerenCamlost(17)
Vanderscamp - 3 - ortho_(10) , Amekins(12) , Amekins(21)

Not Voting: N/A


That's odd. You fixed it Paper.

Vanderscamp wrote:

Wolves can try to kill me if they want to but we most likely have a bodyguard alive who may or may not save me.

The reason that claiming vigi D1 is fine in this set is that you usually don't just autodie when you claim it.


Oh, right, bodyguard. I need to internalize how this set works.
Stone

ortho_ wrote:

Janiera and Faleoh - If you are around, please vote elsewhere than Vander. He's almost certainly good.


Faleoh is gone.

stonecutter129 wrote:



That's odd. You fixed it Paper.


No, because it shows him as voting Vander. Maybe those are super-delayed tallies?
Lisa

stonecutter129 wrote:

Cassandra Project wrote:

VOTE TALLY

Player (13/15) - # - Voted by

Vanderscamp - 3 - ortho_(9) , FaleohFang(18), janiera(25), PaperF(28)
FaleohFang - 2 - BlackSheep(15), BerenCamlost(20)
janiera - 2 - FaleohFang(4) , Floofies(6), Amekins(24)
stonecutter129 - 2 - PaperF(8) , AlwaysIdle(11), Scarlett_O(26)
AlwaysIdle - 2 - ortho_(23), Jimryan1(27)
BerenCamlost - 1 - Jimryan1(16) , stonecutter129(17)
Amekins - 1 - janiera(2) , FaleohFang(3) , Vanderscamp(12) , Vanderscamp(21), Scarlett_O(22)
Scarlett_O - 0 - ortho_(13)
ortho_ - 0 - PaperF(1) , Vanderscamp(10)
PaperF - 0 - Jimryan1(5) , stonecutter129(7) , BerenCamlost(14)
Jimryan1 - 0 - ortho_(19)

Not Voting: N/A


Nightfall votes are denoted by an '*' after the player's name.

Your Moderator has chosen to use the Longest Held Last Vote method for a tiebreaker - This is just for Cassandra system, and there may be a different tiebreaker specified by your Moderator in the ruleset.

Lynch time is at 6:15 PM BGG
Night Action deadline is at 7:00 PM BGG
---------------------

INVERTED TALLY

Voter - # - Voted on

AlwaysIdle - 1 - stonecutter129(11)
Amekins - 1 - janiera(24)
BerenCamlost - 2 - PaperF(14) , FaleohFang(20)
BlackSheep - 1 - FaleohFang(15)
FaleohFang - 3 - Amekins(3) , janiera(4) , Vanderscamp(18)
Floofies - 1 - janiera(6)
janiera - 2 - Amekins(2) , Vanderscamp(25)
Jimryan1 - 3 - PaperF(5) , BerenCamlost(16) , AlwaysIdle(27)
ortho_ - 4 - Vanderscamp(9) , Scarlett_O(13) , Jimryan1(19) , AlwaysIdle(23)
PaperF - 3 - ortho_(1) , stonecutter129(8) , Vanderscamp(28)
Scarlett_O - 2 - Amekins(22) , stonecutter129(26)
stonecutter129 - 2 - PaperF(7) , BerenCamlost(17)
Vanderscamp - 3 - ortho_(10) , Amekins(12) , Amekins(21)

Not Voting: N/A


That's odd. You fixed it Paper.


It posted. but I don't think it's right

stonecutter129 wrote:

Cassandra Project wrote:

VOTE TALLY

Player (13/15) - # - Voted by

Vanderscamp - 3 - ortho_(9) , FaleohFang(18), janiera(25), PaperF(28)
FaleohFang - 2 - BlackSheep(15), BerenCamlost(20)
janiera - 2 - FaleohFang(4) , Floofies(6), Amekins(24)
stonecutter129 - 2 - PaperF(8) , AlwaysIdle(11), Scarlett_O(26)
AlwaysIdle - 2 - ortho_(23), Jimryan1(27)
BerenCamlost - 1 - Jimryan1(16) , stonecutter129(17)
Amekins - 1 - janiera(2) , FaleohFang(3) , Vanderscamp(12) , Vanderscamp(21), Scarlett_O(22)
Scarlett_O - 0 - ortho_(13)
ortho_ - 0 - PaperF(1) , Vanderscamp(10)
PaperF - 0 - Jimryan1(5) , stonecutter129(7) , BerenCamlost(14)
Jimryan1 - 0 - ortho_(19)

Not Voting: N/A


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Night Action deadline is at 7:00 PM BGG
---------------------

INVERTED TALLY

Voter - # - Voted on

AlwaysIdle - 1 - stonecutter129(11)
Amekins - 1 - janiera(24)
BerenCamlost - 2 - PaperF(14) , FaleohFang(20)
BlackSheep - 1 - FaleohFang(15)
FaleohFang - 3 - Amekins(3) , janiera(4) , Vanderscamp(18)
Floofies - 1 - janiera(6)
janiera - 2 - Amekins(2) , Vanderscamp(25)
Jimryan1 - 3 - PaperF(5) , BerenCamlost(16) , AlwaysIdle(27)
ortho_ - 4 - Vanderscamp(9) , Scarlett_O(13) , Jimryan1(19) , AlwaysIdle(23)
PaperF - 3 - ortho_(1) , stonecutter129(8) , Vanderscamp(28)
Scarlett_O - 2 - Amekins(22) , stonecutter129(26)
stonecutter129 - 2 - PaperF(7) , BerenCamlost(17)
Vanderscamp - 3 - ortho_(10) , Amekins(12) , Amekins(21)

Not Voting: N/A


That's odd. You fixed it Paper.


No, it's still wrong
[vote floofies] per royal's instruction.
Paper Luis
Where's the people?
Lisa
[vote floofies]
As far as I can tell it's

Jan 3
faleoh, vanders, floofies 2

maybe?
Sirius Black

ortho_ wrote:

[vote floofies] per royal's instruction.


Thanks, you can certainly vote elsewhere, just wanted to try to correct Cassy log

I will attempt to take into account vote timing for LHLV as needed

Scarlett_O wrote:

As far as I can tell it's

Jan 3
faleoh, vanders, floofies 2

maybe?


Faleoh now has 3 because of Always. Was Always voting off janiera to vote Floofies?
Sirius Black
Tally

Player (13/15) - # - Voted by

Vanderscamp - 2 - ortho_(9) , FaleohFang(18), janiera(25), PaperF(28)
FaleohFang - 2 - BlackSheep(15), BerenCamlost(20)
janiera - 3 - FaleohFang(4) , Floofies(6), Amekins(24), Scarlett (33)
stonecutter129 - 0 - PaperF(8) , AlwaysIdle(11 ), Scarlett_O(26)
Floofies - 3 - ortho_ (30), Paper (34), Always (35)
AlwaysIdle - 2 - ortho_(23 ), Jimryan1(27), Scarlett (29) , Paper (32)
BerenCamlost - 1 - Jimryan1(16) , stonecutter129(17)
Amekins - 2 - janiera(2) , FaleohFang(3) , Vanderscamp(12) , Vanderscamp(21), Scarlett_O(22) , Scarlett (31)
Scarlett_O - 0 - ortho_(13)
ortho_ - 0 - PaperF(1) , Vanderscamp(10)
PaperF - 0 - Jimryan1(5) , stonecutter129(7) , BerenCamlost(14)
Jimryan1 - 0 - ortho_(19)

The Floof Meister
Okay, I'm caught up now. Reads coming in a minute.
Jim Ryan

PaperF wrote:

Where's the people?


Here, but struggling with the lack of tally annotation. I could vote Floof, Jan or Always... and pretty much in that preference order.

jimryan1 wrote:

PaperF wrote:

Where's the people?


Here, but struggling with the lack of tally annotation. I could vote Floof, Jan or Always... and pretty much in that preference order.


Thoughts on Faleoh?
Lisa
Are we still allowed to vote?

AlwaysIdle wrote:

Are we still allowed to vote?


Deadline is 6:15 BGG.
Alabaster

AlwaysIdle wrote:

Are we still allowed to vote?


Yeah, please do.
Stone
I'm curious why no one is on Beren as well, if we're throwing out AFKs.
Sirius Black

RoyalApe wrote:

Tally

Player (13/15) - # - Voted by

janiera - 3 - FaleohFang(4) , Floofies(6), Amekins(24), Scarlett (33)
Floofies - 3 - ortho_ (30), Paper (34), Always (35)
FaleohFang - 2 - BlackSheep(15), BerenCamlost(20)
Vanderscamp - 2 - ortho_(9) , FaleohFang(18), janiera(25), PaperF(28)
AlwaysIdle - 1 - ortho_(23 ), Jimryan1(27), Scarlett (29) , Paper (32)
Amekins - 1 - janiera(2) , FaleohFang(3) , Vanderscamp(12) , Vanderscamp(21), Scarlett_O(22) , Scarlett (31)
BerenCamlost - 1 - Jimryan1(16) , stonecutter129(17)
stonecutter129 - 0 - PaperF(8) , AlwaysIdle(11 ), Scarlett_O(26)
Scarlett_O - 0 - ortho_(13)
ortho_ - 0 - PaperF(1) , Vanderscamp(10)
PaperF - 0 - Jimryan1(5) , stonecutter129(7) , BerenCamlost(14)
Jimryan1 - 0 - ortho_(19)

ortho_ wrote:

Scarlett_O wrote:

As far as I can tell it's

Jan 3
faleoh, vanders, floofies 2

maybe?


Faleoh now has 3 because of Always. Was Always voting off janiera to vote Floofies?


I have no idea. I counted before always' vote. I thought always was voting jan. But now, I guess jan is back at 2? And floofies is at 3?

I'm going to [vote floofies] too so that something weird can't happen.

That should make floofies in the lead with 4 and I have no idea what else for the rest of the votes
Sirius Black

ortho_ wrote:

AlwaysIdle wrote:

Are we still allowed to vote?


Deadline is 6:15 BGG.


This is correct, extended Dusk due to cassy issues.
Patrick Hill
I'm caught up and knew we had delayed lynch 15 minutes, but I'm confused without a tally. I still feel good about my vote on FFang, but we know she is working right now and can't defend herself.

I can get behind moving my vote to Floofies, but I don't want it to be meta from my other game.

Floofies, what do you have to say?
Alabaster
[vote Floofies]

Thoughts on the game?

stonecutter129 wrote:

I'm curious why no one is on Beren as well, if we're throwing out AFKs.


I think it's mostly a flurry of trying to save the vigilante and figure out who's easiest to get in ll with no tally, lol.
Lisa

stonecutter129 wrote:

I'm curious why no one is on Beren as well, if we're throwing out AFKs.


Do you think Beren is evil?
Sirius Black
Tally

Player (13/15) - # - Voted by

Floofies - 4 - ortho_ (30), Paper (34), Always (35), Scarlett (36)
janiera - 2 - FaleohFang(4) , Floofies(6), Amekins(24), Scarlett (33)
FaleohFang - 2 - BlackSheep(15), BerenCamlost(20)
Vanderscamp - 2 - ortho_(9) , FaleohFang(18), janiera(25), PaperF(28)
AlwaysIdle - 1 - ortho_(23 ), Jimryan1(27), Scarlett (29) , Paper (32)
Amekins - 1 - janiera(2) , FaleohFang(3) , Vanderscamp(12) , Vanderscamp(21), Scarlett_O(22) , Scarlett (31)
BerenCamlost - 1 - Jimryan1(16) , stonecutter129(17)
stonecutter129 - 0 - PaperF(8) , AlwaysIdle(11 ), Scarlett_O(26)
Scarlett_O - 0 - ortho_(13)
ortho_ - 0 - PaperF(1) , Vanderscamp(10)
PaperF - 0 - Jimryan1(5) , stonecutter129(7) , BerenCamlost(14)
Jimryan1 - 0 - ortho_(19)
I'm here !
Stone

AlwaysIdle wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:

I'm curious why no one is on Beren as well, if we're throwing out AFKs.


Do you think Beren is evil?


I don't know, but everyone is throwing out AFKs and not throwing his name out there.

stonecutter129 wrote:

I'm curious why no one is on Beren as well, if we're throwing out AFKs.


Also, would love to hear why you think he's evil though.
Sirius Black

Vanderscamp wrote:

[vote Floofies]

Thoughts on the game?


Tally

Player (13/15) - # - Voted by

Floofies - 5 - ortho_ (30), Paper (34), Always (35), Scarlett (36), Vanders (37)
janiera - 2 - FaleohFang(4) , Floofies(6), Amekins(24), Scarlett (33)
FaleohFang - 2 - BlackSheep(15), BerenCamlost(20)
Vanderscamp - 2 - ortho_(9) , FaleohFang(18), janiera(25), PaperF(28)
AlwaysIdle - 1 - ortho_(23 ), Jimryan1(27), Scarlett (29) , Paper (32)
BerenCamlost - 1 - Jimryan1(16) , stonecutter129(17)
Amekins - 0 - janiera(2) , FaleohFang(3) , Vanderscamp(12) , Vanderscamp(21) , Scarlett_O(22) , Scarlett (31)
stonecutter129 - 0 - PaperF(8) , AlwaysIdle(11 ), Scarlett_O(26)
Scarlett_O - 0 - ortho_(13)
ortho_ - 0 - PaperF(1) , Vanderscamp(10)
PaperF - 0 - Jimryan1(5) , stonecutter129(7) , BerenCamlost(14)
Jimryan1 - 0 - ortho_(19)
Paper Luis

AlwaysIdle wrote:

[vote floofies]
Why are you voting Floofies?
Lisa

RoyalApe wrote:

ortho_ wrote:

AlwaysIdle wrote:

Are we still allowed to vote?


Deadline is 6:15 BGG.


This is correct, extended Dusk due to cassy issues.


Thanks
So many floof votes. Yikes
Alabaster
Fwiw I don't plan on shooting tonight.

In case I do actually die in the night, if there's a seer tomorrow with two living checks or a confirmed wolf, you should STRONGLY consider sharing that information.
Checking me to try to confirm your information is not a great strategy IMO.
The Floof Meister
Leaning good
Floofies
stonecutter129 - I really like the Jerival post and what he's chosen to comment on, seems to be investigating
ortho_
PaperF
janiera - I like her tone, she feels different than the evil!Jan I've seen in the past
Scarlett_O
Jimryan1

Neutral - no read one way or the other or ???
Vanderscamp - wasn't reading him well earlier but am willing to see if his claim is legit so I'll leave that alone for now
FaleohFang
BlackSheep
BerenCamlost

Leaning evil
AlwaysIdle - I think she said she would voice her thoughts but hasn't followed up on that, feels UTR (as in, she isn't bringing much attention to herself)
Amekins - I have a hard time telling the difference between good!Ame and evil!Ame but something feels off here, gut feeling

Amekins wrote:

So many floof votes. Yikes


Who would be your #1 lynch today?
Lisa

stonecutter129 wrote:

AlwaysIdle wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:

I'm curious why no one is on Beren as well, if we're throwing out AFKs.


Do you think Beren is evil?


I don't know, but everyone is throwing out AFKs and not throwing his name out there.


Ah, I think the issue here is that I don't know what an AFK is
The Floof Meister
Uh. I can claim if you want...?
Alabaster
Where are the floofies reads?
Patrick Hill

stonecutter129 wrote:

AlwaysIdle wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:

I'm curious why no one is on Beren as well, if we're throwing out AFKs.


Do you think Beren is evil?


I don't know, but everyone is throwing out AFKs and not throwing his name out there.


Sorry Stone. A lot of these players saw me active in Cats and it took up a lot of my time. Now I can devote that time to this game.

[Vote Floofies] for a Vanders save is what I've been lead to believe in my quick reading.
Stone

Scarlett_O wrote:

stonecutter129 wrote:

I'm curious why no one is on Beren as well, if we're throwing out AFKs.


Also, would love to hear why you think he's evil though.


I don't think he is evil, but I want a conversation.
Jim Ryan

Floofies wrote:

Uh. I can claim if you want...?


claim.

Floofies is happening too easy.

[vote Jan]
Lisa

PaperF wrote:

AlwaysIdle wrote:

[vote floofies]
Why are you voting Floofies?


She's been UTR up until now, why are you voting her?
[vote faleoh]
Paper Luis

Floofies wrote:

Uh. I can claim if you want...?
Claim, please.
Sirius Black

BerenCamlost wrote:


Sorry Stone. A lot of these players saw me active in Cats and it took up a lot of my time. Now I can devote that time to this game.

[Vote Floofies] for a Vanders save is what I've been lead to believe in my quick reading.


Tally

Player (13/15) - # - Voted by

Floofies - 6 - ortho_ (30), Paper (34), Always (35), Scarlett (36), Vanders (37), Beren (38)
janiera - 2 - FaleohFang(4) , Floofies(6), Amekins(24), Scarlett (33)
Vanderscamp - 2 - ortho_(9) , FaleohFang(18), janiera(25), PaperF(28)
FaleohFang - 1 - BlackSheep(15), BerenCamlost(20)
AlwaysIdle - 1 - ortho_(23 ), Jimryan1(27), Scarlett (29) , Paper (32)
BerenCamlost - 1 - Jimryan1(16) , stonecutter129(17)
Amekins - 0 - janiera(2) , FaleohFang(3) , Vanderscamp(12) , Vanderscamp(21) , Scarlett_O(22) , Scarlett (31)
stonecutter129 - 0 - PaperF(8) , AlwaysIdle(11 ), Scarlett_O(26)
Scarlett_O - 0 - ortho_(13)
ortho_ - 0 - PaperF(1) , Vanderscamp(10)
PaperF - 0 - Jimryan1(5) , stonecutter129(7) , BerenCamlost(14)
Jimryan1 - 0 - ortho_(19)
Stone

BerenCamlost wrote: